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Old 21-06-2017, 10:23 PM   #31
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Going by your "edit" after my post, maybe anger management forum would suit better?
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Old 21-06-2017, 10:26 PM   #32
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Going by your "edit" after my post, maybe anger management forum would suit better?
I agree. I'll leave this forum and leave you rednecks to your sports and alcohol and wife beating.

After all we wouldn't want logic or common sense or the law to get in the way of a good time.
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I see theres a video of him doing the exact same thing in NEW YORK! I bet they didnt mind one bit. Why cant we just look the other way sometimes?
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I've long thought you should leave prosecution for breaking the law to the courts. I've never understood why a sporting body feels it has the right to hand out an additional punishment. If that's fair, why can't the courts step in whenever a law is broken on the sporting field? Imagine brawling footballers being brought up on charges of assault, or race drivers being charged with dangerous/negligent driving.
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Old 22-06-2017, 07:28 AM   #36
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why can't the courts step in whenever a law is broken on the sporting field?
that has been done in Victoria, footballers were charged by police after an incident on the footy field
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Old 22-06-2017, 01:40 PM   #37
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CAMS have done what was needed and I totally agree.

Whilst this was not a CAMS event, actions outside can often come back and believe it or not CAMS put safety first and foremost.

Behavior like this in a public space without any emergency plan is out-right stupid and Robbie would know this, he took the risks on his own shoulders and now he has to accept the consequences. Like many people today do their best to avoid!
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Old 22-06-2017, 03:23 PM   #38
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I don't condone what Robbie has done here, it was stupid, but what about the 'security guards' ? He said that he had asked them if he "could do a few doughies" & they said yeah, no problems. WTF !!

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"I was young and impressionable once! You might understand one day."

I understand the laws of probability,
the probability of occurrence, severity and detection
That's enough.

As I said, Best you don't visit any auto related event stateside.
Your head would explode with what they get up to, when compared to Australia.

How do the young learn in your environs ?
Yes like that drag car in the US that was doing a demo in a closed off street. Lost control and went into the crowd.
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I see theres a video of him doing the exact same thing in NEW YORK! I bet they didnt mind one bit. Why cant we just look the other way sometimes?
Because we have become a nation of prudes.

The last bastion of anti-establishment is gone when it's no longer politically correct to chuck a skid in Darwin....of all places.
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Yes like that drag car in the US that was doing a demo in a closed off street. Lost control and went into the crowd.
Um, wasn't that an aussie that was driving that funny car?
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Um, wasn't that an aussie that was driving that funny car?
I belive it was and he got done for murder. A good idea at the time doesn't hold up so well in court.
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The larrikan spirit if it ever existed is certainly dead in this age that's all my post was about.

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Because we have become a nation of prudes.

The last bastion of anti-establishment is gone when it's no longer politically correct to chuck a skid in Darwin....of all places.
What part of sex or nudity did Robby Gordon do during the burnout!
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The little old ladies tea party membership overwhelmingly endorses the decision handed down by CAMS
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This isn't the first...issue with the person concerned.
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The Larrikin Legacy

The Australian stereotype is intertwined with notions of larrikinism. It is a stereotype of a fundamentally good person that tests the boundaries of dubious rules. As defined by historian Manning Clark,

“Soaring over them all is the larrikin; almost archly self conscious- to smart for his own good, witty rather than humorous, exceeding limits, bending rules and sailing close to the wind, avoiding rather than evading responsibility, playing to an audience, mocking pomposity and smugness, taking the **** out of people, cutting down tall poppies, born of a Wednesday, looking both ways for a Sunday, larger than life, sceptical, iconoclastic, egalitarian yet suffering fools badly, and, above all, defiant."

Although not all Australians are larrikins (most could probably be defined as quite conservative), when it comes to finding icons, no other character stereotype has proved to be as popular with Australians as a whole. In real life, these icons include bushranger Ned Kelly, swimmer Dawn Fraser, digger John Simpson, French resistance leader Nancy Wake, cricketer Shane Warne, actor Errol Flynn and singer Bon Scott. In movies, the larrikin characters of Mick Dundee (Crocodile Dundee) and Daryl Kerrigan (The Castle) have also proved popular with the public.

At the opposite end of the personality spectrum is the wowser. As defined in 1960 by Eugene Gorman QC,

"Wowser is a simple, satisfying, succinct, single word which aptly distinguishes the whole race of windy, watery, cantankerous, snuffling Chadbands, Stiggines, Holy Joes and Scripture-sprouting sneaks, hypocritical humbugs, and unctuous, dirty-minded rotters, who spend their time interfering with the healthy instincts and recreations of healthy-minded, honest humanity."

