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Old 03-05-2013, 10:24 PM   #1
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Default Streetfighter Oil Breathers

Over the last 2 years and after removing countless Coyote plenum covers we have noticed oil build up in the manifold and plenum areas.
This oil contaminates the incoming air bringing oil into the combustion chamber.
The results of this are oil usage and contaminated air/fuel mixtures.

If intercooled this oil builds up around the heat exchanger fins and tanks causing less cooling efficiency for the incoming air. On a supercharged engine this is especially important.

This need led KPM to engineer and manufacture oil and air separators.
The separators are easily fitted in line with the engine breathing system.
The oil is caught in the separator filters rather than contaminating intercooler and air fuel mixture with unwanted oil.
When the engine is not running the oil caught in the filters drains back down into the sump rather than the manifold.
This keeps the intake and intercooler clean and stops the oil burning through the engine.
Less oil usage and the plenum and intercooler is always clean.

Not only do they serve a purpose but they enhance the look of your engine bay with a racey OEM style finish.

We have manufactured our Streetfighter breathers out of billet aluminium and utilise high quality washable filters to ensure life time reliability. All Australian made.



The Streetfighter breathers are sold as a pair and will be ready for release next week.

Streetfighter Oil Breathers kit Price $395

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Old 04-05-2013, 08:46 PM   #2
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Any offerings for the 5.4?
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No sorry. Herrod may be able to help out.
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I have question on this product. Are they a complete clip in fitting and I don't need to modify any existing hardware whatsoever?

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Yes direct OEM style clip on fitting.
Only need to easily re-route / modify the breather tube itself.

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Default Re: Streetfighter Oil Breathers

Fitted my breathers this morning and it's a fairly straight forward job. I think there may be a slight difference between the FG GT and the FGX XR8 however. Had to trim 10 mm from the supplied joining pipe on the LH bank where it connects to the short section entering the air intake spigot for better alignment. Cheers Chris.
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Has there been a change FG to FGX with breather lines or snorkel dimensions?


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as per other thread please answer all said questions reguarding kpm products.

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For the purpose of the thread Id just love to know the scientific explanation as to how the oil drains back? And how the separator actually seals against the PCV fitting to prevent oil going down between it and the neck of the separator like mine have?

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And the many customers with the old components been upgraded to the new ones?

As I mentioned Nick had a very close call

Also have you revised the systems capability down from your 700-750rwkw claim?

What of the supplied Edelbrock regulator that was having issues on Jims?... As we have since found out it's flow rating is 180gph and not quite as high as 2 x 460's at the base fuel pressure rating



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Ok, I will answer all questions in between our daily work routine.
I will start with as many as I can now.

"For the purpose of the thread Id just love to know the scientific explanation as to how the oil drains back? And how the separator actually seals against the PCV fitting to prevent oil going down between it and the neck of the separator like mine have?"

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A per the pic below the breathers have always been designed to catch and either return oil from the filter element back down into the PCV or act as a catch can for heavier breathing cars without the return of oil down the PCV.

1) To act as a oil return system the valve is simply removed from the original PCV and oil caught in the filter returns naturally down the filter element into the PCV . To avoid built up and flooding this filter needs to be serviced approx every 7500 or according to engine breathing.
Extended use on heavily breathing engines may flood the canister if not serviced.

2) To act as a catch can the PCV is left with the valve in it and the catch can acts as a reservoir for excess oil. Due to the separator holding approx 200ml of oil, engines with excessive breathing need to service this style more frequently.

The nitrle o ring acts as a perfect seal on the PCV when installed correctly . We have had several instances of the o ring not coping with overfilled canisters , that are generally contaminated with blow by fuel in the oil. This creates excessive pressure build up against the PCV valve on the exit side of the canister.
We do not recommend fuel breathing engines to use a separator style canister and rather a dedicated catch can.

Due to more and more instances of vehicles breathing heavier amounts of oil and flooding the canister, due to either lack of servicing or unsuitable intervals between servicing, we have in prototype a heavy usage return filter that will be for the purpose of the thread in all canisters once finalized and tested
pictured.
We have now decided to change filter separator style due to petrol contaminating the foam style UNI filter. We are currently looking at suitable alternatives that both allow the engine to breath and also separate oil and fuel from air correctly.





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The breather filters were said not to require servicing as they returned oil. Based on this post, it appears they do require servicing. How frequently?

This is of interest to me as I have a stock Miami ('15 FGX) and while it's only got 4265km (filters on in 1st 2500km) the aim is to keep the intake plenum clean. The choice of KPM over Herrod was the lack of servicing said to be required with the KPM product. What is needed now in your estimation?
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The breather filters were said not to require servicing as they returned oil. Based on this post, it appears they do require servicing. How frequently?

