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Old 09-06-2010, 09:37 PM   #1
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Default au xr6 vct - auto to manual

Hey guys i tried searching for manual conversion threads but came up with nothing, whos been through the process? any melbourne mobs that will do it?

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Old 09-06-2010, 09:46 PM   #2
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Have carried out the conversion myself, u will require:

Manual gearbox EA to AU. (However the Ea to EL box has a shorter bell housing, so slight tunnel hole rectification is required)
Flywheel. (EA to EL have a different flywheel but will fit, however smaller clutch)
Pedal box (out of AU)
clutch cable (out of AU),
Tailshaft will fit straight from auto the manual.
And last but not least, invest in a short shift kit. 385 dollars from Malwood in QLD.
Good luck. U wont regret the change. AUTO's are worthless........
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Old 09-06-2010, 11:28 PM   #3
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Also u will need the manual ecu, as the resistor trick in the ea - els dont work on the au wiring, or u just take ya car to a tuner or ford to get the to flash it
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Posted by Xcabbi, Does it slap or rattle? Rattle is more to do with timing chains and tensioners. Slap is more to do with lifters, rings, bearings or GENIII boat anchors
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Old 10-06-2010, 12:23 AM   #4
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Check out my build thread as there is a fair amount of info for this as i have done it on my wagon.

Pretty much all of the manual stuff will be needed, pedal box (as yours is series III try and get one from a series II or III otherwise you will need to drill new holes in a series I) i found out the hard way, gear box, clutch cable, bell housing, flywheel, clutch kit i have heard that sedans can use the auto drive shaft, i couldn't in my wagon therefore had a custom one made up.

Then the fun part to get the ecu sorted. It will run and drive on an auto ecu but your thermo fans will be on full blast (no temp input fromm auto trans), not sure if you can have an auto ecu re flashed but i just got a new ecu (correct series manual) through injectronics (a link to their page with a million codes (Injectronics) . They wouldn't deal with me directly though. Ecu alone cost $350 after $200 back from swapping another one. And then the new ecu needs to be programmed.

Lastly i got this done at my local mechanic i go to Mick at Pro Street in frankston. He doesn't normally do this sort of thing but he knows his stuff real well (worked for ford for several years) and his partner has a fg holden on NOS which made it into street machine. I definately trust them with my car.

Anyways, enough blabbing on and such if you have any more questions fire away.

Cheers, Rhys (You will never look back once you do it)
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:27 AM   #5
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Haha im excited im definitly doing this, anyone know where to start to source these parts for a reasonable price? FTG auto salvage? Ill fit it all at trade school
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:53 AM   #6
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Either ebay or wreckers should be able to sort you out, just check up on a few things , like how many ks the box has done, condition of the clutch etc, prob a good idea to replace the clutch with either a heavy duty or brand new one , so you dont have a problem down the track, strengthen the pedal box welds, as you dont want it to crackprobaly a good idea to strengthen the firewall as well while ya there, ( Issues on the E seires)
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:19 AM   #7
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If you have cash to burn Mal Wood in QLD supply fully reco'd kits with absolutely everything you need for about $3.5k can't remember the exact figure. Not sure if that includes the ECU or not, but they also do a drive in drive out deal for a 400 extra or so.
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:38 AM   #8
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I bought an Xr6 wreck with everthing in it for $2300... Took me 2 full days with a mate to swap engine and gear box out.... Was actually easier than i thought.
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Old 10-06-2010, 12:33 PM   #9
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Best bet is to pick up series II onwards wreck from the auctions. That way you get all of the parts only problem is you won't know exactly what condition they are in. This is how i got all my parts then sold what i didn't need. A lot cheaper this way than 3.5k but not reco'ed at this point.

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Old 10-06-2010, 12:50 PM   #10
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sometimes you'll find everything your after from ebay but it can be a big waiting game.
I got a T5z for $350 incl clutch tailshaft and cable but i think i was just lucky at the time. Pretty sure there was a T5 on there not long ago for around $450 but for now heres 2 things off the list......
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-Falcon-A...item439fc30f5f

hes on fordmods as well incase he had it listed on there too....
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:00 PM   #11
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In melbourne but slips 1st and not sure if its AU or E series ect

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-5-speed-...item335ddebc88

otherwise if you feel like going for a drive this would be very worth while and by the looks of it everything you need......
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-Falcon-A...item439fbe6c70

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Old 10-06-2010, 01:04 PM   #12
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I bought an Xr6 wreck with everthing in it for $2300... Took me 2 full days with a mate to swap engine and gear box out.... Was actually easier than i thought.
That is the best way to do it, nice score with the engine aswell.
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:14 PM   #13
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Old 11-06-2010, 01:27 PM   #14
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That is the best way to do it, nice score with the engine aswell.
The beauty of it was that after selling off all the bits and pieces i didnt want/need, then it only cost me about $1500 (inculding half price labour from a mechanic mate)
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This is something I've always wondered about too. Was considering doing a manual conversion on my AU but wasnt sure if the standard T5 and perhaps an upgraded clutch would handle the power I put thru it. 3.5k for a drive in drive out conversion sounds a bit steep regardless if its recoed or not. Hard part is finding a wrecked AU with a 5 speed in the first place for a good price to do the swap from.
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Old 14-06-2010, 06:23 PM   #16
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hmmm thanks for the advice guys, my mate wreckons the t5 from the VT commys will bolt on, will it?
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You will need a ford bellhousing or a sandwhich plate. The input shaft may also be short/wrong spline.
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Old 22-06-2010, 08:49 PM   #18
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Ahh thanks mate,

will update everyone with how i go on this.
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