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Old 05-03-2012, 01:35 PM   #1
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1. Mazda3 – 3733
= 2. Holden Commodore – 2991
= 2. Toyota Corolla – 2991
4. Holden Cruze – 2880
5. Hyundai i30 – 2433
6. Toyota HiLux – 2272
7. Nissan Navara – 2017
8. Mazda2 – 1771
9. Toyota Camry – 1562
10. Ford Focus – 1524

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Old 05-03-2012, 01:42 PM   #2
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So much for Falcon having a good month making up for those hail damaged cars.
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:48 PM   #3
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:51 PM   #4
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Commodore usually outsells Falcon 2 to 1, coupled with getting all the backlog of hail damaged cars from Christmas plus all the amazing deals they have been doing - I wouldnt be suprised if Falcon was just pipped for no.10 slot and so would maybe have around 1500 sales for Feb. Just a guess.
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:56 PM   #5
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Territory 1400
Falcon 1192
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:05 PM   #6
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Jesus thats terrible for Falcon. Surely they cant make it to 2016 on those numbers.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:08 PM   #7
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Good job by the Focus. Right up the Camry's clacker.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:12 PM   #8
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Where's the Fiesta ???
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Good job by the Focus. Right up the Camry's clacker.
Focus competes with Corolla but you are right in that its suprising to see Camry where it is. Its becoming irrelevent - no wagon, no diesel - its like this Camry came straight from the late 90s. The one thing saving it are government and rental fleets.

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Saw a focus hatch again today in the flesh, its a great looking car.

3000 commies...WTF

Mind you I guess Ford is thinking that the Tez is a Falcon wagon really...so I can see how adding them together perhaps works? Tez would be a bit of a cash cow wouldnt it?

Id love to know how many sportswagons are selling, and how many SS's (V8's) are part of that 3000.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:38 PM   #12
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Toyota local manufacturing may look like it could suffer more pain. Just 1875 camry's and Aurions sold (altho new Aurion due out soon). Thats only 85 cars a day (20 days month) for local consumption. With the rest of production going to export (and probably not profitable with $A), one assumes they are bleeding alot of money at the moment.
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Gee the Falcon sales look poor indeed ... even territory is nothing flashing ...
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Territory is fine. Going off the top ten it would have to be the top selling SUV.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:54 PM   #15
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Territory is fine. Going off the top ten it would have to be the top selling SUV.
I think Prado was number 1, but it beat Captiva and Kluger.
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Gee the Falcon sales look poor indeed ... even territory is nothing flashing ...
Pull your head in. Prado sold 1424 to be the number 1 selling SUV in the country and the Territory was 1400 units, just 24 sales behind. Yeah terrible. Not. It's bloody good actually.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:04 PM   #17
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Holden didn't too badly considering Commodore and Cruze sales combined hit 5,871.

Surely the Falcon can't keep going at this level, there can't be any excuses this time around. Christmas was months ago, the hail storm is old news, there is nothing else that should be holding back the sales numbers. Sadly, this may be the best that Falcon can achieve, through to 2016.
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Im concerned about the Falcon ute - there is nothing on the horizon in terms of product development to see its sales pickup, especially as the dedicated LPG Commodore is coming out. I would like to see RTV return - it could really re-invigorate the range.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:25 PM   #20
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Why do you need to develop an RTV, when Ranger is there with a higher ride and better wading capability and it has a Diesel to boot.
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The Focus having such low sales is the biggest problem IMO. I still don't think they're big enough inside and, when first released (no idea what it's like now), was just too expensive compared to other "small" cars.

Also, the inside of the Focus isn't conservative enough for a global car.
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Oh dear....

Falcon is in big trouble!!! Looks like they don't even want to save it...

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Ford need more imported stock of Ranger etc....
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The Focus having such low sales is the biggest problem IMO. I still don't think they're big enough inside and, when first released (no idea what it's like now), was just too expensive compared to other "small" cars.

The inside of the Focus isn't conservative enough for a global car.
If you read the Focus thread, Ford is selling everyone it can get it's hands on. Focus starts to ship from Thailand from June 2012, so lets see what happens when the volume limitations are lifted !!
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[CODE] Ford 2012 2011
Ford Escape 100 362
Ford Falcon 1,192 1,572
Ford Falcon Ute 403 591
Ford Fiesta 869 1,160
Ford Focus 1,524 1,050
Ford Mondeo 511 735
Ford Ranger 4X2 291 314
Ford Ranger 4X4 505 894
Ford Territory 1,400 779
Ford Transit 134 49
Ford Transit Bus 0 6
Ford Transit Heavy 22 90
Ford Total 6,951 7,602

Change -8.6%

Holden 2012 2011
Holden Barina 1,023 551

Holden Barina Spark 164 378
Holden Caprice 161 168
Holden Captiva 5 469 175
Holden Captiva 7 859 704
Holden Colorado 4X2 38 69
Holden Colorado 4X4 465 923
Holden Combo 34 44
Holden Commodore 2,991 3,829
Holden Cruze 2,880 2,582
Holden Epica 3 77
Holden Utility 4X2 601 814
Holden Total 9,688 10,314

change -6.1%

Honda 2012 2011
Honda Accord 22 219
Honda Accord Euro 1,105 359
Honda City 23 221
Honda Civic 153 510
Honda CR-V 165 520
Honda CR-Z 42 0
Honda Insight 35 90
Honda Jazz 854 575
Honda Legend 1 10
Honda Odyssey 203 81
Honda Total 2,603 2,585

