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Old 16-05-2018, 09:15 PM   #1
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Default Mustang New and Improved ! Now with 3 star ANCAP safety rating

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By DANIEL DeGASPERI
THE Australasian New Car Assessment
Program (ANCAP) will not retest the
Ford Mustang following its shock two star
safety result, despite an update to
airbag deployment and active safety
features that crippled its score.
Instead, the vehicle safety watchdog
will revise the Ford sportscar’s score
to three stars in light of the updates.
Sales of the Ford Mustang have
remained unaffected by the twostar
ANCAP result handed down in
December 2015, and it continues to be
Australia’s top-selling sportscar as it
heads towards a mid-year switch to a
facelifted model.
The original test score raised
questions not only directed towards
Ford, but also ANCAP owing to a
testing procedure that had changed
significantly.
While 2+2 coupes would now be
tested for back-seat performance,
despite the Toyota 86 among others
having not been tested with rear child
seats, the top overall score could also
be no higher than the lowest score of
four criteria (occupant protection front,
rear, pedestrian and active safety).
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Old 17-05-2018, 02:52 PM   #2
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Default Re: Mustang New and Improved ! Now with 3 star ANCAP safety rating

At least ANCAP admitted it would be a 5 star car if it wasn't for the rear seats.

Such hypocrisy that no other 2+2 coupes have ever been tested though.
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Old 17-05-2018, 03:12 PM   #3
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At least ANCAP admitted it would be a 5 star car if it wasn't for the rear seats.

Such hypocrisy that no other 2+2 coupes have ever been tested though.
I agree. However, wasn’t one reason for the low score that the front seat passengers head hit either the dash or the pillar?
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Old 17-05-2018, 03:49 PM   #4
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I agree. However, wasn’t one reason for the low score that the front seat passengers head hit either the dash or the pillar?
That's not uncommon and the frontal score was still good. But Ford have fixed that too and wanted it re-tested, but ancap said no for some reason
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That's not uncommon and the frontal score was still good. But Ford have fixed that too and wanted it re-tested, but ancap said no for some reason
Perhaps Ford should make it known that they wanted a re test but were refused.

Or did Ancap need John Cardigan's (sp) permission first
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Old 17-05-2018, 05:18 PM   #6
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Perhaps Ford should make it known that they wanted a re test but were refused.

Or did Ancap need John Cardigan's (sp) permission first
Haha don't spose they care, with amount they are selling to worry about Ancap joke.
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Old 17-05-2018, 05:20 PM   #7
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Haha don't spose they care, with amount they are selling to worry about Ancap joke.
Well its probably good. Likely it stops those people who need a flashing light and a ding ding sound to remind them to put their seatbelt on from buying one.
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Old 17-05-2018, 08:36 PM   #8
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At least ANCAP admitted it would be a 5 star car if it wasn't for the rear seats.

Such hypocrisy that no other 2+2 coupes have ever been tested though.
Smells like a drive to get the federal funding that they needed to avoid slipping into oblivion.

ANCAP is obsolete, just use overseas ratings and save tax payers money.
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Old 17-05-2018, 11:37 PM   #9
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Smells like a drive to get the federal funding that they needed to avoid slipping into oblivion.

ANCAP is obsolete, just use overseas ratings and save tax payers money.

They already do...Mustang was tested by Euro NCAP.

ANCAP use Euro NCAP ratings, cars don't need to best tested here anymore.
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Why are cars/vehicles even allowed to be built with lousey ratings. Or why does our government allow them into the country?

oh thats right they get nice boneses
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Mustang received 5 stars in its native homeland...
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ANCAP accepted the overseas test for the new commodore but would not accept the overseas test for the mustang. They are just trying to be noticed.
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Why are cars/vehicles even allowed to be built with lousey ratings. Or why does our government allow them into the country?

oh thats right they get nice boneses
What’s a boneses ?
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Old 18-05-2018, 11:23 AM   #15
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They already do...Mustang was tested by Euro NCAP.

