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Old 05-12-2011, 12:55 PM   #1
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http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/f...205-1oe40.html

Ford’s new EcoBoost Falcon may have two fewer cylinders than its six-cylinder brethren, but it’s lacking nothing in performance.

For a while there, it looked like Queensland would never win a Sheffield Shield. But a few years ago, that changed.

The smart money also suggested that our Stateside friends would never elect an Afro-American to the office of president. Wrong again.

And for my part, I would have bet real money that I’d never be sitting in the driver’s seat of a four-cylinder Ford Falcon. And yet, here I am.

Advertisement: Story continues below Never say never, it seems.

Australian Falcons and big capacity six-cylinder engines go together like beer and eskies. Always have.

But in an attempt to offer its customers a Falcon with improved fuel economy and regain some lost sales, Ford Australia has –in a nutshell - taken the turbocharged four-cylinder engine from the Mondeo EcoBoost and slotted it into the FG Falcon’s cavernous engine bay.

See more details of the new Ford Falcon four-cylinder EcoBoost.

No technical details have been forthcoming, but in Mondeo EcoBoost form, the 2.0-litre engine pushes out 149kW of power and 300Nm of torque, good numbers in themselves, but down on the 195kW and 391Nm respectively of the traditional, six-cylinder-powered version of the Falcon.

In the Volvo S60, the same turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder produces 177kW and 320Nm, which is close to where we’re expecting the Falcon. It makes sense from a marketing perspective – there’s more than the Mondeo EcoBoost but less than the bread-and-butter of the Falcon world, the inline six-cylinder that’s twice its size.

That said, the seat of the pants suggests a power figure closer to 170kW for the four-cylinder engine in the Falcon Ecoboost.

And let’s not forget that the AU Falcon of 1998 boasted a power figure of just 157kW, and nobody ever complained that that car was underpowered.

But more importantly than just numbers, how does the four-cylinder Falcon EcoBoost feel to drive?

Just sitting in the car with the engine running is an exercise in altered perceptions. Revving the engine reveals a fairly refined powerplant, but one that is identifiably missing a couple of cylinders. It’s not quite as dramatic as watching a grown man with a toddler’s voice, but it’s still a bit mind-altering.

With the six-speed automatic transmission offering a little slip to mask a tiny bit of turbo-lag off idle, the four-cylinder Falcon steps off the mark quite well.

It revs up with enthusiasm, too, although the last 1000rpm or so feel a bit hard to come by. Again, this is not uncommon with turbocharged powerplants, which often produce their best at low or middle engine revs – where most people use them most of the time.

But what is impressive is the engine’s mid-range punch which gives the sort of relaxed progress that has been a major characteristic of all Falcons over the years.

Against the stop-watch (but not as scientific as tailored testing equipment) the Ecoboost Falcon doesn’t appear to give much away to its six-cylinder stalemate.

A 0 to 100km/h dash in the six-cylinder FG Falcon of 7.1 seconds was almost matched by the 7.6 of the EcoBoost car.

The best news is that the Ecoboost Falcon has shed about 60kg and this shows up as a much more talkative, entertaining front end.

The Ecoboost not only steers more accurately and naturally, it wants you to know it as well.

The bottom line is that the biggest hurdle for the Ecoboost Falcon will be a cultural one, not an actual product limitation.

Ford is still being very tight-lipped on pricing and while it’s tempting to think the Ecoboost Falcon will be the entry-level car, previous suggestions have been that it would actually carry a price premium. In other markets, the EcoBoost variants of certain Ford models are actually marketed as premium products and priced accordingly.

However, Ford is understood to be stepping away from this, accepting the fact that Australians generally don’t like paying more for fewer cylinders.

Best guesstimates – and a nod and a wink from Ford insiders - have the Falcon EcoBoost being priced at the same price as the six-cylinder versions it will sell alongside; the Falcon four-cylinder EcoBoost wll be available as an entry-level XT, G6 and flagship, leather-clad G6E.

The Ecoboost Falcon’s launch date has been delayed since the model was announced, but look for it early in 2012.

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Old 05-12-2011, 12:57 PM   #2
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A video would have been good.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:59 PM   #3
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Sounds promising!

I like that they're comparing to the AU's power output because it'll put the lack of (paper written) power into perspective - and that it's not that bad.

Keen on pricing info/power figures!
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Sounds very impressive! Excellent acceleration figures.
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:18 PM   #5
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good positive review by drive.

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Mmmm... FG2 XT looks good too.... Set of super low king springs and it would be a nice car!!
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Thats a good add, some people will flip out when they see how much room is in there...eccchoooo
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Mmmm... FG2 XT looks good too.... Set of super low king springs and it would be a nice car!!
....and some nice 18 or 19 inch wheels, would make a sweet cruiser. Also tick the $500 8" colour ICC option.
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Could it produce a new breed of turbo modding enthusiasts? I don't know. My guess is possibly but only to a limit. It won't be anything near a 6T, but could end up scaring a few n/a 6cyl owners with a tune etc.
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Could it produce a new breed of turbo modding enthusiasts? I don't know. My guess is possibly but only to a limit. It won't be anything near a 6T, but could end up scaring a few n/a 6cyl owners with a tune etc.
might become the new fj or sr20.
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might become the new fj or sr20.
Without a XR or Zetec versions, I doubt it will get that kind of reputation. But you never know...
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Is it RWD or FWD now?
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might become the new fj or sr20.
Not is a lardass falcon body..cant see it happening. People will mod anything, look at the fail thread, but the target market IMO could not give two hoots about tune-ability.
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Not is a lardass falcon body..cant see it happening. People will mod anything, look at the fail thread, but the target market IMO could not give two hoots about tune-ability.
Do you think modding something like that would be considered too 'try hard' or lame especially to the 6T boys? I'm not sure but I think it could breed a small onset of budget modder's out there that want both a bit of performance but also maintain pretty good economy when needed. You are probably right about the target market though. Most will just think why bother, when you get a stock 6T and it will blow the doors off it. I guess time will tell if this works to Ford's advantage or it's a fail.
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Without a XR or Zetec versions, I doubt it will get that kind of reputation. But you never know...
i reckon it would slot into the engine bay of an eski quite well... or cortina...


