Ford Australia F150. Yes Please.

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"Ford in Australia is waving its hand in the air for a right-hand-drive version of the next F-150, with the brand's local boss telling CarsGuide she is "making sure people understand there is a market" in Australia for the world's best-selling vehicle.

Ford is currently hard at work on the next-gen F-150, expected to arrive Stateside in 2021, with international reports suggesting the key engine would be a new 4.8-litre V8 good for around 315kW and 570Nm, and that it would partner with a 10-speed automatic.

Rumours have been swirling that the next F-150 will be a global product with the potential for a steering wheel on both sides of the car. And that's something Ford in Australia is hoping for, describing "commercial and trucks" as one of its strengths in this market.

"We have continued, as we have for a number of years, to say that if there was a right-hand-drive (vehicle), then Australia, we believe, would be a good market for an F-150, but currently there are no plans for a right-hand drive," says Ford Australia president and CEO, Kay Hart.

Read More: Ford F-150 full-size ute still on radar in Australia
"We continue to put in our market wants. We have a process at Ford which looks at where we believe our customers are, and where we believe our strengths will be. Commercial and trucks is clearly one of our strengths."

[jpd80]

Wishful thinking
If FOA doesn’t have any RHD plans for the MY 21 F150
then the minimum is plus two years from now if they
said yes today.

The 4.8 V8 story was an internet misread of Ford changing coyote’s bore size,
Ford increased the bore when internet experts thought it would be decreased.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Wishful thinking
If FOA doesn’t have any RHD plans for the MY 21 F150
then the minimum is plus two years from now if they
said yes today.

.

Would be nice.
I've been seeing so many newish RHD conversions and bigger, pulling gooseneck trailers (Rodeo season) here lately, I thought they must have been factory.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Perhaps they are seeing the success of the other large American utes?

Going gangbusters from all reports. Would be a smart move to get a RHD factory vehicle into our market but the number crunchers will ultimately decide.

Are the converted ones restricted here in any way? Like once they pass a certain amount of conversations they need to do more to make them more 'factory'?

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[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Perhaps they are seeing the success of the other large American utes?

Going gangbusters from all reports. Would be a smart move to get a RHD factory vehicle into our market but the number crunchers will ultimately decide.

Are the converted ones restricted here in any way? Like once they pass a certain amount of conversations they need to do more to make them more 'factory'?

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Seen just as many Silverado's and RAM's pulling the same type of trailers, you would think a factory option would be nice.

[jpd80]

Here’s a question to think about,
Given the price range of US F150 crew cabs is similar to GT Mustang,
Would a factory RHD F150 crew cab start around $65k-$70k?

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Here’s a question to think about,
Given the price range of US F150 crew cabs is similar to GT Mustang,
Would a factory RHD F150 crew cab start around $65k-$70k?

Price, doesn't seem to be stopping the horsey set, farmers and 5th wheelers buying RHD converted ones.

[BENT_8]

I guess if this comes to fruition all the carpark spaces will suddenly be big enough for these full sized ute's unlike now....

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Here’s a question to think about,
Given the price range of US F150 crew cabs is similar to GT Mustang,
Would a factory RHD F150 crew cab start around $65k-$70k?

Given that the Landcruiser Crew cab is $80K (plus) they'd sell shyte Loads of em @ $70K..

Ford would be business like & Pitch 'em at the same price as the Tojo... In My opinion..

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

I guess if this comes to fruition all the carpark spaces will suddenly be big enough for these full sized ute's unlike now....

Who knows, drivers might even learn how to park properly too.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by hayseed

Given that the Landcruiser Crew cab is $80K (plus) they'd sell shyte Loads of em @ $70K..

Ford would be business like & Pitch 'em at the same price as the Tojo... In My opinion..

Landcruiser dual cab only has a year or two left in it before safety, emissions and economy laws get the better of it. Toyota has no plans to replace it.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Price, doesn't seem to be stopping the horsey set, farmers and 5th wheelers buying RHD converted ones.

Exactly, a lower price point opens up the field to more buyers
which may or may not play into any possible plans Ford may have.
I doubt that it’s a reality but you never know......

[Tassie f100]

Dunno,these big mothers are really only suited to rural use.They really are a pain in the butt around cities.Parking spaces seem to be getting smaller and less of them.How many times do you see even Landcruiser size vehicles taking 2 spaces because the drivers either can’t park them or have the “it will be right” attitude

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Perhaps they are seeing the success of the other large American utes?

Going gangbusters from all reports. Would be a smart move to get a RHD factory vehicle into our market but the number crunchers will ultimately decide.

Are the converted ones restricted here in any way? Like once they pass a certain amount of conversations they need to do more to make them more 'factory'?

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Let's face reality though, the numbers are still tiny. Yes they have grown, but of course a new product will when it's starting from zero.

Toyota and Ford sell as many Hilux's and Rangers in a couple of weeks than they sell Rams and Silverados in a whole year.

I would love to see Ford build a RHD factory F series though. But imo it won't happen. Not as those tiny numbers. Ford would sell more F series in half a day than Ford Australia could sell in a year. The yanks are flat knacker just supplying the north american market. They simply don't need to make RHD versions.

A local conversion by Premcar or it's ilk would be more likely.

The all electric F150 coming next year would be interesting.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Let's face reality though, the numbers are still tiny. Yes they have grown, but of course a new product will when it's starting from zero.

