au series 1 and 2/3 difference

ecksar 6 · 26-10-2007, 10:24 PM

any1 ere know why series 2/3 body parts wont fit on series 1 au falcons? it would obviously have something to do with the general structure and/or hows its mounted, but any1 know exactly what?

Smoke Pursuit · 26-10-2007, 10:26 PM

What do u mean, all parts are carry over between the models, theres just different parts for different levels, eg Fairmont has different bonnet to XR, but they both fit providing you have the front bar and headlights to match. The doors, roof / rear / guards are the same, its just the front.

The Monty · 26-10-2007, 10:46 PM

Everything should fit bar the brakes, and some of the suspension parts, and obviously some dash switches and stuff, but trims, panels and everything else was the same.

MNM96 · 27-10-2007, 07:53 AM

The Engine Electronics were different as AU1 used gear from the EL, where the AUII used new stuff. The brakes were EL and smaller than AUII. The Bonnet and Grill (several times) were different, and front bar on the XR's.

Just the Electronics and brakes would be enough to stop ma considering a SerI. The major changes to SerIII were cosmetic, really refining what was a pretty good package.
SerIII got clear side indicators, Side skirts, ABS, colour coded mirrors, all standard, as well as better firewall paneling to dampen engine noises into the cabin.

All panels are interchangeable model to model. Even the brakes are, if changed as a unit. (You can't put SerII rotors with SerI callipers.

What prompted your question???

Mike

LeadFoot81 · 27-10-2007, 04:59 PM

Laminated steel firewall was added from series 2 onwards.

The Monty · 27-10-2007, 05:18 PM

The stuff that was all just mentioned is all available (bar brakes) on higher spec model. Ie, the fairmont has ABS, Cruise, "high" series bonnet, clear indicators, and what people always refer to as series 2 tail lights, but if people looked, it was available on series ones.

Cespenar · 05-11-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

The stuff that was all just mentioned is all available (bar brakes) on higher spec model. Ie, the fairmont has ABS, Cruise, "high" series bonnet, clear indicators, and what people always refer to as series 2 tail lights, but if people looked, it was available on series ones.

Hi Monty, (If you get to read this)
I have a 1/99 au Ghia.
All the brake upgrades seem to be an expensive change to with stubs etc.
Is it possible to put twin pot calipers on the series one, or do I have to do a complete upgrade. (about $1200)
Regards from Mike.

FGII-XR6 · 05-11-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

The stuff that was all just mentioned is all available (bar brakes) on higher spec model.

and the electronics the S2 got the smartshield immobiliser and the BEM/ECU combination is different. it is not just a matter of changing callipers and rotors either you need to change stub axles lower control arms and stabiliser bar to upgrade the brakes

The Monty · 05-11-2007, 03:14 PM

It is a pretty full on job, I just use dba slotteds and bendix pads, and although it stops "ok" its not the best, and they are constantly warping.

sly · 05-11-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

and the electronics the S2 got the smartshield immobiliser and the BEM/ECU combination is different. it is not just a matter of changing callipers and rotors either you need to change stub axles lower control arms and stabiliser bar to upgrade the brakes

Smartshield was introduced as a running change to Series 1 production in May 1999, IIRC the same time that power front windows and height-adjustable seatbelts were made standard in the Forte. Series 1 cars thus fitted have a "Smartshield" sticker in the fixed pane of the rear passenger's door.

Some members have upgraded their brakes using the original lower control arms drilled to accept an EB sway bar (still need to change stub axles), info is in the "BA Brakes onto AU" sticky. Another option (rare) is to pick up Premium series 1 front rotors & calipers, someone had a set on ebay a couple of months ago. These will fit onto the s1 suspension.

FGII-XR6 · 05-11-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sly

Some members have upgraded their brakes using the original lower control arms drilled to accept an EB sway bar (still need to change stub axles),

Do they wear a striped apron when they do it

sounds a bit rough to me especially when the AU2 parts bolt straight up

StealthAu · 05-11-2007, 08:05 PM

so does the eb swaybar

sly · 05-11-2007, 10:05 PM

Any parts left over get made into sausages

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fourl6 · 06-11-2007, 11:31 PM

correct me if im wrong but i didn't think the xr series 1 rear bar add on thing (apron) fits on S2,3 rear bars

Cespenar · 08-11-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cespenar

Hi Monty, (If you get to read this)
I have a 1/99 au Ghia.
All the brake upgrades seem to be an expensive change to with stubs etc.
Is it possible to put twin pot calipers on the series one, or do I have to do a complete upgrade. (about $1200)
Regards from Mike.

Don't worry. I already found out.

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FGII-XR6 · 08-11-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sly

Any parts left over get made into sausages

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well they say iron in the diet is essential

AUXR6WAGON · 04-04-2018, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MNM96

The Engine Electronics were different as AU1 used gear from the EL, where the AUII used new stuff. The brakes were EL and smaller than AUII. The Bonnet and Grill (several times) were different, and front bar on the XR's.

Just the Electronics and brakes would be enough to stop ma considering a SerI. The major changes to SerIII were cosmetic, really refining what was a pretty good package.
SerIII got clear side indicators, Side skirts, ABS, colour coded mirrors, all standard, as well as better firewall paneling to dampen engine noises into the cabin.

All panels are interchangeable model to model. Even the brakes are, if changed as a unit. (You can't put SerII rotors with SerI callipers.

What prompted your question???

Mike

Gday, sorry to open an old thread up. Just wondering if 12 slotters will fit on a series 1?

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Maka · 05-04-2018, 12:43 AM

Hi & welcome to AFF! The old school 12 slot mags? Nope afaik, i could be wrong but different offset unfortunately.

cheers, Maka

AUXR6WAGON · 05-04-2018, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Maka

Hi & welcome to AFF! The old school 12 slot mags? Nope afaik, i could be wrong but different offset unfortunately.

cheers, Maka

This is my mates one here..

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Maka · 05-04-2018, 01:01 AM

Yeah nice Futura, i used to have one lol. Are those mags chaser style stock wheels or proper old school 12 slotters?

cheers, Maka

AUXR6WAGON · 05-04-2018, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maka

Yeah nice Futura, i used to have one lol. Are those mags chaser style stock wheels or proper old school 12 slotters?

cheers, Maka

He reckons they're slotters. Apparently au series 1 brakes are smaller?

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