More PC Madness, as Mercedes-Benz Cancels 2022 V8s in the USA.

[stevefreestyle]

Is it April the first ?? Another tragic case of Go WOKE GO BROKE !

As the V8 segment is one of the most profitable for MB, with a huge range of product - and with massive R&D Investment to recoup, the prognosis for MB profitability and even viability would not be great.

A great triumph of absurd Post-Modernist leftist P.C. ideological green dogma over reality.

"The V-8 engine has nearly been jettisoned from the Mercedes-Benz lineup in an instant.

On Friday, Reddit user BSW1234 posted on the /r/cars section that Mercedes suspended all V-8s for the U.S. market for the 2022 model year. The user provided a notice to /r/cars moderators and Motor Authority that was sent on Friday to all U.S. dealers from Adam Chamberlain, vice president of sales and product management at Mercedes-Benz.

Mercedes-Benz spokesperson Anne McGregor told Motor Authority that the automaker has prioritized its focus to comply with global, external, and internal requirements along with facing challenging supply chain issues.

The model year 2022 availability update sent to U.S. dealers stated that "orders and production scheduling for the affected models are suspended, effective immediately." The action applies to all previously ordered V-8-powered 2022 GLE, GLS, and GLS Maybach along with all AMG models.

The only models not affected and that will be available with a V-8 engine for 2022 in the U.S. are the S-Class and Maybach S-Class.

This means there are no 2022 AMG C 63 or 63 S, AMG E 63 S, AMG GT, AMG GLC 63, AMG GLE 63, GLS 580, AMG GLS 63, Maybach GLS 600, and G-Class SUV.

The dealer notice said Mercedes-Benz USA will continue to order 2021 model year G550 and G63 AMG models until the end of 2021 production in December. "Please recognize that this MY21 G-Class volume will be the only volume of G-Class until further notice," the dealer update states.

McGregor refused to say whether the supply chain issues were an issue with chips, turbochargers, or other parts. Nor would she comment on whether any of the discontinued 2022 model year vehicles powered by a V-8 will return for the 2023 model year."


https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...except-s-class

[XRtowcar]

Good on them. Electric cars will replace and outperform them anyway.

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

Good on them. Electric cars will replace and outperform them anyway.

Apart from the real world issues of Toxic Battery Disposal and Replacement Cost after 10 years, there is another real-world problem or two.

And when everyone in the Brave New World of Electrification are spending 10+hours over Night charging their cars (every couple of days), whilst blowing their Power Bills, and in the context of the rapid ideologically driven elimination of BASE LOAD power stations, where is all the electricity coming from?

[Dr Smith]

The article doesn't say the models are cancelled, never to return or if it's purely based on lack of supply of components.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Apart from the real world issues of Toxic Battery Disposal and Replacement Cost after 10 years, there is another real-world problem or two.

And when everyone in the Brave New World of Electrification are spending 10+hours over Night charging their cars (every couple of days), whilst blowing their Power Bills, and in the context of the rapid ideologically driven elimination of BASE LOAD power stations, where is all the electricity coming from?

Electricity comes from a wall socket...we don't have to worry how it got there or if we plug more things in if it will keep turning up. As I explained to my daughter, it's fantastic to worry about the environment, however we have to recognise if supply cannot keep up with demand you either pay much more or be more practical in your supply sources until supply of the chosen sources comfortably meets demand at ALL times.

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

The article doesn't say the models are cancelled, never to return or if it's purely based on lack of supply of components.

Read it again, Supply issues were ADDITIONAL to other perceived external & internal (policy) requirements "prioritized its focus to comply with global, external, and internal requirements along with facing challenging supply chain issues."

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Read it again, Supply issues were ADDITIONAL to other perceived external & internal (policy) requirements "prioritized its focus to comply with global, external, and internal requirements along with facing challenging supply chain issues."

So where does it say they will not ever return these models?

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Electricity comes from a wall socket...we don't have to worry how it got there or if we plug more things in if it will keep turning up.