i wonder how it will compare with ecoLPi? obviously it will be slightly down in the power stakes, but being turbo charged, more power is generally fairly easily achieved. economy should be a close run thing with the loss of about 60kg.
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Now Ford need to get an exemption for P platers for this vehicle as it is not a "performance car".

That may help increase sales into both the private and fleet sectors.
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Is it RWD or FWD now?
Take a wild guess...

I've been following the progress of the EcoBoost Falcon since 2008, and for a while, I was worried that it wouldn't fly. It will. This is not a Starfire Commodore. This is a throughly modern power plant, and will actually offer real world fuel savings that the 3.0 Commodore can't. Fortunately, they will actually be advertising this, unlike the treatment that the EcoLPI Falcon is getting.
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Thanks for the link / review Falc'man!

Positive review with the drive test being well balanced.

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The hand held 7.6 sec acceleration time at the very least matches the SIDI 3.0 VE Commodore.
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Thanks for the link / review Falc'man!

Positive review with the drive test being well balanced.



The hand held 7.6 sec acceleration time at the very least matches the SIDI 3.0 VE Commodore.
It convincingly beats the 3.0litre Commodore.
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It convincingly beats the 3.0litre Commodore.
Yeh I thought I'd read somewhere that the 3.0 Commodore did it in mid 8s area.

According to carpoint and caradvice, the GPS timings they got were ~7.17 for 6cyl and 7.3 for T4. Pretty good! Was 7.9 with 4 people on board.
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I wonder who'll be the first to whack it on LPG?
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I wonder who'll be the first to whack it on LPG?
Don't think that'll be happening with the direct injection- because the injectors are in the combustion chamber, they need the cooling effect of the fuel to stay functional. From what I've read, it's been attempted with the SIDI Commodores without success.

Only ways to do it that I can see are using the petrol high pressure pump, rail and injectors for LPG (not sure how long that would last with lower lubricity of LPG) or by using port injection with the petrol injectors firing every so often, which would obviously partially negate the benefits of LPG.

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With regards to modifying, I have no doubt that tuners who supply parts for the 6T will release something for these engines as well.

But if you want big power than fuel economy is not the number one priority and you may as well start with a proven 6T.

What I am hoping for is that the EcoBoost will have an extra urban consumption figure in the 6L/100km range, which will make it attractive for people who don't long hwy commutes.

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The hand held 7.6 sec acceleration time at the very least matches the SIDI 3.0 VE Commodore.
I could be wrong, but I recal reading review that quoted something like 9 seconds 0-100km/h times for the 3.0 SIDI.
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If the acceleration and fuel consumption figures are to be believed, it makes an absolute mockery of the 3.0L SIDI offering and should have Toyota worried about their copious government fleet contracts.
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I used to have an Audi A4 1.8T. A few 100kg lighter but less powerfull. Bottom line is coupled with a smart transmission these engines can move 4 door cars easily in day to day application.

If anything I think this configuration will over deliver as Ford know they have some hurdles to jump to get the traditional buyers onboard.

However I expect 90% to go to cost and efficency concious fleet buyers so overall I think it will be a great addition to the Ford line up.
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The two main questions of the 4cyl Falcon >>

Is it gutless ? - no, it does 0-100 in 7.6secs

Is it far more economical on petrol (compared to the 6) ? - ?.......
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I think I read it is supposed to do 8L/100km compared to the 6cyl of 9.9L/100km combined economy? Does this sound correct?
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I used to have an Audi A4 1.8T. A few 100kg lighter but less powerfull. Bottom line is coupled with a smart transmission these engines can move 4 door cars easily in day to day application.

If anything I think this configuration will over deliver as Ford know they have some hurdles to jump to get the traditional buyers onboard.

However I expect 90% to go to cost and efficency concious fleet buyers so overall I think it will be a great addition to the Ford line up.
Agreed, there must be a few sales in fleet that must have a 4 banger...so why buy a Corolla (like most seem to be doing) when you can have fuel consumption close to with more practicality if you need to use it.
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Just reading the specs of the ZF transmissions...
Assuming that it's using the 6HP19, 'max' input torque is 350Nm.
If they use the 6HP21, max torque is 400Nm, but I doubt this because it's the newer more expensive transmission.

Listed transmission masses agree with what the articles say about being lighter than the 6cyl trans.

...so that should give an indication as to the engine performance. That, of course, assumes that the transmission is actually from ZF, rather than the Ford version that the territory now uses.
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Is it gutless ? - no, it does 0-100 in 7.6secs

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That's the $64,000 question. Wern't they talking about 8.0 litres per 100 km's at one stage ??
BUT the lighter and more aerodynamic FWD Mondeo Ecoboost is 8.0 so that implies something more than that figure.
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