VF Holden

[deadfish2]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

The exterior does nothing for me. It's gone very corporate GM and lost some muscle.

Interior looks like a big step up.

not forgetting this is a calais and in the ve has a rather different front end look to the current sports model, i think the sports models will be still rather muscular looking,

but from the front doors forward and including the wheel design, it screams BMW

[Resurrection]

I wouldn't buy one. Next.

[Brazen]

You can option either woodgrain or piano black trim in the Calais.

[Mighty Reds]

Looks nice, but then again its the top model (I guess) so it should.
It has lost the agressive look that the VE had.

[LeadFoot81]

I don't mind the new nose and tail (although I think the nose gels better with VE cabin than the tail)

From side on and front 3/4 the VF reminds me of the previous generation BMW 5 series.

[Road_Warrior]

I have to laugh at people saying "Ford take note of this, Ford take note of that". Do you seriously think they are ignoring this car and it's reveal? I'm sure they are paying quite a lot of attention to it just quietly.

[FPV8U]

Excellent interior, great features, don't mind the front but the rear is a bit strange for my liking.

Either way they have done a great job and its like stepping from VT to VZ with the raft of changes.

[4.0i OHC]

The exterior has gone from looking 2002-era Falcon to 2012-era corporate GM.

The interior's a huge step up, though. It looks a little corporate GM (especially the steering wheel), but things like the blind spot monitoring, electronic park brake and infotainment system will help bring in the sheep that Holden has relied on since 1988 to buy their large car. In previous mid-life updates, Holden has taken a half-arsed approach with the interior (pretty much the only thing they changed from VP to VR was the top half of the dash). Nice to see they changed the door skins this time; they look heaps more modern than the VE (and FG as well, as much as I hate to say it). I know we only have press photos, but could we see an increase in interior quality? It hasn't exactly been a strong point of Australian cars since September 2002.

Are the engines and transmissions are going to remain the same?

[Brazen]

Ha, dealers at the launch are asking 'where is the diesel?'

[FPV GTHO]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

I have to laugh at people saying "Ford take note of this, Ford take note of that". Do you seriously think they are ignoring this car and it's reveal? I'm sure they are paying quite a lot of attention to it just quietly.

But what, realistically, would they be able to change for FH, that they weren't already doing?

[350125GO]

Looks the goods to me.

[4.0i OHC]

Originally Posted by Brazen

You can option either woodgrain or piano black trim in the Calais.

This is actually pretty cool. I miss the days of the AU high series, with almost as much fake wood on the dashboard as a ZH Fairlane.

[4.0i OHC]

Originally Posted by deadfish2

but from the front doors forward and including the wheel design, it screams BMW

I agree with you about the wheel design, but as for the car itself, I don't really see it. The sloping bonnet (BMW engine bays have to fit an inline 6, remember), big flashy chrome grille, busy front bumper and sad looking headlights actually remind me more of a Mercedes.

However, it reminds me even more of a Holden Epica.

[SM1DY]

Hi Jaguar, we like your car, we'll just copy it.

Interior looks fantastic, ***-end looks dodgy. I'd hate to be a clean freak, because keeping that interior dust free would be a mission.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

But what, realistically, would they be able to change for FH, that they weren't already doing?

There could be some spec/content changes for model variants based on what is known from this reveal. For example, I bet Ford weren't banking on the VF having park assist across the board. These sorts of things are (relatively) easy to implement in lower models if they are already engineered into a higher grade of the car.

Honestly I think the only item that wont turn up in the '14 car is the HUD - although I would point out that as part of the CD4.3 development program (that's the next gen Taurus and Lincoln MKS FYI) a HUD is on the list.

[greenfoam]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Ha, dealers at the launch are asking 'where is the diesel?'

And that will be the killer in the sales. they've clearly done a great job improving the VE but it just won't sell without a diesel in 2013. that's what the market wants and you have to deliver on that or you won't sell anything.

[EVLKNEVL]

I see the the rear of the car has received the 'blunt butterknife' treatment as well, in fact the tail lights look the same as the headlamps only red..

[gtfpv]

VE CAME OUT IN 2006 . it's now 2013 . the VF looks current , it has a very nice interior , the calais would be a competitor for the G6ET .
Dont be cocky with remarks , our G6ET is nice too , but it's circa 2008 .
Its obvious the holden is becoming a OPEL/ CADILAC , and Ford will become taurus/ mustang .
The VF is a different more modern technical future car over the OOOOOLLLLD VE .
Fords new release in 2014 , will follow suit .
I like the VF for everything that it is , ( CURRENT) . i cant compare it to any VE . i cant say i'll buy one over a falcon , because the falcon this competes with wont be seen for some time .

I'M STUMPED THOUGH , I WOULD THINK THIS IS AN AMERICAN RELEASE / CAR WTF !!! dont you feel a little second rate when an aussie car is released in the U S f#*&^ n A !!

[Professor Farnsworth]

looks great to me!

[Ryan]

That interior makes my VZ's look like a HQ lol. I like. Can't wait for the SS/SSV reveal.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

Its obvious the holden is becoming a OPEL/ CADILAC , and Ford will become taurus/ mustang .

Actually Holden is quite literally morphing into Chevrolet.

[malazn mafia]

Oh no, great interior. Didn't think it was possible to make an FG interior look 10 years old. So first Ford's BA exterior designer got stolen by toyota (true story), and now it looks like Ford's interior design team defected to Holden.

[CSV_LS1]

This will give a shot in the army for local industry which is great.

Loving the car.

[Mighty Reds]

Originally Posted by Ryan

That interior makes my VZ's look like a HQ lol. I like. Can't wait for the SS/SSV reveal.

What an insult to the HQ.

[XtRmn8]

Found this while looking through some of the released images.

Looks like SV6/SS rear end.

[Mighty Reds]

Does that say SRi V on the back.^^

[MITCHAY]

Very nice. That Calais actually looks like you're getting 50 big ones with that interior. Good job Holden.

[mrghia]

Looks like a modded epica at the front. Interior looks too busy and that back end looks absolutely woeful. Honestly I don't know what all the fuss is. I will wait until I see one in the flesh because in the the pics it just looks average

[Professor Farnsworth]

i'd say that's an SS as it has an AFM badge on the right

[Road_Warrior]

Yep. Interesting. There wouldn't be a 4 pot Commodore in the wings would there?