Good one, how true! I forgot, Blackouts only come from when people forget to switch the power point on ! lol!

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

So where does it say they will not ever return these models?

It doesn't say it will be not be back, just as it ominously omits any reference to a return - or temporary status.

[Dr Smith]

On a side note, how come my power rates went up and my feed in tariff went down?

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

On a side note, how come my power rates went up and my feed in tariff went down?

I think the Greenies call it......Progress.

Welcome to the P.C "Utopian" Future!

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

I think the Greenies call it......Progress.

Welcome to the P.C "Utopian" Future!

I'm of the older gen..whenever I read PC I first think of Personal Computer...

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

Good on them. Electric cars will replace and outperform them anyway.

I really don't care if if any EV goes faster.

[five 7]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Apart from the real world issues of Toxic Battery Disposal and Replacement Cost after 10 years, there is another real-world problem or two.

And when everyone in the Brave New World of Electrification are spending 10+hours over Night charging their cars (every couple of days), whilst blowing their Power Bills, and in the context of the rapid ideologically driven elimination of BASE LOAD power stations, where is all the electricity coming from?

NZ is struggling to to supply power now, we have recently had a rolling blackout with warnings of more, can't wait till everyone plugs a EV in. A genset is on my shopping list.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

On a side note, how come my power rates went up and my feed in tariff went down?

We'll be paying them to take our Solar soon...

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by hayseed

We'll be paying them to take our Solar soon...

Yes, being levied on assessed resource potential is only a matter of time.

At least the V8 Tesla finally got up.

[Bossxr8]

CAFE requirements?

[FTE217]

We're a family of 5cars and no 6 soon enough.
Can you imagine having a EV plug in fight over the charger at home.
Let alone whilst the Mum mobile is getting her overnight oh how wonderful charge no fuss Jnr comes home having burnt out all his power unplugs Mums for a quick boost to get back out and forgets plugging Mums EV back in....then again no 2 might do the same a 3am, where's the face palm.
Oh spare me the battles at home and we need to buy 5 chargers Dad.
Yes ok come on down EV brigade luvers and explain its all figured out....

Woe MB, unreal thats alot of revenue missing in '22.

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

CAFE requirements?

almost certainly.

[smoo]

MB also released a statement last year in solidarity with peaceful protestors BLM, cucks.

[Polyal]

Well they are pulling out of formula E if you want to balance it up?

[Giant Cranium]

Originally Posted by FTE217

We're a family of 5cars and no 6 soon enough.
Can you imagine having a EV plug in fight over the charger at home.
Let alone whilst the Mum mobile is getting her overnight oh how wonderful charge no fuss Jnr comes home having burnt out all his power unplugs Mums for a quick boost to get back out and forgets plugging Mums EV back in....then again no 2 might do the same a 3am, where's the face palm.
Oh spare me the battles at home and we need to buy 5 chargers Dad.
Yes ok come on down EV brigade luvers and explain its all figured out....

Woe MB, unreal thats alot of revenue missing in '22.

That definitely seems like an issue that would resolve itself as you add each electric car to the fleet. People still run out of fuel in their cars 130 years after a cars were invented

I’m building a new garage soon and I’ll add 3phase to it for the eventual ownership of 2 electric cars or for the future owners.

Local government might have to look at installing plug bases into the tops of gutters as they replace them. It’s the only way I can see places like the inner west getting power to cars as less than half of the houses would have garages/parking

[FTE217]

Bang on, though running out of fuel never an issue as we know, its set up and no fuss to fill.

As mentioned, how many families gonna afford paying for 3phase, and the mention like living like sardines in the CBD's that have so many parking only on the streets.
Its a long way off this having the structure set to support it.
You can have charging stations here and there but how packed will they be during these stages.

Anyway, give me a ICE V8 AMG anyday back on thread.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by smoo

MB also released a statement last year in solidarity with peaceful protestors BLM, cucks.