Toyota and Ford sell as many Hilux's and Rangers in a couple of weeks than they sell Rams and Silverados in a whole year.

I would love to see Ford build a RHD factory F series though. But imo it won't happen. Not as those tiny numbers. Ford would sell more F series in half a day than Ford Australia could sell in a year. The yanks are flat knacker just supplying the north american market. They simply don't need to make RHD versions.

A local conversion by Premcar or it's ilk would be more likely.

The all electric F150 coming next year would be interesting.

The massive numbers sold in the US is not really understood here, when you say 800,000 per year of F-series that's 80% of Australia's TOTAL passenger vehicle market. I'm with you Bossxr8, I think the best chance is a local converter with support by Ford US being given by direct sales from factory.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

The massive numbers sold in the US is not really understood here, when you say 800,000 per year of F-series that's 80% of Australia's TOTAL passenger vehicle market. I'm with you Bossxr8, I think the best chance is a local converter with support by Ford US being given by direct sales from factory.

The numbers are staggering. They sell something like 75,000 f series per month. And they sold 90,000 rangers for the year, which is about double what we sold here. It continues to grow too.

Isn’t there already a company converting f series here? Performax? Not factory approved i guess though.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The numbers are staggering. They sell something like 75,000 f series per month. And they sold 90,000 rangers for the year, which is about double what we sold here. It continues to grow too.

Isn’t there already a company converting f series here? Performax? Not factory approved i guess though.

Vehicle Development Corporation - in Coolaroo.

https://www.vdc.com.au/

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The numbers are staggering. They sell something like 75,000 f series per month. And they sold 90,000 rangers for the year, which is about double what we sold here. It continues to grow too.

Isn’t there already a company converting f series here? Performax? Not factory approved i guess though.

Correct...

https://www.performaxint.com.au/

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The numbers are staggering. They sell something like 75,000 f series per month. And they sold 90,000 rangers for the year, which is about double what we sold here. It continues to grow too.

Isn’t there already a company converting f series here? Performax? Not factory approved i guess though.

I was going to say there's maybe two, maybe not as posted by FC and Hayseed. I think they buy from US Ford dealers so if they could source from Ford N/A directly it would surely end up with a better local on road price....or maybe FoMoCo Oz could step in here.

[HIPO]

A Toyota Tacoma would be good...…….

[MITCHAY]

Seen a few converted F trucks here to go with Rams and Silverados. No reason they could not do the same if not factory RHD.

As I have said before I reckon Toyota would probably be the first with factory RHD. Tundra or Tacoma or maybe both.

[CyberWasp]

It is a given if you are a car maker there are two things you need to be able to do.
1) Have different engine options for the same body.
2) Make LHD and RHD versions of the same body.

This has been a given for over 100 years now so I don't understand the mindset.

Yes we may only consume a piddly amount but what happened to the ruthless aggression of a company to steal sales off the opposition at all costs.
Isn't the goal of a company to be #1 in every market they enter?
Looking at Toyota there is plenty of market share to take.

Who would be happy with the football coach of their team sitting 10th on the ladder saying " yeah we could bring in some new strong players but will cost too much. We are happy to sit here on the ladder and toddle along?

[chookaradley]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Here’s a question to think about,
Given the price range of US F150 crew cabs is similar to GT Mustang,
Would a factory RHD F150 crew cab start around $65k-$70k?

I tell ya what. If they did, hang onto your hat because theyd need security out the front of Ford dealers to let people in 1 at a time!

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by HIPO

A Toyota Tacoma would be good...…….

The Tacoma is a hunk of junk, and ranger size. You mean Tundra, which is f series size. It really has nothing on the f-series, silverado or ram though.

The Tacoma is an awful thing to drive, and the interior looks 20 years old.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Isn't the goal of a company to be #1 in every market they enter?

Number 1 in what measure? Volume? Total gross sales $? Profitability? Reliability? Quality? You can’t be number 1 in everything, and I’m willing to bet profitability is more important than volume.

[MITCHAY]

Now I thought of it I actually saw a tray back Ram yesterday which I thought was weird

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The Tacoma is a hunk of junk, and ranger size. You mean Tundra, which is f series size. It really has nothing on the f-series, silverado or ram though.

The Tacoma is an awful thing to drive, and the interior looks 20 years old.

I can't speak to how good they are but Toyota is the only company I can think of who has a good enough rep here who can build them factory and flog em cheap enough.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Now I thought of it I actually saw a tray back Ram yesterday which I thought was weird



I can't speak to how good they are but Toyota is the only company I can think of who has a good enough rep here who can build them factory and flog em cheap enough.

They wouldn’t be cheap though. Just look at what they charge for cruisers. Especially troopies. Crazy price when they are bare bones.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They wouldn’t be cheap though. Just look at what they charge for cruisers. Especially troopies. Crazy price when they are bare bones.

Toyota are Masters of charging as much as they can possibly getaway with...

Since the demise of the Patrol Cab Chassis they've had that Segment to themselves, & have being charging accordingly..

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They wouldn’t be cheap though. Just look at what they charge for cruisers. Especially troopies. Crazy price when they are bare bones.

They only have to be cheap enough to cut the grass of the local converters though which they could do easily. Like you said we still pay huge for Cruisers so price is not really a concern.

[roKWiz]

I'll have to get down to the rodeo tomorrow and do a head count on F's, GM and RAM's just to suit my own curiosity.