VFACTS August 2018 - Page 2

Sprint XR8 · 05-09-2018, 07:40 PM

Ford - August 2018

Ford EcoSport 84
Ford Escape 403
Ford Everest 492
Ford Fiesta 18
Ford Focus 358
Ford Mondeo 128
Ford Mustang 736
Ford Ranger 4X2 432
Ford Ranger 4X4 3,083
Ford Transit Custom 178
Ford Transit Heavy 49

jpd80 · 05-09-2018, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Because us stupid Aussies pay the ridiculous prices they ask.

Once upon a time, utes were reserved for tradesmen, people with a load to shift like dirt bikes for example, or for off-road enthusiasts. Now, they’re the weapon of choice to take the kids to soccer training, and the biggest load the tray sees is the weekly groceries, with not a speck of dirt anywhere near the all terrain tyres.

They are a vehicle which is jack of all trades but master of none, yet we will pay $60k for one.

Not surprisingly, F150, Silverado 1500 and Ram1500 are the same,
mostly crew cabs and mostly shopping trolleys during the week...

Syndrome · 05-09-2018, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprint XR8

Ford - August 2018

Ford EcoSport 84
Ford Escape 403
Ford Everest 492
Ford Fiesta 18
Ford Focus 358
Ford Mondeo 128
Ford Mustang 736
Ford Ranger 4X2 432
Ford Ranger 4X4 3,083
Ford Transit Custom 178
Ford Transit Heavy 49

Do you have General Motors sales figures?

Sprint XR8 · 05-09-2018, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

Do you have General Motors sales figures?

Holden - August 2018

Holden Astra 571
Holden Barina 229
Holden Captiva 266
Holden Colorado 4X2 170
Holden Colorado 4X4 1,269
Holden Commodore 682
Holden Equinox 407
Holden Spark 11
Holden Trailblazer 197
Holden Trax 550
Holden Utility 4X2 4

Syndrome · 05-09-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprint XR8

Holden - August 2018

Holden Commodore 682

How many were VFs?

**Fordman1** · 05-09-2018, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprint XR8

Holden - August 2018

Holden Astra 571
Holden Barina 229
Holden Captiva 266
Holden Colorado 4X2 170
Holden Colorado 4X4 1,269
Holden Commodore 682
Holden Equinox 407
Holden Spark 11
Holden Trailblazer 197
Holden Trax 550
Holden Utility 4X2 4

Mustang outsells Commodore again, surprise.

My old mate will dispute and come up with why Commodore sales will rise to a few thousand.

Dead brand Holden.

vztrt · 05-09-2018, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Bet you're thinking why didn't I get that Territory sooner, there's no way I'd go back to a sedan

Have both and I'll jump in a falcon over a Terri any day..and the Terri is a great car.

But is take my old fg2 ute over both. Still regret getting rid of it.

Vesper Martini · 06-09-2018, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Have both and I'll jump in a falcon over a Terri any day..and the Terri is a great car.

But is take my old fg2 ute over both. Still regret getting rid of it.

Put 20" wheels & 275 Tyres on your Terri and you may change you mind.
it changes the dynamics significantly - should have been a factory option.

Then again there are a lot of should of could of's with Ford I guess they cant please everyone

Sprintey · 06-09-2018, 02:42 PM

Ford Fiesta 18
Ford Focus 358
Ford Mondeo 128

Yikes

What % of Fiesta and Focus were the truly decent sports models?

Bossxr8 · 06-09-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprint XR8

Holden - August 2018

Holden Astra 571
Holden Barina 229
Holden Captiva 266
Holden Colorado 4X2 170
Holden Colorado 4X4 1,269
Holden Commodore 682
Holden Equinox 407
Holden Spark 11
Holden Trailblazer 197
Holden Trax 550
Holden Utility 4X2 4

Even Colorado had a poor month, and that's the one they are relying on to get sales. The whole brand is just poison.

Equinox bombed big time too. Holden were predicting over 1000 sales a month and it hasn't even got within half that.

Bossxr8 · 06-09-2018, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

Ford Fiesta 18
Ford Focus 358
Ford Mondeo 128

Yikes

What % of Fiesta and Focus were the truly decent sports models?

I doubt Ford are even bringing in any Fiesta's now. Just running out whatever dealer stock they have cause it isn't getting replaced, except for the ST which is arriving early next year.

Focus is in run out too, new model is due November.

