EF/L BBM into EB

-jjM- · 27-01-2006, 11:24 PM

gday fellas

been interested in doing this mod for a while, iv seen a few EA-EDs wit this done, but whats really involved here, as well, is the power add worth it too?

what needs to be changed, made and done for this to all work, cause realise its a fair bita work to get all the wiring right

also, what price am i looking at here, i remember ethir AFF or FM sponser doing it for a price

cheers fellas

snypereb · 27-01-2006, 11:32 PM

Whats the BBM mate?

EDXR6T · 27-01-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by snypereb

Whats the BBM mate?

its wut a manifold off a EF/L is called cant remember wut the letters stand for right now

snypereb · 27-01-2006, 11:41 PM

Haha sweet as mate thanks!!

Damo · 27-01-2006, 11:54 PM

BBM = Broad Band Manifold.

Damo · 27-01-2006, 11:58 PM

Here is a pic of the manifold on an EB. Not sure what involved Joe, but I think you need an EL ECU to switch the runners or some kinda switch.

-jjM- · 28-01-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Damo

Here is a pic of the manifold on an EB. Not sure what involved Joe, but I think you need an EL ECU to switch the runners or some kinda switch.

so hot!!!

i remember hearing the ecu, are EA/D and EF/L ecus all the same?

im wondering more about the wiring and how its all wired up

-jjM- · 28-01-2006, 01:16 AM

researching http://www.altedperformance.com/bbms/bbms.html

i saw this one ages ago, just wondering on a price, what price would i really be lookin at here?

V8 Ghia · 28-01-2006, 01:08 PM

I picked up the entire kit for under $200, without the ecu (as I went for a manual el xr6 ecu). If you install it yourself it is cheap but there is a fair bit of labour involved so it would cost a bit to get someone to install it.
EL ecu are different as they control the BBM switch and have a thermo fan control aswell. EF ecu's have a different number of pins so they don't plug straight in to a EA/ED, but an EL ecu will (with an extra pin added for the bbm swtich).

Kenaz · 28-01-2006, 02:02 PM

Yeah EF/EL has the Broadband manifold as oppsoed to the EA-ED 'dialup' manifold ;)

-jjM- · 28-01-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ED I6

I picked up the entire kit for under $200, without the ecu (as I went for a manual el xr6 ecu). If you install it yourself it is cheap but there is a fair bit of labour involved so it would cost a bit to get someone to install it.
EL ecu are different as they control the BBM switch and have a thermo fan control aswell. EF ecu's have a different number of pins so they don't plug straight in to a EA/ED, but an EL ecu will (with an extra pin added for the bbm swtich).

thanks for that ED I6, i thought it was one of the 2 ecus, the labour bit is all im really kinda worried about, also, due to my engine swap, dose ED fuel regulator fit onto ef/l rails? or would just be better to chuck the whole rail onto the new manifold?

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Originally Posted by Kenaz

Yeah EF/EL has the Broadband manifold as oppsoed to the EA-ED 'dialup' manifold ;)

hahaha i thought on sayin that, but u got it first

Kenaz · 28-01-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -jjM-

hahaha i thought on sayin that, but u got it first

lol someone had to

Psycho Chicken · 28-01-2006, 02:27 PM

Just so you know, there's no difference to the top end. You'll gain a bit of torque down low, but that's it.

Rowy,xr6 · 28-01-2006, 06:29 PM

I have a dyno of the difference in power but i cant get it up on the site, if done properly there are both top and bottom end gains, whether its worth it is really up to you.

I think it may have been "stockstandard" that started a thread on this a while ago that showed the dyno read out

EDXR6T · 28-01-2006, 06:33 PM

spend your money on a dam zorst if u want more powere out u moron:P

-jjM- · 28-01-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowy,xr6

I have a dyno of the difference in power but i cant get it up on the site, if done properly there are both top and bottom end gains, whether its worth it is really up to you.

I think it may have been "stockstandard" that started a thread on this a while ago that showed the dyno read out

are you trying to scan it on or something?
so really wit the bbm mostly its bottom end, good for take off?
will it take off like the ef/l cause they do take off really well

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Originally Posted by EDXR6T

spend your money on a dam zorst if u want more powere out u moron:P

.... can someone ban? lol
least i have a car that "STARTS"...*swish*

as well i wanna get a price and wheather its alll worth doin it, zorst will be before it :@

Rowy,xr6 · 28-01-2006, 07:02 PM

Its saved in works and i dont have any paintshops,
its a wps so i cant attach it either

Psycho Chicken · 28-01-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowy,xr6

I have a dyno of the difference in power but i cant get it up on the site, if done properly there are both top and bottom end gains, whether its worth it is really up to you.

I'd like to know how considering the short runner length is pretty much the same. You might get a few kws out of it, but that's it.

More than likely any power difference you get is from something else that's been changed. Injectors, the different intake tubing, etc, etc.