Turbo or V8 into XY? - Page 2

4Vman · 19-11-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TomXY

my mind isnt made up yet, i just wanted to see how many people i would annoy if i did decide to go turbo. I wanted to get ideas of which would be cheaper, more reliable, better economy, more powerful ect.

Obviously arguing with ignorant 40 year olds is going to give me more inspiration.

No argument from me! im happy cruising around in my boring old 351 powered XYGT and seeing all the "boom tish" brigade race off and try to drag me..
I get more satisfaction just sitting back and cruising around relaxing and enjoying my car than those insecure guys worried about how fast their car goes just to maintain "street cred"...
Which XY will get the more looks? the one with the tough V8 rumble or the one going "boom tish"...

P.S hey, im not 40 yet!!!

TEaaron · 19-11-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

No argument from me! im happy cruising around in my boring old 351 powered XYGT and seeing all the "boom tish" brigade race off and try to drag me..
I get more satisfaction just sitting back and cruising around relaxing and enjoying my car than those insecure guys worried about how fast their car goes just to maintain "street cred"...
Which XY will get the more looks? the one with the tough V8 rumble or the one going "boom tish"...

P.S hey, im not 40 yet!!!

Lol the one going "boom tish" will get 10 times more looks than the XY with a clevo.

4Vman · 19-11-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TEaaron

Lol the one going "boom tish" will get 10 times more looks than the XY with a clevo.

that's a good point, lots of puzzled looks!

TomXY · 19-11-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Which XY will get the more looks? the one with the tough V8 rumble or the one going "boom tish"...

I would bet money on the Metallic bright Blue XY sitting on 19" chrome 5 spokes, with the vrrrrrr tut tut tut, rather the original GT people see at every show with a 351 like every other xy.

Like i said, its something unique people arnt used to seeing, of course it will get more looks.

4Vman · 19-11-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TomXY

I would bet money on the Metallic bright Blue XY sitting on 19" chrome 5 spokes, with the vrrrrrr tut tut tut, rather the original GT people see at every show with a 351 like every other xy.

Like i said, its something unique people arnt used to seeing, of course it will get more looks.

Well one things for sure, you'll get lots of looks and comments... not sure you'll like all of them though..
Either way good luck with the project, build what ever floats your boat, after all its only you who has to like it and enjoy it!

TomXY · 19-11-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Well one things for sure, you'll get lots of looks and comments... not sure you'll like all of them though..
Either way good luck with the project, build what ever floats your boat, after all its only you who has to like it and enjoy it!

just out of curiousity what do you think you would yell at it?

4Vman · 19-11-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TomXY

just out of curiousity what do you think you would yell at it?

Nothing.. im not rude enough (nore interested enough) to yell things at other peoples cars... (remember im nearly 40!) I might have a bit of a giggle though! :Reverend:

**Polyal** · 19-11-2007, 05:50 PM

TOMXY, did your parents forget you at kindy and your on the staff PC? Do us a favour and do the 6T and impress your friends.

TomXY · 19-11-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

I might have a bit of a giggle though! :Reverend:

come on, its not like i would be driving a lancer or something similar. Its still going to be a tough looking xy, with 500hp.

TomXY · 19-11-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

TOMXY, did your parents forget you at kindy and your on the staff PC? Do us a favour and do the 6T and impress your friends.

ha..ha...............
nice comeback.

**Polyal** · 19-11-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TomXY

ha..ha...............
nice comeback.

To what? You know you want to do the 6T, so do it and get 500HP like you say you can. If it is an original 6 and you want it to stay that way you have little choice.

Ive got a 302, its not that quick but thats waaay down on my care list.

XCSEDAN · 19-11-2007, 05:55 PM

personally, i'd do a hot v8 (preferably supercharged), that is because, i find with turbo cars, the torque builds up to a point, holds, then drops off and generally they aren't as nice to drive (throttle response, crusabililty etc) where as a hot v8, the torque builds up in a more natural way (both NA and supercharged) because its a mechanical build up not nuematic (i dont think that's spelt right).

while a turbo 6 would be really nice to see under the bonnet, i just dont think it would be as nice to drive, but if you do go the turbo route, go a BA/BF motor. SO much nicer then all the older motors its not funny.

just my opinion mate so do what you want the most

4Vman · 19-11-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TomXY

come on, its not like i would be driving a lancer or something similar. Its still going to be a tough looking xy, with 500hp.

Its a generational thing.. it could have 1000hp and it wouldnt matter, "19's and boom tish" should never be mixed with "XY".. IMHO.
I will never be able to get my head around massive wheels on old pre 80's falcons let alone a 6T under the bonnet.......
Just personal opinion of course.

TEaaron · 19-11-2007, 05:56 PM

Yeah I agree with 4v man here.

It's wrong to be different.

banarcus · 19-11-2007, 05:56 PM

The younger generation and their need to not only have the last say, but also their yearning for affamation. Do what ever makes you happy mate, there's no need to worry what others will think of a XY that sounds a little 'different'

TomXY · 19-11-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Ive got a 302, its not that quick but thats waaay down on my care list.

so you care more that its loud enough and uses enough fuel to make people think its quick?

**Polyal** · 19-11-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Its a generational thing.. it could have 1000hp and it wouldnt matter, "19's and boom tish" should never be mixed with "XY".. IMHO.
I will never get my head around massive wheels on old pre 80's falcons let alone a 6T under the bonnet.......
Just personal opinion of course.

Like above, a BA I6T would be nice, Im a fan of retro for sure. But a xflow turbo instead of a Clevo is madness.