ANCAP use Euro NCAP ratings, cars don't need to best tested here anymore.
So get rid of the dope running ANCAP then.
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Old 18-05-2018, 11:36 AM   #16
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Default Re: Mustang New and Improved ! Now with 3 star ANCAP safety rating

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Mustang received 5 stars in its native homeland...
different testing regimes.

3 star ANCAP to the 2018 ratings is equivalent to 5 star or more in the 'old' rating system. It only looks poor because very few cars have been assessed to the 2018 criteria

I do think all manufacturers have been very poor about communicating this change to buyers
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At the end of the day you either want a Mustang or you don't. Three stars or five wouldn't sway me.
Pretty sure a FGX wouldn't get 5 stars if tested in 2018
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What will you say when your precious Camaro get's 2-3 stars?
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What’s a boneses ?

I assume two (or more) of them.
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Yep.

Thats average for its category.

If you bothered to do a bit of research, you would find:

2015 BMW Z4 ***
2015 Mazda MX-5 ****
2015 Audi TT ****

Now, those cars all had high scores on the passenger/child side, none had rear seat passengers to affect the score...plus, they were tested under old NCAP rules...

Mustang actually scored higher in driver protection over the Z4.
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Mustang actually scored higher in driver protection over the Z4.
And FG - FGX Falcon
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That’s correct.

If people bothered to compare the actual crash test results they would see Mustang performed very well with lower HIC (Head Injury Criterion) than many cars rated 5 Stars under the old testing regime.

This was just a beatup at the time and the chairman of ANCAP should be ashamed of himself.




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Thats average for its category.

If you bothered to do a bit of research, you would find:

2015 BMW Z4 ***
2015 Mazda MX-5 ****
2015 Audi TT ****

Now, those cars all had high scores on the passenger/child side, none had rear seat passengers to affect the score...plus, they were tested under old NCAP rules...

Mustang actually scored higher in driver protection over the Z4.
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I think its more than one bone
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Not sure this issue bothers anyone except those with no intention of buying one.
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What will you say when your precious Camaro get's 2-3 stars?
Don't waste your energy even asking...
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One thing's for certain .. Even if she got a max 5 star Cadogen would still find something to whinge about , and most other brands too ...with one obvious exception of course .
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Still only three stars

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“Improvements have been made to the Mustang’s safety assist features as well as tuning to restraint systems,” ANCAP chief executive James Goodwin said. “Structurally however, the revised Ford Mustang is identical to the Mustang we originally rated, meaning it still
falls short of our expectations in the areas of adult occupant and child occupant protection.”

Goodwin said that while the inclusion of driver assistance systems such as AEB and lane keep assist were “a definite step in the right direction”, the improvements to the Mustang had “neglected to address the injury risk posed to rear seat occupants as well as whiplash
Protection”.

Read next: Ford Mustang V8 scores ‘poor’ 2-star safety rating

A two-star crash safety rating still applies to Mustangs built between December 2015 and December 2017.

According to the EuroNCAP test results, the Mustang still offered generally poor rear-seat protection in a head-on collision after the crash-test dummy “submarined”, slipping under the lap section of a seatbelt that exerted “an excessively high tensile force in the test” that could also induce chest injuries.

While the ANCAP rating applies to all four-cylinder and V8-engined fastback versions of the Mustang, the convertible version remains unrated.

Ford Australia said the Mustang was a safe car. “We are committed to continued improvement in vehicle safety and have taken action and updated several systems on the MY2018 model,” a spokesperson said.
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Just dont be a rear passenger in a mustang.

And dont crash. Because you dont have your own door to get out.
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Just dont be a rear passenger in a mustang.

And dont crash. Because you dont have your own door to get out.
Drop top mustang ftw. At least one could leap out if they had quick reflexes
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I had a Mach 1 for nearly 20 years as a daily driver. Nobody ever rode in the back seat.
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