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Old 07-12-2023, 12:09 AM   #1
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Default Ford costing more than a Lexus??

What kind of crazy upside down world do we live in where Fords are now more expensive than Lexus? In 1997 if you told someone that they'd laugh at you. Compare prices (US dollars, rounded)

1997 Ford F-150 XLT $21,000
1997 Ford Expedition $27,000
1997 Lexus ES $30,000

Now today's prices:

2023 Lexus ES $43,000
2023 Ford F-150 XLT $45,000
2023 Ford Expedition $55,000

The person driving the Lexus has gone from having the best car on the block in 1997, to being the "poor" man on the block in 2023. It makes you wonder why Lexus haven't increased their prices, if the market is willing to pay so much?
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Old 07-12-2023, 05:06 AM   #2
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Default Re: Ford costing more than a Lexus??

I will take a dozen F150
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Old 07-12-2023, 05:47 AM   #3
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Default Re: Ford costing more than a Lexus??

Lexus ES is a Camry in drag.
A more valid comparison and one worthy of the best car on the block title would be the LX470 at 55k usd in 1998 according to google.
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If I go to Ford.com the F150's starting price is under $35k
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If I go to Ford.com the F150's starting price is under $35k
Be careful of that, it is advertised as a hook, getting one without a fleet number is hard.
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Old 09-12-2023, 02:16 AM   #6
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If I go to Ford.com the F150's starting price is under $35k
I was quoting XLT (Supercab) prices because that's the one likely to be bought by private buyers, the base XL is mostly fleet sales.
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I was quoting XLT (Supercab) prices because that's the one likely to be bought by private buyers, the base XL is mostly fleet sales.
These days, XLT is considered a fleet vehicle too, so retail sales begin with Lariat version….
You can still get them of course but I think they are a little more difficult because dealers
try to steer buyers into the nicer premium trims…I wonder why LOL.
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