I too cant stand big chromies on old school cars; reminds me of those cheap and nasty Jada Models on ebay. Like below.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1967-Shelby-M...QQcmdZViewItem

Nice car, gay wheels.

**Polyal** · 19-11-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TomXY

so you care more that its loud enough and uses enough fuel to make people think its quick?

LOL...see this is where you are wrong. I dont care what some thinks of my car. I know its quick and I dont flog it around trying to prove it.

I also dont care about fuel, or I would have brought a laser.

4Vman · 19-11-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by banarcus

The younger generation and their need to not only have the last say, but also their yearning for affamation. Do what ever makes you happy mate, there's no need to worry what others will think of a XY that sounds a little 'different'

Yes...i guess it depends on why he's building it, If he's building it for personal satisfaction then he should build whatever he wants, but if he's building it for acceptance and overwhelming "adulation from the majority of fans" i think the results of the poll tell the story...

xrfranjo · 19-11-2007, 06:02 PM

The heart is never wrong....... with a legend like that needs a legend ground rumbling V8... dont mix and match like some idiot in wollongong... i think it was a LJ torry with a 13b chook cooker in it.....

TomXY · 19-11-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xrfranjo

The heart is never wrong....... with a legend like that needs a legend ground rumbling V8... dont mix and match like some idiot in wollongong... i think it was a LJ torry with a 13b chook cooker in it.....

I dunno if your calling me a legend, or calling me an idiot.
I hope your not comparing a torquey 4L turbo with a rotor.

FORD3V · 19-11-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Its a generational thing.. it could have 1000hp and it wouldnt matter, "19's and boom tish" should never be mixed with "XY".. IMHO.
I will never be able to get my head around massive wheels on old pre 80's falcons let alone a 6T under the bonnet.......
Just personal opinion of course.

It's not a generational thing, it is a taste thing,I am in my early 20's and the whole turbo and 19's thing makes me feel sick,particularly on a XY,in my opinion a vl is more suited to gimmick's like 19 inch wheels and vl's can keep the turbo aswell, because xy's certainly shouldnt have them.

Tomxy,do you want a muscle car or a ricer????

Make up your mind, because if you want a turbo and 19's dont wreck an xy in the process.

TomXY · 19-11-2007, 06:12 PM

in xy can never be a ricer? its made as a muscle car, and cant be changed to a ricer (japenese 4cyl).

I dont understand how changing the motor and wheels to something more modern is wrecking the car?

TEaaron · 19-11-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FORD3V

It's not a generational thing, it is a taste thing,I am in my early 20's and the whole turbo and 19's thing makes me feel sick,particularly on a XY,in my opinion a vl is more suited to gimmick's like 19 inch wheels and vl's can keep the turbo aswell, because xy's certainly shouldnt have them.

Tomxy,do you want a muscle car or a ricer????

Make up your mind, because if you want a turbo and 19's dont wreck an xy in the process.

Rice is a car with the appearance of speed.

A 4L turbo with 500hp would eat a N/A 500hp clevo anyday.

and unless he's drilling in a big aluminium spoiler into the boot and duct taping on some side skirts he aint wrecking anything.

**Falcon Coupe** · 19-11-2007, 06:30 PM

I'm wondering if those suggesting a turbo 351 have ever been in a stout n/a Clevo.
Why turbo something that already makes more power than can be used on the street ?

FORD3V · 19-11-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TomXY

in xy can never be a ricer? its made as a muscle car, and cant be changed to a ricer (japenese 4cyl).

I dont understand how changing the motor and wheels to something more modern is wrecking the car?

No it is never going to be a ricer,but stupidly big wheels and turbo's are usually found on ricers,jap c#%p,vl's etc, and in my opinion have no place on an xy.

I have lost count how many time's I have been out cruising in my XW (302) or BA (3V V8) and some loser yells out get a turbo..................

The two shouldnt be mixed.

4Vman · 19-11-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I'm wondering if those suggesting a turbo 351 have ever been in a stout n/a Clevo.
Why turbo something that already makes more power than can be used on the street ?

Exactly.. a N/A 351 making a genuine 500hp in an XY would be an 11 second car all day and have manners to boot... so i can't see the need for a turbo on a cleveland in a street driven car anyway.

TEaaron · 19-11-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FORD3V

No it is never going to be a ricer,but stupidly big wheels and turbo's are usually found on ricers,jap c#%p,vl's etc, and in my opinion have no place on an xy.

I have lost count how many time's I have been out cruising in my XW (302) or BA (3V V8) and some loser yells out get a turbo..................

The two shouldnt be mixed.

Crap VL's? I've seen street VL turbo's running high 8's - low 9's, what does your 302 run?

**Polyal** · 19-11-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TEaaron

A 4L turbo with 500hp would eat a N/A 500hp clevo anyday.

Well all things being equal it should be a pretty close race...LOL

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Originally Posted by TEaaron

Crap VL's? I've seen street VL turbo's running high 8's - low 9's, what does your 302 run?

Ah VL lover, well we are obviously not going to sway you. Just do the turbo if you want, but everyone will say "should have gone an 8".

Agreed with the above aswell, there is only so much you need for a daily.

FORD3V · 19-11-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TEaaron

Crap VL's? I've seen street VL turbo's running high 8's - low 9's, what does your 302 run?

When did I say turbo's are slow???? I merely said that in MY opinion they dont suit xy's.

View Poll Results: What engine would you rather in an XY?
351, worked, 500hp	98	62.82%
turbo 4L OHC, 500hp	41	26.28%
other: please specify	17	10.90%
Voters: 156. You may not vote on this poll