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22-08-2020, 05:06 PM
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Starter Motor
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Ok.. So, thanks to all who have helped me understand the Serial vs VIN number difference..
Now, I am trying to understand and find what the codes mean Was told its OFF WHITE (Cream) ? Was told its 4.1.. with GAS.. added or factory, not sure ? Was told its 3 speed COLUMN AUTO... correct Was told its BROWN TRIM... correct So.. armed with a photo of the compliance plate and Google.. I found NOTHING Nothing matched up, was more centred on XD/XE.. Some info just was just missing altogether.. So hoping someone can clear it up for me here...please Please reads as follows: Prefix Body: JG42GJ Serial No: 21580 C Model: 45481 Engine: L Trans: R Trim: F1 Paint: HP Seats: 3 Build: May 86 GMV: 2230 Seems to be a lot of conflicting codes in dates and models, that I can't decipher Hopefully you can Thanks in advance Mark |
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22-08-2020, 05:33 PM
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heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
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22-08-2020, 05:39 PM
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FG XR6 Ute & Sedan
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Se https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.a...identification and http://www.xfalcon.com/forums/index....n-plate-codes/
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22-08-2020, 05:51 PM
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heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
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22-08-2020, 05:52 PM
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Starter Motor
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Thanks AUSSIEBLUE, I have seen this chart, but it didn't reflect the vehicle
I have.. it seems to have limited info as I can't find the PAINT CODE "HP" nor its TRIM CODE F1..Reason being, I might want to replace some trim parts and respray it to original colour.. I noticed "L" for an engine code, but that's depicted on an XE model, keeping in mind, I have an XF.. that's why it concussing for me, unless there's an OVER LAP in models ?? roKWiz, you seemed to have more progress than I will ever be able too Thank you all.. If anyone else has more info, would be appreciated Mark |
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22-08-2020, 06:28 PM
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Engine: L
https://fordforums.com.au/showpost.p...2&postcount=30 Quote:
http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...?articleid=723 BW-40 Trim: F1 http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...p?articleid=12 XF F1 Fawn Birds Foot Velour (Ghia) Paint: HP http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...hp?articleid=6 sorry cant find anything matching a HP paint code may be something else looking similar to HP bit of other info http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...?articleid=716
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yes still (as money n time permit) doing the rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually just remember don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !! |
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22-08-2020, 06:38 PM
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oh and codes mean little if some ones changed something in its 34 years of life
motor swap for a 4.1 or other interior swap out (seats) or even a repaint
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yes still (as money n time permit) doing the rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually just remember don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !! |
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22-08-2020, 06:54 PM
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Starter Motor
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Just a quick update..
Looking at the GAS plate, it seems to have a different engine installed Engine No. is different to that of the chassis number.. Not sure if that is standard ? So there is no confusion, I'll add the photos of all 3 plates.. Makes an interesting fact finding mission to those who are interested If I had the knowledge and strength I'd try to continue , but just out of hospital and concentration isn't my best friend atm Here's hoping for a good outcome so I know what I have.. Thanks Mark |
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22-08-2020, 07:20 PM
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FG XR6 Ute & Sedan
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Here a copy of the Microfiche parts catalog pages but it won't resolve the paint code question. They are a bit hard to read due to the limits on upload sizes so if you PM a email address I will send you easier to read versions.
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22-08-2020, 07:28 PM
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This says https://www.touchuppaints.com.au/For...Paint-2789.htm HP is "Hi Performance White" but that colour was not released until 2005.
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regards Blue Last edited by aussiblue; 22-08-2020 at 07:35 PM. |
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22-08-2020, 07:34 PM
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oh forgot to add that the 86 XF didnt come with factory gas
youd need to confirm the engine number on the engine , as the gas tank may have come from another vehicle , but if the motors been changed and then gas n tank fitted then according to that engine number the motor came from J = Australia L = Broadmeadows and i guess 44 = Falcon GLS Ute. (JH/JG build). but as it says JH/JG build from id guess a June 1990 vehicle the HP colour still has me stumped unless it was a custom factory order colour
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yes still (as money n time permit) doing the rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually just remember don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !! |
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22-08-2020, 11:41 PM
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Hi Guys. I don't really want to steal the thread, but I have several questions, mainly relating to that engine code list.
In the XT section the list shows codes T & Y for the 302 2V & 302 4V (GT) respectively, but most manuals show Y & W for these 2 engines. Where are the engine codes for XW & XY ? In XA/XB it lists T as the GT HO engine. AFAIK T was for the 'normal' GT & code H was used for the XA GT HO (even though only 1 car was built). Also in XA/XB it lists K as a 351 4V, but shouldn't that be a 351 2V ? For XC it lists the 4.1 lo-comp 6-cyl as code B, but the factory workshop manual has to as code J. The biggest confusion exists in XF (the subject of this thread). The list shows: XF B 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC XF E 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC XF L 3.3 ALLOY HEAD MC - NSW XF V 3.3 ALLOY HEAD HC ex NSW XF X 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - NSW XF W 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC ex NSW XF Y 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - EFI XF T 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC - EFI XF N 4.1 ALLOY HEAD HC 2V This seems to follow the factory parts catalogue, except that code N is not mentioned there. The XF factory workshop manual is totally different. It lists: 84/85 ADR27B (Leaded) 3.3 litre (Carby) - M 4.1 litre (Carby) - G 4.1 EFI - Y See post #3 (above) Unleaded petrol upgrade 86/88 ADR37 (Unleaded) 3.3 litre (Carby) - B 4.1 litre (Carby) - E 4.1 EFI - T Can anybody clear this up ? Dr Terry Last edited by Dr Terry; 22-08-2020 at 11:49 PM. |
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23-08-2020, 08:47 AM
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This is my data plate NSW first sold, Feb 93 4.1 unleaded carby, one of the last carby cars built by Ford Aust.  While we are on it anyone know my trim code G1 edit... I'll add this emission sticker 
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23-08-2020, 10:57 AM
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One thing though the code Ns that I've seen were all on 1991 utes & vans. Maybe Ford issued a different code just for those. In those late cars the 4.1 carby was those only engine available. The 3.3 was no more & EFI was never fitted to utes or vans. Dr Terry |
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23-08-2020, 11:51 AM
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and yours is a 93 but still falls in to the ute van area is still suggest maybe cross referencing from the others from same year from the EB/ED section http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...p?articleid=13 there are a few G1's for 93 but all are basically Slate Velour
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yes still (as money n time permit) doing the rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually just remember don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !! |
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23-08-2020, 12:41 PM
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23-08-2020, 02:51 PM
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in terms of the HP colour code one can't help thinking that as it is a panel van it might be some corporate livery colour for some company or organisation that ordered a fleet of vans and therefore was able to have them in their corporate colour and the HP is the company's or organisation's initials (e.g Hilton Plumbing, Hewlett Packard, Hostralia Post) . Do you know who/what the original registered owner was?
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23-08-2020, 05:00 PM
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23-08-2020, 08:40 PM
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yes still (as money n time permit) doing the rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually just remember don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !! |
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