Change 0.7%

Hyundai 2012 2011
Hyundai Accent 487 0
Hyundai Elantra 663 33
Hyundai Getz 0 1,456
Hyundai Grandeur 0 1
Hyundai i20 1,093 479
Hyundai i30 2,433 2,654
Hyundai i40 113 0
Hyundai I45 377 224
Hyundai iLOAD 546 491
Hyundai iMAX 148 138
Hyundai ix35 845 795
Hyundai Santa Fe 296 336
Hyundai Veloster 411 0
Hyundai Total 7,412 6,607

change 12.2%

Mazda 2012 2011
Mazda BT-50 4X2 225 468
Mazda BT-50 4X4 846 366
Mazda CX-5 90 0
Mazda CX-7 1,010 814
Mazda CX-9 451 299
Mazda MX5 13 26
Mazda RX8 4 5
Mazda2 1,771 1,572
Mazda3 3,733 3,575
Mazda6 546 519
Mazda Total 8,689 7,644

Change 13.7%

Toyota 2012 2011
Toyota Aurion 313 736
Toyota Camry (4 cyl) 1,562 1,533
Toyota Coaster 29 44
Toyota Corolla 2,991 2,600
Toyota FJ Cruiser 137 0
Toyota Hiace Bus 288 162
Toyota Hiace Van 530 463
Toyota Hilux 4X2 803 1,075
Toyota Hilux 4X4 1,469 1,817
Toyota Kluger 939 997
Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC 766 455
Toyota Landcruiser Wagon 846 850
Toyota Prado 1,424 1,215
Toyota Prius 52 51
Toyota RAV4 1,136 1,042
Toyota Rukus 84 107
Toyota Tarago 114 82
Toyota Yaris 1,366 1,375
Toyota Total 14,849 14,604

Change 1.7%

Volkswagen 2012 2011
Volkswagen Amarok 4X2 52 8
Volkswagen Amarok 4X4 394 56
Volkswagen Caddy 158 108
Volkswagen Caddy Life/Camper 21 11
Volkswagen Caravelle 4 17
Volkswagen Crafter 53 49
Volkswagen Eos 67 31
Volkswagen Golf 1,314 1,215
Volkswagen Golf Cabriolet 51 0
Volkswagen Jetta 194 67
Volkswagen Multivan 35 50
Volkswagen New Beetle 0 45
Volkswagen New Beetle Cabrio 1 21
Volkswagen Passat 535 208
Volkswagen Passat CC 92 60
Volkswagen Polo 294 410
Volkswagen Scirocco 84 0
Volkswagen Tiguan 506 571
Volkswagen Touareg 162 4
Volkswagen Transporter 115 191
Volkswagen Total 4,132 3,122

Change 32.4%
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The Focus having such low sales is the biggest problem IMO. I still don't think they're big enough inside and, when first released (no idea what it's like now), was just too expensive compared to other "small" cars.

Also, the inside of the Focus isn't conservative enough for a global car.
Focus is big enough inside... Its a world class car hurt by a high price point and cars with bigger warranties and more standard features....

Plus there's a big supply issue with respect to Titaniums etc with satnav etc. People are waiting for these cars!!
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Im concerned about the Falcon ute - there is nothing on the horizon in terms of product development to see its sales pickup, especially as the dedicated LPG Commodore is coming out. I would like to see RTV return - it could really re-invigorate the range.
Its surprising because the ute was always a good seller even in the AU days it held up well against the Commodore equivelant. What has changed now or is it because of the popularity of the Hilux segment?
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Im concerned about the Falcon ute - there is nothing on the horizon in terms of product development to see its sales pickup, especially as the dedicated LPG Commodore is coming out. I would like to see RTV return - it could really re-invigorate the range.
Never going to happen. Falcon ute will die before sedan the way things are going... Ford had planned this to happen with the updated ranger, they don't want Falcon ute and Ranger side by side, they only want Ranger.

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Its surprising because the ute was always a good seller even in the AU days it held up well against the Commodore equivelant. What has changed now or is it because of the popularity of the Hilux segment?
According to Ford research the number 1 complaint buyers have was lack of ground clearance, but tradies and fleets put up with it as there are other benefits of a Falcon ute. However now the imported utes drive a lot better and are faster so the buyers have moved on.

Also ute buyers want diesel which you cant get in the Falcon, and for performance they want a V8 (again not available in the Ford branded utes).
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Never going to happen. Falcon ute will die before sedan the way things are going... Ford had planned this to happen with the updated ranger, they don't want Falcon ute and Ranger side by side, they only want Ranger.

Sad really.
Personally I think the segment is massive enough to sustain Falcon ute and Ranger together side by side, they are different enough from each other to both be a useful vehicle in the range.- but I agree I think Ford will drop Falcon ute.
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By fuel type
[CODE] Passenger Private 2012 2011
Diesel 2,053 1,682
Hybrid 178 106
LPG 32 5
Petrol 23,830 24,109

Passenger Non-Private 2012 2011
Diesel 2,284 2,277
Electric 2 0
Hybrid 363 341
LPG 223 122
Petrol 17,054 16,786

SUV Private 2012 2011
Diesel 4,093 2,750
Hybrid 13 42
Petrol 8,116 6,954

SUV Non-Private 2012 2011
Diesel 4,689 3,625
Hybrid 27 24
Petrol 6,510 5,548

Light Commercial Private 2012 2011
Diesel 2,715 3,008
LPG 8 20
Petrol 937 1,111

Light Commercial Non-Private 2012 2011
Diesel 8,382 7,954
LPG 121 116
Petrol 1,795 2,366

Heavy Commercial 2012 2011
2,298 1,950

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