Bob Lutz - ":Everyone will have 5 years to get their car off the road or sell it for scrap.”

[aussiblue]

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...-times-goodbye

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[foxtrot3]

Hi. 5 years FROM when driverless cars are becoming common............. Make it 55 years. Cheers MD

[aussiblue]

Bob says "The era of the human-driven automobile, its repair facilities, its dealerships, the media surrounding it — all will be gone in 20 years."

[OzJavelin]

Isn't he the same guy that thought the Americans would love a Holden Monaro rebadged as a Pontiac GTO?

[aussiblue]

Isn't he the same guy that thought the Americans would love a Holden Monaro rebadged as a Pontiac GTO?

Yup; and was he so wrong?

[OzJavelin]

It's an impersonal, bleak interpretation of a future where individual freedoms have been crushed ... I look forward to seeing it on NetFlix ...

[solarite_guy]

It appears to me, the panacea of the do gooder day dreamers is putting everyone out of work.

What's that saying? Rage against the machine.

[aussiblue]

Remember Bob is also a "petrol head"; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lutz_(businessman)

Lutz is known as a collector of classic automobiles and military jets. Among other aircraft, he owns and pilots an Aero L-39 Albatros (an advanced Czechoslovakian jet fighter trainer) and an MD-500 helicopter. Further, he maintains a collection of motorcycles that include a Suzuki Hayabusa, a BMW K1200RS, a BMW K1200S, a BMW R1100S, a BMW K-1 and a BMW HP2 Sport.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

Remember Bob is also a "petrol head"; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lutz_(businessman)

Right and I think Lutz is attempting to wake folks up to a path being taken.

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...-times-goodbye

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Bloke's menopausal....

[GO FURTHER]

Son to dad: "Dad... What should I do for a living when I grow up?"

Dad:... "Scrap Merchant son... Going to be big business!"

[Sprintey]

"Then, as you approach your exit, your module will enter deceleration lanes, exit and go to your final destination. You will be billed for the transportation. You will enter your credit card number or your thumbprint or whatever it will be then. The module will take off and go to its collection point, ready for the next person to call.
Most of these standardized modules will be purchased and owned by the Ubers and Lyfts and God knows what other companies that will enter the transportation business in the future."




It's going to be a golden age for throwing up in vehicles, then exiting and daintily walking away with nary a care in the world.

[simon varley]

Bob who?

[Maka]

While the world is in chaos atm, a chirpy vision of the future is offered...Welcome to the brave new world, dont think, just accept it ok lol!

Umm, imo wont happen unless something else is the precursor..

cheers, Maka

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by Maka

Umm, imo wont happen unless something else is the precursor..

I hate to imagine what that precursor might be.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

I hate to imagine what that precursor might be.

What was the precursor that took us from the horse and cart to the automobile?

It's called progress... For better or worse.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

What was the precursor that took us from the horse and cart to the automobile?

It's called progress... For better or worse.

I don't know if that is a good analogy.

I think of both of those modes of transportation being increasing forms of independence and freedom.

What I see portrayed here is a path towards the borg collective. This is a paradigm change. We have seen encroachments to independence over the years, but in all honesty, I had very similar thoughts as mentioned by Maka about Brave New World and other Sci-Fi novels I read in younger years. I don't have a good feeling about relinquishing myself to big brother.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

What I see portrayed here is a path towards the borg collective. This is a paradigm change. We have seen encroachments to independence over the years, but in all honesty, I had very similar thoughts as mentioned by Maka about Brave New World and other Sci-Fi novels I read in younger years. I don't have a good feeling about relinquishing myself to big brother.

I hear what you are saying.

Unfortunately though, most of us have already relinquished ourselves to big brother in one way or another.

... Social Media, The Internet and IP tracking, Mobile phone tracking, spending patterns on our credit cards, city surveillance cameras, and the list goes on.

The government and big corporations know more about you than your parents these days.