The Australian affection for the larrikin and scorn for the wowser can probably be traced to the 80 years of Convict transportation that characterised the founding third of Australia’s urban existence. Many of the Convicts showed that they were more likeable, and more respectable, that those who had put them there, or made them into outlaws.

The word itself seems to have been coined by an Irish policeman in a Melbourne court who claimed the prisoner was "larkin about". Overtime, larrikin became a word for people of the streets that were seen as potential criminals. For reasons that probably had something to do with the oppressive nature of Australian society, it also developed a positive connotation.

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I see theres a video of him doing the exact same thing in NEW YORK! I bet they didnt mind one bit. Why cant we just look the other way sometimes?
Visited New York, and first thing I saw was two bikes popping wheelies past the WTC, where the place is literally flooded with police of all rankings, including heavily armed ones. None batted an eyelid , and had more important things to worry about. In Australia they'd have left their ranks and gone after the bikies to impound them Anyone else see the absurdity and Australia law enforcement have their priorities the wrong way around..
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And Tennis Australia still keep Kyrios and Tomic. Both should be dropped and more enterprising talent given the chance.
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maybe CAMS wants the stadium trucks out so people might watch the superutes next year

would you rather watch an LS3 powered ute do jumps and lift wheels or a diesel ute go around bathurst in 3 mins
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maybe CAMS wants the stadium trucks out so people might watch the superutes next year

would you rather watch an LS3 powered ute do jumps and lift wheels or a diesel ute go around bathurst in 3 mins

this Statement is correct, found a reason to get rid of stadium trucks to bring in their own series, thats kind of the same, yet totally different.

That time around Bathurst is a bit optimistic
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this Statement is correct, found a reason to get rid of stadium trucks to bring in their own series, thats kind of the same, yet totally different.

That time around Bathurst is a bit optimistic

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maybe CAMS wants the stadium trucks out so people might watch the superutes next year

would you rather watch an LS3 powered ute do jumps and lift wheels or a diesel ute go around bathurst in 3 mins
Nah, they're dropping the V8 utes for the not so superutes.(they should be V8s)
It'll be a shame if the stadium trucks go, they're a great action packed category to watch.
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Nah, they're dropping the V8 utes for the not so superutes.(they should be V8s)
It'll be a shame if the stadium trucks go, they're a great action packed category to watch.
Thats right they are to, my interest in the category is decreasing year after year.
maybe they're trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone as to speak," Aussie utes" combined with that "lifted" feel.

should be sticking the Coyote and LS in the utes.
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Robby Gordon free to race in Australia again, after apology and donating $10,000 to Australian Road Safety Foundation.
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Although not written or confirmed, my theory (above) has come true, V8Supercars would have put **** loads of pressure onto CAMS for them to back down - they need the Stadium Trucks to get the punters in the gates

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did anyone go to Bathurst and notice the lack of on track entertainment?
I was told CAMS won't allow non CAMS approved vehicles on the track during a race event
we had the army burnout fairlane, Toyota forklift burnout machine, all the hotwheels cars and none of them allowed on the track....the only thing to watch was the air show
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I don't believe that to be true, CAMS has little control over that, and trust me if Supercars wanted it they would get it, they twist CAMS around their little finger - CAMS know not to bust the Golden Goose
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i heard cams is going to implement a speed limit on all events to combat the hoon image of motor sports and also ensure a safe event for every one.

Cams CEO Nanny Mcwowser stated " we want to create a safe environment for both competitors and spectators alike. We also want to make sure we are setting a good example for our many young fans out there and show that following the rules and being safe is what "it's" all about".

McWowser went on to say that "if it only saves one moron from injuring them self, its worth it. You cant let selfish people demand freedom to enjoy themselves and participate in dangerous activities if that leads to stupid people doing stupid things. Its about saving those that are too stupid to save themselves.
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i heard cams is going to implement a speed limit on all events to combat the hoon image of motor sports and also ensure a safe event for every one.

Cams CEO Nanny Mcwowser stated " we want to create a safe environment for both competitors and spectators alike. We also want to make sure we are setting a good example for our many young fans out there and show that following the rules and being safe is what "it's" all about".

McWowser went on to say that "if it only saves one moron from injuring them self, its worth it. You cant let selfish people demand freedom to enjoy themselves and participate in dangerous activities if that leads to stupid people doing stupid things. Its about saving those that are too stupid to save themselves.
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