Escape RS- would it be work?

[FalconXV]

http://performancedrive.com.au/top-1...lia-2018-3000/

There was recently talk of this happening, I'm not sure how certain it is, but I hope it's as raw as the Focus RS.

The notion of a performance SUV seems like an oxymoron, and you think they'd have to make it too family oriented to be a driver's car but if BMW, Audi, jaguar, Land Rover can do it, I don't see why sports halo models won't filter down to the mainstream at some point...

[PHawk]

The Skoda looks pretty good.

[chevypower]

They could easily build a sports version of the Escape. The Lincoln MKC gets the 2.3EB, and makes it pretty quick apparently.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by PHawk

The Skoda looks pretty good.

I think it's actually the worst one...looks exactly like a range rover.

At least the others are a little unique....the Nissan looks OK and I like the Ford too.

[Chopped]

A mate bought a Porsche Macan GTS a few weeks ago as the new family hauler.
He has taken me for a few brisk drives and that thing would embarass a lot of cars on the road with its handling.

But for me the idea of a sporty SUV is a flawed concept to begin with. It's a compromise.

[CyberWasp]

Personally, I would like to see a people mover Transit Custom model with EB motor.

[Dr Terry]

Originally Posted by Chopped

But for me the idea of a sporty SUV is a flawed concept to begin with. It's a compromise.

I agree 100%, not many people realise what the 'S' in SUV stands for.

One of life's great mysteries, what is sporty about a Sports Utility Vehicle.

Dr Terry.

[Wretched]

As a sales promotion it should do well if done right similar to the Focus RS.
It will have its compromises as do ALL SUVs like this, but it has potential.
Look at the success of the SQ5, the Q3 RS and pretty much all Porsche SUVs.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

I agree 100%, not many people realise what the 'S' in SUV stands for.

One of life's great mysteries, what is sporty about a Sports Utility Vehicle.

Dr Terry.

SUV = Sports Utility Vehicle or Suburban Utility Vehicle.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_utility_vehicle

A sport utility vehicle or suburban utility vehicle (SUV) is a vehicle classified as a light truck, but operated as a family vehicle. SUV's are similar to a large station wagon or estate car, though typically featuring tall interior packaging, high H-point seating, high centre of gravity, high ground-clearance and especially four- or all-wheel-drive capability for on- or off-road ability. Some SUVs include the towing capacity of a pickup truck with the passenger-carrying space of a minivan or large sedan.

Popular in the late-1990s and early–mid-2000s, SUVs sales temporarily declined due to high oil prices and a declining economy. The traditional truck-based SUV is gradually being supplanted by the crossover SUV, which uses an automobile platform for lighter weight and better fuel efficiency. By 2010, SUV sales around the world were growing, in spite of high gas prices.......

CUV = Crossover Utility Vehicle or Crossover.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_(automobile)

A crossover or crossover utility vehicle (CUV) is a vehicle built on a car platform and/or combining, in highly variable degrees, features of a sport utility vehicle (SUV) with features from a passenger vehicle, especially those of a station wagon or hatchback.

Using the unibody construction typical of passenger vehicles instead of the body-on-frame platform used in light trucks and the original SUVs, the crossover combines SUV design features such as tall interior packaging, high H-point seating, high centre of gravity, high ground-clearance or all-wheel-drive capability – with design features from an automobile such as a passenger vehicle's platform, independent rear suspension, car-like handling, lighter weight and better fuel economy than trucks or truck-based vehicles.

A crossover may borrow features from a station wagon or hatchback, such as the two-box design of a shared passenger/cargo volume with rear access via a third or fifth door, a lift gate – and flexibility to allow configurations that favour either passenger or cargo volume, e.g., fold-down rear seats.

Crossovers are offered with front wheel drive, rear wheel drive or all-wheel drive configurations. Crossovers are typically designed for only light off-road capability, if any at all.......

Sources indicate the term crossover began as a marketing term, and a 2008CNNMoney article indicated that "many consumers cannot tell the difference between an SUV and a crossover." A January 2008 Wall Street Journal blog article called crossovers "wagons that look like sport utility vehicles, but ride like cars".....

