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Old 10-01-2017, 07:34 PM   #1
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Default EF/EL Brake upgrade options

Hi Matt,

What slotted rotors and upgraded pads are available for an EF/EL?
(retaining the standard calipers)

A couple of yrs back, I fitted a set of DBA4132SL/SR and DBA4133SL/SR heat treated rotors to my EL wagon, and they've been awesome.
Just fantastic!
They're up to 30,000km and not a hint of warping.
I'm running Bendix Ultimates with those rotors.

I have a second wagon (EF Fairmont), which needs to receive the same brake upgrade.
Maybe with some QFM pads this time though.

What is available out there?
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:37 PM   #2
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Default Re: EF/EL Brake upgrade options

On my XR6 Wagon I run the DBA T2 slotted rotors and the QFM HPX pads both front and rear. I've had always tended to use the Greenstuff pads in the past but thought their price was getting a bit high - changed to the QFM and I've really liked the gripping / stopping feel. I'm not a heavy braker as I tend to use the manual to slow the car as well but it pulls up well with very little dust as well.

I'll probably do the same when my FG needs the brakes done too.
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Old 22-02-2017, 01:30 PM   #3
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Default Re: EF/EL Brake upgrade options

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Hi Matt,

What slotted rotors and upgraded pads are available for an EF/EL?
(retaining the standard calipers)

A couple of yrs back, I fitted a set of DBA4132SL/SR and DBA4133SL/SR heat treated rotors to my EL wagon, and they've been awesome.
Just fantastic!
They're up to 30,000km and not a hint of warping.
I'm running Bendix Ultimates with those rotors.

I have a second wagon (EF Fairmont), which needs to receive the same brake upgrade.
Maybe with some QFM pads this time though.

What is available out there?
Not sure why i haven't responded or even seen this sorry. You could run the same combo on this for sure.
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Old 22-02-2017, 09:33 PM   #4
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Default Re: EF/EL Brake upgrade options

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Not sure why i haven't responded or even seen this sorry. You could run the same combo on this for sure.
No worries mate.

Do you have any of those DBA4000 series heat treated rotors in stock?
(4132SL/SR and 4133SL/SR)?

If so, I'd be keen to organise something.
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Old 23-02-2017, 09:56 AM   #5
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No worries mate.

Do you have any of those DBA4000 series heat treated rotors in stock?
(4132SL/SR and 4133SL/SR)?

If so, I'd be keen to organise something.
Problem is they do not do the T3 DBA4000 anymore sorry just the T2.
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Old 23-02-2017, 07:55 PM   #6
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Problem is they do not do the T3 DBA4000 anymore sorry just the T2.
The non-heat treated rotors yeah?
I guess they'd have to be old stock from somewhere.

Apparently DBA will do a run of the new sort, but there's a minimum order quantity, of 25pairs.
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Old 24-02-2017, 09:23 AM   #7
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The non-heat treated rotors yeah?
I guess they'd have to be old stock from somewhere.

Apparently DBA will do a run of the new sort, but there's a minimum order quantity, of 25pairs.
I don't know if its old stock but yes we have to order 25 pair to get them in and thats a big outlay so you would have to have them pre sold first.
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Default Re: EF/EL Brake upgrade options

Yeah, definitely a big outlay.
So what are the options for better than standard, using the factory brake hardware?

T2's and a decent set of pads?

What are the non-heat treated T2's worth?
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:53 PM   #9
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Yeah, definitely a big outlay.
So what are the options for better than standard, using the factory brake hardware?

T2's and a decent set of pads?

What are the non-heat treated T2's worth?
Yes that would be it i can quote them up if you like. Is it front and rear or just front?
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Default Re: EF/EL Brake upgrade options

What are the pad options?
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Old 15-03-2017, 12:39 PM   #11
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What are the pad options?
There are a couple of options but not many. What is the car going to be used for?
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Default Re: EF/EL Brake upgrade options

Lets go with spirited street use.
Definitely not track days.

I'm not too worried about pad life.

I'm interested in pads that bite hard from cold, and can sustain reasonable repeated hard braking.

The combo on my EL wagon, is those DBA 4000 series heat treated rotors,
plus Bendix Ultimate pads.
The pads are about 1/3 worn in 30,000km, but have also eaten the rotor a bit.

Even with the brake upgrade, the braking response on the above EL, is not all that confidence inspiring, not without significant pedal effort.
The brake upgrade included new genuine ford/PBR front calipers, slides etc. (not rebuilt)

The EF wagon I also own, has a markedly better pedal feel and braking response, (even BEFORE the below upgrades) but has extended pedal travel, which takes some getting used to.

The EF got a similar treatment to the EL - DBA (non heat treated) slotted rotors, QFM HPX pads and I rebuilt the original front calipers with new genuine PBR pistons, and genuine Ford/PBR seals etc.
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Old 16-03-2017, 05:01 PM   #13
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Lets go with spirited street use.
Definitely not track days.

I'm not too worried about pad life.

I'm interested in pads that bite hard from cold, and can sustain reasonable repeated hard braking.

The combo on my EL wagon, is those DBA 4000 series heat treated rotors,
plus Bendix Ultimate pads.
The pads are about 1/3 worn in 30,000km, but have also eaten the rotor a bit.

Even with the brake upgrade, the braking response on the above EL, is not all that confidence inspiring, not without significant pedal effort.
The brake upgrade included new genuine ford/PBR front calipers, slides etc. (not rebuilt)

The EF wagon I also own, has a markedly better pedal feel and braking response, (even BEFORE the below upgrades) but has extended pedal travel, which takes some getting used to.

The EF got a similar treatment to the EL - DBA (non heat treated) slotted rotors, QFM HPX pads and I rebuilt the original front calipers with new genuine PBR pistons, and genuine Ford/PBR seals etc.

The rotors are $260 a pair for the front in the T2 and we should be able to get some HPX pads for about $90. Freight is extra
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Default Re: EF/EL Brake upgrade options

Hey guys,

I have an EB XR8 with a 5.6 litre stroker T Series engine. The car is fitted with EL stub axels. What brake caliper kit would you all recommend ?

Thanks 🙏
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I have an EB XR8 with a 5.6 litre stroker T Series engine. The car is fitted with EL stub axels. What brake caliper kit would you all recommend ?

Thanks 🙏
These kits have to be custom made with your stub axles and start from $2800
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Hi Matt,

I also have a EL Wagon 6 cyc and would like the same or similar brake upgrade including the pads for the front. I have always been happy with the brakes I get from Race Brakes.
Can you please provide a price and lead time.

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I also have a EL Wagon 6 cyc and would like the same or similar brake upgrade including the pads for the front. I have always been happy with the brakes I get from Race Brakes.
Can you please provide a price and lead time.

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Yes, Basically all the E series Fords have to have the front custom kit made because the original mounts don't work for upgrades
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Just to clarify only looking for direct replacement rotors and pads but upgrade from standard. Street use I want really good bit from cold and repeatable during heavy braking also braided brake line kit. Thank you
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Just to clarify only looking for direct replacement rotors and pads but upgrade from standard. Street use I want really good bit from cold and repeatable during heavy braking also braided brake line kit. Thank you
Should be able to find something for you. Does the EL have ABS or not ?
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Yes ABS

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EL with ABS is about $800 for DBA T2 slotted rotors and pads all round but you can get better and cheaper pads along with cheaper brand rotors if the budget isn't there. Freight is extra
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Thanks Matt, Can you please price up the better and cheaper pads and rotors.
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I will PM you
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