[uniacidz]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

I hear what you are saying.

Unfortunately though, most of us have already relinquished ourselves to big brother in one way or another.

... Social Media, The Internet and IP tracking, Mobile phone tracking, spending patterns on our credit cards, city surveillance cameras, and the list goes on.

The government and big corporations know more about you than your parents these days.

Not me man, i have a tin foil hat and run electified copper in my roof

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

I hear what you are saying.

Unfortunately though, most of us have already relinquished ourselves to big brother in one way or another.

... Social Media, The Internet and IP tracking, Mobile phone tracking, spending patterns on our credit cards, city surveillance cameras, and the list goes on.

The government and big corporations know more about you than your parents these days.

There is a lot of truth to what you are saying. Compounding the situation, I think many of the younger generations do not really understand what privacy or privacy data is and as they have and will become leaders will continue to give away more privacy.

Yet what Lutz portrayed is not only greater social constraints but physical restraints. Time will tell.

[BENT_8]

I'll say it again, Meet George Jetson...

It's only a matter of time, albeit without the outer space backdrop, these intentions have been in the planning for decades and drip fed to us through many different mediums if you care to take notice.

When Maxwell smart whipped off his shoe and made a phone call in the sixties, who'd have thought mobile communication technology like that would have been in the palm of every man, woman and child's hand within 30yrs, I didn't, but it was there for all to see if you truly considered it possible and now you're considered out of touch if you cant google whatever you want to know from it, it's gone well beyond the simple phone call.

[TICKFORD220]

Just drop all those worthless gtho phase 3s off at my house ill dispose of them

[cheap]

I’ll add his prediction to the thousands of other flat out wrong predictions made in modern times. 640K of memory ought to be enough for anybody, weapons of mass destruction...

[aussiblue]

Just drop all those worthless gtho phase 3s off at my house ill dispose of them

Sssh; you'll give the game away; Bob and I are conspiring to create a super-car price crash.

I wonder what the solution will be for those who tow trailers. Will they have 'modules' for horses that can be called upon with the same short notice as a module for people? How will it handle the deceleration given that the cargo can't be strapped in?

Originally Posted by Sprintey

It's going to be a golden age for throwing up in vehicles, then exiting and daintily walking away with nary a care in the world.

If they can make a road network that is 100% automated, I am confident they can include sensors in the modules that detect the presence of biofluids within the module. I'd gather those sensors will then tell local cleanup crews and/or local police/yadda yadda

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

I don't know if that is a good analogy.

I think of both of those modes of transportation being increasing forms of independence and freedom.

What I see portrayed here is a path towards the borg collective. This is a paradigm change. We have seen encroachments to independence over the years, but in all honesty, I had very similar thoughts as mentioned by Maka about Brave New World and other Sci-Fi novels I read in younger years. I don't have a good feeling about relinquishing myself to big brother.

If seven of nine is there sign me up for the collective!

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...-times-goodbye

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Fruitcake,

Good luck with that in rural Australia, or even the mid west USA

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

If seven of nine is there sign me up for the collective!

Okay, you can go with 7 of 9. I'm with Number 6.

[Bossxr8]

Maybe in 50 years time. No way it will be 5, 10 or even 20. Look how shabby our public transport infastructure is. Does anyone seriously think our roads will ever be good enough for this. To work properly the roads will more than likely be need to be designed from scratch to suit.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Maybe in 50 years time. No way it will be 5, 10 or even 20. Look how shabby our public transport infastructure is. Does anyone seriously think our roads will ever be good enough for this. To work properly the roads will more than likely be need to be designed from scratch to suit.

Driverless cars are set to make their way on to Victorian roads next year, with the Andrews Government to introduce new laws allowing for trials of autonomous vehicles.

Cabinet yesterday ticked off on the changes to the Road Safety Act and the legislation will be tabled in Parliament this week.

News article:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/hu...13-gzkjiq.html