It would seem we need to catch up with the current acronyms

[Vesper Martini]

So reading that the escape would fall under the crossover category, perhaps even My Territory would too.
despite their looks these cars drive just as well as their sedan or hatch variants so having a sport model is not such an odd concept.

As Chevypower mentions the Lincoln MKC already has the 2.3EB it would be pretty easy to release an Escape.

But personally, the escape is more of a shopping cart type of vehicle, so I don't really see a market.

So I would rather the larger Edge sport 2.7EB came here (sorry I keep bringing this up..)

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

I agree 100%, not many people realise what the 'S' in SUV stands for.

One of life's great mysteries, what is sporty about a Sports Utility Vehicle.

Dr Terry.

Originally I think that meant:

Sports : hunting/fishing/shooting, bat & ball sports etc.
Utility : can haul the whole tribe and equipment to where ever they need to go
Vehicle : has 4 wheels

Originally Posted by PHawk

The Skoda looks pretty good.

I agree but which one did you mean?

Octavia
Superb
Kodiak
Karoq
Yeti

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[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Raptor

Originally I think that meant:

Sports : hunting/fishing/shooting, bat & ball sports etc.
Utility : can haul the whole tribe and equipment to where ever they need to go
Vehicle : has 4 wheels

That's my take on the meaning of 'SUV' too - not that the car is sporty to drive, but that it can haul all your gear for your outdoor adventure. I've heard of the term 'Sports Activity Vehicle' (SAV) used instead of SUV, but I don't think it's all that common now.

[Stefan]

My understanding too....the sport is not refering to the car as a sports car but as a vehicle that has the ability to take you to varied recreational (sport) outings.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by NX74205

That's my take on the meaning of 'SUV' too - not that the car is sporty to drive, but that it can haul all your gear for your outdoor adventure. I've heard of the term 'Sports Activity Vehicle' (SAV) used instead of SUV, but I don't think it's all that common now.

I think that was a BMW marketing thing with the X5.

[Valid8]

My wife drives a 2012 Kuga. It has the Volvo 2.5 ltr 5 cylinder turbo motor, what a little ripper it is. All wheel drive and a sporty note too.

[FalconXV]

Originally Posted by Raptor

Originally I think that meant:

Sports : hunting/fishing/shooting, bat & ball sports etc.
Utility : can haul the whole tribe and equipment to where ever they need to go
Vehicle : has 4 wheels




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Ahhh now I get it..

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Personally, I would like to see a people mover Transit Custom model with EB motor.

Me too, but with the 3.5 Ecoboost drivetrain from the US. We should be getting that here for ambulances, where response time is crucial.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Valid8

My wife drives a 2012 Kuga. It has the Volvo 2.5 ltr 5 cylinder turbo motor, what a little ripper it is. All wheel drive and a sporty note too.

Love that engine

[Rallye Sport]

I'd have thought GT would have been a better description. Thats what it'll spend most of its time doing... touring. Can't see it hurtling through the forrest or winning any WRC titles like its previous RS brethren.

[CoupeKing]

I'll take a stab in the dark and say that the 2018 TrackHawk will be 'sporty', it's got the Hellcat motor, well almost identical.

0-60 3.5
1/4 11.6
T/S 180 mph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqO5dW8Ql_o

[jgmdat]

But for me the idea of a sporty SUV is a flawed concept to begin with. It's a compromise.[/QUOTE]

I use to think the same until i got the wife a Jeep SRT. Now when i get to drive it i really get the concept.

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by jgmdat

I use to think the same until i got the wife a Jeep SRT. Now when i get to drive it i really get the concept.

You also get the fuel bill.

[Craig@AUDI]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Personally, I would like to see a people mover Transit Custom model with EB motor.

You sick puppy...lol!

[jgmdat]

Originally Posted by b2tf

You also get the fuel bill.

17 litres per 100 around town does not bother me considering the fun factor. If i get the Trackhawk that might be a different story, at the end of the day who cares about fuel economy when you have a V8 or a turbo six for that matter.

[FalconXV]

I see things like the Trackhawk and I feel that's where HSV should be competing, to launch a boosted four-cylinder SUV while that thing exists just seems peverse to me.. why even bother.