This is of interest to me as I have a stock Miami ('15 FGX) and while it's only got 4265km (filters on in 1st 2500km) the aim is to keep the intake plenum clean. The choice of KPM over Herrod was the lack of servicing said to be required with the KPM product. What is needed now in your estimation?
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Servicing has always been required, that is why we have a cleanable/replaceable filter installed.
I do understand however the annoyance of more regular servicing should it need to be done more often as is often becoming the case.

Keep an eye out for our new returnable design filter once finalized.
I will be happy to supply at no cost existing customers that require increased oil return.
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Nice work Dave, the revised design looks to address a few issues I have seen with mine.

Fantastic that you're upgrading existing Customers with the new updated design at no cost. Great to see. It's this continual improvement and evolution of products that us consumers love to see. Making it retrospective too, is just fantastic.
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Thank you Jim

Forums are a great tool for discussing.
However as a business I always ask to be contacted as most concerns are addressed accurately, promptly and efficiently when I have someone contact us.
Quite often we even re-develop if the need arises.

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when my breathers were fitted almost 12 months ago, was told that as long as service with main service will be ok. Which is 15,000km intervals. Are you now recommending 7500km? Also what should I use to clean the filter? FYI prev ones had disintegrated when I opened the passenger side at 10,000km with vis able oil buildup. Drivers side was intact, brittle but no visible oil.
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when my breathers were fitted almost 12 months ago, was told that as long as service with main service will be ok. Which is 15,000km intervals. Are you now recommending 7500km? Also what should I use to clean the filter? FYI prev ones had disintegrated when I opened the passenger side at 10,000km with vis able oil buildup. Drivers side was intact, brittle but no visible oil.
We carry out engine oil servicing every 7,500,
I would suggest then servicing your filter at this interval if you service your car every 15k.
Use a de-greaser or kerosene type solvent. Rinse with water and ensure you blow them out and dry thoroughly.
If they require replacement, they are reasonably inexpensive.
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We carry out engine oil servicing every 7,500,
I would suggest then servicing your filter at this interval if you service your car every 15k.
Use a de-greaser or kerosene type solvent. Rinse with water and ensure you blow them out and dry thoroughly.
If they require replacement, they are reasonably inexpensive.
Too easy, thank you for prompt reply and info. Ps I'm still a happy customer!
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I'd have to say I've had no probs with my breathers on my little putta-bomb, I haven't even really looked at them much at all, I would use them again if I have a chance
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I'd have to say I've had no probs with my breathers on my little putta-bomb, I haven't even really looked at them much at all, I would use them again if I have a chance
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I checked out my breathers on the weekend and couldn't see any everything looked good.
But i must admit the possibilty that my 1500hp fuel system electirics could possibly melt and cause possible engine failure does concern me some what.
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How do you stop it from rubbing on the airbox as mine does?
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How do you stop it from rubbing on the airbox as mine does?
I gently moulded mine with a heat gun and gentle pressure from a 1" socket on extension that was also warmed a little. OEM finish and no abrasion.
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There wasn't any mention of servicing the breathers with the documentation that came with them or on the website for the product (apart from saying there's washable filters).

Could you please post a howto or something similar on what steps KPM recommends to keep the breathers in optimal working order? Something with recommended interval, method of servicing, equipment needed etc.

Probably my own naivete, but I had no idea I should be pulling these apart and cleaning an element inside them when I change my oil. If it wasn't for this discussion I would probably have never considered it so please keep up the engagement with customers on forums!
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There wasn't any mention of servicing the breathers with the documentation that came with them or on the website for the product (apart from saying there's washable filters).

Could you please post a howto or something similar on what steps KPM recommends to keep the breathers in optimal working order? Something with recommended interval, method of servicing, equipment needed etc.

Probably my own naivete, but I had no idea I should be pulling these apart and cleaning an element inside them when I change my oil. If it wasn't for this discussion I would probably have never considered it so please keep up the engagement with customers on forums!
I will ceratinly do so.
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Is there an upgrade option for those who have the MKI kit?

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How many km before a filter change on these? Spirited but non-track use.
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I would check and clean the filters every vehicle service to start to get an idea on how much your engine breathes.
From there you will start to get an idea of how often servicing is required.

We normally see service to service as no problem.
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So of we order a set now are we guaranteed to get the mk2 style or is there still stock of the mk 1
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:54 PM   #30
PaulXR50
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Default Re: Streetfighter Oil Breathers

Can anyone tell me how many ks travelled before you would expect to see some oil in the oil breathers or the filter.

I disconnected / dismantled the driver's side yesterday and found nothing in there & the filter had no evidence of oil either.

Breathers were installed by mechanic & done correctly as there is no leaking etc.

(i read somewhere the driver's side seems to get more than the passenger side - may have even been in this thread).

Thanks.
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