Mondeo is getting a facelift next year but medium sedans are being slaughtered everywhere across all manufacturers. Even Camry is 50% down.

arronm · 06-09-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Like calling people losers for their choice of car??

Maybe poor choice of words, replace losers with SHEEP...

**Fordman1** · 06-09-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by arronm

Maybe poor choice of words, replace losers with SHEEP...

I agree people should be hero’s like you - not sheep.

BENT_8 · 06-09-2018, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

Dead brand Holden.

Lol, Ford sold 1600 more units than Holden yet sold 2000 more Rangers than Colorado.

Holden might be a dead brand but Ford isnt far behind, its basically the Ranger Motor Company now in Australia.

arronm · 06-09-2018, 07:17 PM

Hey, I am Australian and buy Australian cars. If more people did we may still have a car industry.

prydey · 06-09-2018, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by arronm

Hey, I am Australian and buy Australian cars. If more people did we may still have a car industry.

Don't be naive...

Sprintey · 07-09-2018, 12:37 AM

There's truth in what arronm says. And economic nationalism is rising world wide, especially Western nations. Keeping importation fully open to a group of mercantilists who manipulated everything from their currency to environmental and labour laws in order to gain market share, was not smart. A pity we lost our car industry before the pendulum has begun to swing back.

prydey · 07-09-2018, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

A pity we lost our car industry before the pendulum has begun to swing back.

The auto industry had been on life support at least 10years before it finally shut. Very little to do with how many were bought. Scales of economy, govt policy, trade agreements, and not to mention the costs involved in retooling much of our factories here....

arronm · 07-09-2018, 03:22 AM

Its the population. Take a look around. Thats why Australian cars dont sell.

jpd80 · 07-09-2018, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

The auto industry had been on life support at least 10years before it finally shut. Very little to do with how many were bought. Scales of economy, govt policy, trade agreements, and not to mention the costs involved in retooling much of our factories here....

not to mention that when given the choice, the Australian market
chose just about everything else but traditional Aussie large cars.

Falcon and Commodore were a paradox of opposites,
contracting from a broad range of models that suited many buyers,
the more extreme they were made to appease their enthusiasts,
the fewer they actually sold..

Dr Smith · 07-09-2018, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

not to mention that when given the choice, the Australian market
chose just about everything else but traditional Aussie large cars.

Falcon and Commodore were a paradox of opposites,
contracting from a broad range of models that suited many buyers,
the more extreme they were made to appease their enthusiasts,
the fewer they actually sold..

Add the fact that no individual vehicle sold in Australia today sells more then 4000+ units per month at best. No where near enough for any manufacturer building here and selling predominantly here to survive with products selling at mainstream prices. If Toyota couldn't make the "numbers" work with a predominantly export skewed sales mix no one else was going to either.

jpd80 · 07-09-2018, 02:08 PM

Th issue is borne out of selfishness of Asia as a regional block
putting up import barriers while gleefully accepting all our
manufacturing jobs and value adding for themselves

Syndrome · 07-09-2018, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by arronm

Its the population. Take a look around. Thats why Australian cars dont sell.

Yes most of the new Australians which arrived in the last decade drive Toyotas.

**Fordman1** · 07-09-2018, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

Yes most of the new Australians which arrived in the last decade drive Toyotas.

So what are you saying, really saying ?

Syndrome · 07-09-2018, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

So what are you saying, really saying ?

They don't buy Falcons or Commodores.

**Fordman1** · 07-09-2018, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

They don't buy Falcons or Commodores.

Who ?

Immigrants ?

Vs non immigrants ?

**russellw** · 08-09-2018, 09:51 AM

The graphical stats for August have been uploaded to the Tech portal now.

Cheers
Russ

Dr Smith · 08-09-2018, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sprint XR8

Ford - August 2018

Ford EcoSport 84
Ford Escape 403
Ford Everest 492
Ford Fiesta 18
Ford Focus 358
Ford Mondeo 128
Ford Mustang 736
Ford Ranger 4X2 432
Ford Ranger 4X4 3,083
Ford Transit Custom 178
Ford Transit Heavy 49

Finally Transit Custom starting to climb...god forbid they bring in a Crewvan, a higher spec version, a 125kW Custom option...increase factory approved options.
1.Toyota HiAce: 517
2.Hyundai iLoad: 329,
3.Ford Transit Custom: 178