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Old 26-07-2018, 11:41 AM   #31
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Xr6 Turbo, created a whole new genre of home grown six cylinder performance, from humble origins, that could tackle the world’s finest and made world beating big horsepower available to average joe on a budget
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Old 26-07-2018, 02:02 PM   #32
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PACCAR's Kent and Worthington (KW) 1st to offer a diesel powered truck, 1st cabover engine truck, 1st sleeper compartmented truck.
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Old 26-07-2018, 03:02 PM   #33
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Ml1 golf. Bought design packaging and relative performance to the new two box(hatchback) segment. Golf gti bought real world performance to the same masses packaged in the same convenient, cheap body style.
MK 1 escort perhaps did performance (relative to cost) for the masses 5-6 years earlier.
Something special about both of these cars in perfecting a genre.
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Certainly the Twin Cam Escort (with Lotus engine) must have been one of the first "pocket rockets". My workmate bought a new one in 1971, they can't have been on the market long at that time.
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Old 26-07-2018, 04:16 PM   #34
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The 4x4 Willys MB jeep.

It spawned a new class of vehicle from which evolved the Land Rover and similar.

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Old 26-07-2018, 09:16 PM   #35
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Was the Torana the first car which could be bought with 4, 6 and 8 cylinder options?
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Old 27-07-2018, 11:11 AM   #36
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You might love the car, but the segment existed since the '20s
The Ford Model A had a panel van based on a sedan

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I pronounce it incorrectly as well !



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Old 27-07-2018, 11:33 AM   #38
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Little Tykes Cozy Coupe

most "peoples" first car these days..
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Old 27-07-2018, 11:35 AM   #39
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I pinched that from this list..

to 20 cars that changed the world

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/pio...nged-the-world
Land Rover Defender. For going anywhere. ...
Audi R10 TDI. For bringing diesel power to racing. ...
Toyota Prius. For starting the hybrid thing. ...
Little Tykes Cozy Coupe. For being everyone's first wheels. ...
Thrust SSC. For going faster than sound. ...
VW Beetle. ...
Bugatti Veyron. ...
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Old 27-07-2018, 01:23 PM   #40
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I know my kids had similar things around 30 years ago.

And I had a much more rusty and used one of these as a child (the chain was even rusted solid on it's cogs so I had take it off and do the Fred Flintstone car act) :

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Nah those are too hard to steer!
I don't know about now, but the Cozy Coupe was selling in excess of 500,000 units a year .
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Old 27-07-2018, 03:17 PM   #42
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something vehicle but not car related:

the old '79 Suzuki GS1000S created the way for the first superbike, the '84 GSXR750

and something more left field the Sea-al Supa Skua created the tinny rats you see on the GC canals... i see no-one knows what i just said, i'm pushing 40y/o and still have a sea-al supa skua to keep me young however i drive a little different these days
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McLaren F1 - Possibly the original hypercar and it is still the fastest N/A car ever produced (top speed 391 km/h).

Bugatti Veyron - Took speed to a whole different level at a time when nothing else was competing against it.

Mercedes G wagon (G63) - A car that is terrible both on and off road yet still such a status symbol to many.

These may have created their own sub-genres rather than a whole new segment.
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Old 27-07-2018, 05:43 PM   #44
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Amphibious vehicles,
Seems the first was invented by a Yank named Oliver Evans in 1805!
It was a steam powered vehicle, a wheeled dredging barge he called it " Orukter Amphilobos "

So this probably answers this thread perfectly under the term " genre "


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Old 27-07-2018, 05:55 PM   #45
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So now we have the Amphicar!
Manufactured in West Germany by one Hans Trippel, and first unveiled at The New York Auto Show in 1961.

It was a descendant of the Nazi WW2 VW Swimmwagen!



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Old 27-07-2018, 05:58 PM   #46
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And the last two posts bring us to the best yet, yes folks you guessed it!

The Hovercraft, a true new genre!


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Old 27-07-2018, 07:14 PM   #47
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The very first Toyota Land Cruiser was designed for Australian Conditions.
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Old 27-07-2018, 07:49 PM   #48
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OK...waaay out of left field. The humble Honda C50 and C90 posties bike. One of the most mass produced vehicles that set the standard for small bikes. I’m sure it had competitors in its day but it set the standard rather than respond. It supplies transport for millions of people, rugged, reliable and still in production in various forms. Can’t kill the things!
I’m waiting to see who is the first spelling bee bro that will say you spelt vehicule wrong.. come on boys, I know you can’t resist
In the late forties early fifties the Poms made the BSA Bantam, the Triumph Terrier, and the Royal Enfield Flying Flea but they didn't have the reliability of the small Hondas.
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Old 27-07-2018, 07:49 PM   #49
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I believe Honda's CB 750 did that about 10 years earlier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CB750

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The CB750 is included in the AMA Motorcycle Hall of Fame Classic Bikes;[8][9] was named in the Discovery Channel's "Greatest Motorbikes Ever;"[10] was in The Art of the Motorcycle exhibition,[11] and is in the UK National Motor Museum.[12] The Society of Automotive Engineers of Japan, Inc. rates the 1969 CB750 as one of the 240 Landmarks of Japanese Automotive Technology.[1]

The CB750 was the first motorcycle to be called a "superbike."[6][11]
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Hello,
You splet veeicle rong!


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I think the most relevant today is the RAV4. First saw one in 1994. Only a few years later and every manufacturer is making them. Didn’t know it back then but that was the start of the end of the sedan and wagon based cars.
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I think the WRX kicked off the hot 4s market.

It sucks what Subaru have done with it though, trying to make it more mainstream with the last model or two.

I have a MY03 so it has barely of the modern cons as they say but certainly a bit more than the first.
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What about Mitsubishi much earlier VR- 4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Galant_VR-4, Toyota's Celica GT-Four and Ford's RS2000 (and earlier RS1800) Escort
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What about Mitsubishi much earlier VR- 4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Galant_VR-4, Toyota's Celica GT-Four and Ford's RS2000 (and earlier RS1800) Escort
How many of those do you see though? Wouldn't mind a Celica GT-4 though.
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But then again there is also the liberty rs turbo that was developed by prodrive for rally and the pre cursor to the WRX. So for awd rally cars with street car variants the debate is something I'm not fully up on, but the rs turbo was around before 1994 which was when the WRX was born I think.
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I'd say a Tesla Model S/X. The X is the first all electric SUV and S was the first super sedan. They have taken Electric cars from being a niche obscurity to something that all the big players are playing catch up to.
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Well you said vehicle so Versatile that was the first company to mass-produce large articulated four-wheel drive tractors, starting in 1966 with the D100 and G100 four-wheel drives. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLypQ3Z92Oc and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versatile_(company) But some will claim the Steiger albeit not articulated was the first tractor of this genre with brothers, Doug and Maurice Steiger, built the first Steiger in their Thief River Falls, Minnesota dairy barn, during the winter of 1957-58. But it seems Wagner had an even earlier claim http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Wagner and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX-gFeoTAlI
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Was beaten to the Punch by the GTR XU1 Torana's, E38/49 Valiants. Hell even the Original S XR6 in the 90's...
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What about Mitsubishi much earlier VR- 4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Galant_VR-4, Toyota's Celica GT-Four and Ford's RS2000 (and earlier RS1800) Escort
What about the 1963 DOHC Lotus Cortina one of the fastest 4 seater 4cyl saloon cars at the time.
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