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Old 11-01-2019, 07:36 AM   #31
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Default Re: 2018 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS vs Ford Mustang GT comparison review

Saw my first one on the road on the way home yesterday.
Looked pretty mean looking back at it in the mirror ... it passed me and i followed it.
not very good looking from the back though. Really bland ... and the rear looked really high off the ground as well.

Owner gave it a bootful. Was rather quiet indeed. Sorta sounded like a V8 ... but nowhere near as a nice or tough as a MY19 GT.
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Old 11-01-2019, 10:49 AM   #32
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For the last 8-10 years I've been showing Falcon to American Ford enthusiasts on various forums
feedback in styling and interiors was to say the least disappointing to downright offensive.
This bloke was impressed though ..

Bottom line , it doesn't matter that much . It's a moot point . Falcon is our car , always will be but there are some Americans , European's , etc who like them .

Given the propensity for trucks and SUV's , it doesn't surprise me that our US> friends are ho hum about our mighty Falcon although the minority who do like them REALLY LIKE THEM ..The ones I' know seem to be that way .
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Old 11-01-2019, 04:40 PM   #33
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So the Camaro will be badged as HSV. I would have thought for the sake of keeping the GM fanboys happy they would have left it badged as a Chev, or will those who used to put Chev badges on their Commies now put Holden badges on their Camaro ? I guess we will soon find out

To be badged as HSV implies its a Holden special vehicle i.e something better than the standard model, so will the Aussie camaro have performance features not otherwise available in a standard V8 camaro to justify its HSV badging?
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Old 11-01-2019, 04:57 PM   #34
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So the Camaro will be badged as HSV. I would have thought for the sake of keeping the GM fanboys happy they would have left it badged as a Chev, or will those who used to put Chev badges on their Commies now put Holden badges on their Camaro ? I guess we will soon find out

To be badged as HSV implies its a Holden special vehicle i.e something better than the standard model, so will the Aussie camaro have performance features not otherwise available in a standard V8 camaro to justify its HSV badging?
Surely you're taking the ****?

I doubt too many HSV owners ripped their HSV badges off to fit Bowtie's so im not sure why the Current offerings would be subject to any different.

HSV enhanced vehicles weren't always performance enhanced so being converted from LHD to RHD is more than enough to be considered enhanced by HSV, not that it really matters, HSV is just a company.

And before you suggest that a LHD to RHD isnt an 'enhancement' it is because driving from the right hand side of a car in Australia is a much better proposition than the alternative due to vision factors, so it is enhanced over its original designation for our conditions.
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Old 11-01-2019, 05:07 PM   #35
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So the Camaro will be badged as HSV. I would have thought for the sake of keeping the GM fanboys happy they would have left it badged as a Chev, or will those who used to put Chev badges on their Commies now put Holden badges on their Camaro ? I guess we will soon find out

To be badged as HSV implies its a Holden special vehicle i.e something better than the standard model, so will the Aussie camaro have performance features not otherwise available in a standard V8 camaro to justify its HSV badging?
Camaro's (just like the Silverado's) are Badged/sold as Chev's.


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Saw my first one on the road on the way home yesterday.
Looked pretty mean looking back at it in the mirror ... it passed me and i followed it.
not very good looking from the back though. Really bland ... and the rear looked really high off the ground as well.

Owner gave it a bootful. Was rather quiet indeed. Sorta sounded like a V8 ... but nowhere near as a nice or tough as a MY19 GT.
You know, I agree with you regarding its looks... I LOVE them from the front, but from the back not so much.. Its almost like they spent a heap of time making the front end look awesome then thought, "Bugger, running out of time" so did the back in 5 minutes...
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Old 11-01-2019, 05:17 PM   #36
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the camaro looks much better.

the front of that facelifted mustang is hideous. the first model that was sold here looked much better
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So the Camaro will be badged as HSV. I would have thought for the sake of keeping the GM fanboys happy they would have left it badged as a Chev, or will those who used to put Chev badges on their Commies now put Holden badges on their Camaro ? I guess we will soon find out

To be badged as HSV implies its a Holden special vehicle i.e something better than the standard model, so will the Aussie camaro have performance features not otherwise available in a standard V8 camaro to justify its HSV badging?
The Camaro will never sell in this market as a “whatever”, buy it as a HSV, but it as a Chev, or a whatever, it will never be a mainstream product like a Mustang is.

It may not even survive the next product cycle, as the sales in the US are so poor.
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The Camaro will never sell in this market as a “whatever”, buy it as a HSV, but it as a Chev, or a whatever, it will never be a mainstream product like a Mustang is.

It may not even survive the next product cycle, as the sales in the US are so poor.
Wow, he speaks!!

I thought you just lingered around clicking the thanks button on anything jpd80 says

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the camaro looks much better.

the front of that facelifted mustang is hideous. the first model that was sold here looked much better
Except it’s not. It was a bit disliked at first. But after seeing it on the road, next to no one thinks that now. To me its a lot better, especially with the bonnet vents.

Camaro looks like a cartoon. Even the yanks hate it cause it bombed in sales ever since release. GM even made it worse with the coming update which is puke worthy.

Disclaimer- beauty is in the eye of the beholder, opinions are like a holes blah, blah, blah.
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Except it’s not. It was a bit disliked at first. But after seeing it on the road, next to no one thinks that now. To me its a lot better, especially with the bonnet vents.

Camaro looks like a cartoon. Even the yanks hate it cause it bombed in sales ever since release. GM even made it worse with the coming update which is puke worthy.

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Nail meet head

Even I disliked it when the release photos came out, but it grows on you and on the road they look fantastic.

Also the colours seem to look a lot better on this facelift, example I hated Kona Blue on the 11/12's yet it looks fantastic on the 18's, same with Ruby Red on the 15's.
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My two cents,

Now that Opel Vauxhall is gone, it's a miracle that GM still invests in any RHD vehicles.
HSV deserves high praise for taking a chance with RHD Camaro, GM deserves none.
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My two cents,

Now that Opel Vauxhall is gone, it's a miracle that GM still invests in any RHD vehicles.
HSV deserves high praise for taking a chance with RHD Camaro, GM deserves none.
It will be interesting to see which way GM goes in future with regard to future RHD models now that they have pulled out of many big RHD markets. Holdens poor sales figures aren’t going to help.
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It will be interesting to see which way GM goes in future with regard to future RHD models now that they have pulled out of many big RHD markets. Holdens poor sales figures aren’t going to help.
And then they offer Equinox and Acadia in RHD, there can't be many RHD markets left for GM..
To do that and ignore Camaro as being too risky, did they listen too much to Holden Hardcore?
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