I guess they didn't realise that most Mercedes Benz sold are base models on finance or lease. Not really the rich people they hate.

[Sprintey]

No fun for you!

(*except Maybach owners, different rules apply compared to the peons)

[Wretched]

PC madness? WOKE?
Right.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Apart from the real world issues of Toxic Battery Disposal and Replacement Cost after 10 years, there is another real-world problem or two.

And when everyone in the Brave New World of Electrification are spending 10+hours over Night charging their cars (every couple of days), whilst blowing their Power Bills, and in the context of the rapid ideologically driven elimination of BASE LOAD power stations, where is all the electricity coming from?

Where to start with this. Do you think a car just shuts down once its out of warranty? Batteries don't just die randomly or as soon as they hit 10 years. This is a common myth. As the tech gets better, they will last longer and companies have found a way to recycle and repurpose 92% of batteries. Example, a car battery can be used for home use after its life as efficiency isn't as big a priority when you have more space.

Costs me $1.10 cents per 100kms to charge off the Grid at the moment and takes around 2-3 hours on average (80kms per hour charge rate). Not 10+.

Originally Posted by FTE217

We're a family of 5cars and no 6 soon enough.
Can you imagine having a EV plug in fight over the charger at home.
Let alone whilst the Mum mobile is getting her overnight oh how wonderful charge no fuss Jnr comes home having burnt out all his power unplugs Mums for a quick boost to get back out and forgets plugging Mums EV back in....then again no 2 might do the same a 3am, where's the face palm.
Oh spare me the battles at home and we need to buy 5 chargers Dad.
Yes ok come on down EV brigade luvers and explain its all figured out....

Woe MB, unreal thats alot of revenue missing in '22.

I'll bite. We have 4 EV's. They charge just fine at home without issues. We have 4 chargers that take care of their needs. Just come home, plug in and they are all triggered to charge when the Super Off Peak kicks in at midnight. They use 64amps which is fine given we have 100amps available. If you have less, just schedule them to run sequentially (one finishes at 2am, the next automatically kicks in at that time). Its not rocket science. Given the range on them, you don't have to plug in every night anyway. Just plug in two at a time for the night if need be if you don't have the infrastructure. Most don't fill a car with petrol every day.

OT, The new C63 is just a terrible way forward. It weighs more than a Model 3, is slower and has the added complexity of a hybrid system. Its madness. If they dump the V8, they should just electrify those models rather than these rubbish Hybrid setups.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by FTE217

As mentioned, how many families gonna afford paying for 3phase, and the mention like living like sardines in the CBD's that have so many parking only on the streets.
Its a long way off this having the structure set to support it.
You can have charging stations here and there but how packed will they be during these stages.

Cost $2k to upgrade to 3 phase at my parents place for example. Not that expensive in the scheme of things.

I've never gone to a charging station that was full yet given most charge at home. Even the Broadway charger given the higher number of cars there hasn't ever been full.

[FTE217]

not everyone has $2k to splash mate.
Thankfully I live on a good block and open space.
So a charger for each, 5/6/7 odd cars in time, how crap.
A servo bares their running cost and equipment happy to fill and go.
I can imagine other family homes who have so much room to charge their fleet, not.
I would expect there is no waiting time even around Broadway, the numbers confirm that.
The point on no need to charge them at any given time, when you have a larger fam, people come go, come go, you haven't charged a couple for you thought nah not need X and X are not doing anything, like most, things come up, the charged up ones are out and about but X needs to head out pronto, 2 don't have enough charge having calculated what their doing.
OR, the people making spur of the moment decisions, wake up and decide to head to Orange or Hunter or more, oh F its not charged enough.
Anyway as you know I'm not interested.
Enjoy your batteries and yes we know you got the ICE ones.
Lets talk smelly heavy sounding AMG's, it brings far more smiles to peoples faces at this point of time.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by FTE217

not everyone has $2k to splash mate.
Thankfully I live on a good block and open space.
So a charger for each, 5/6/7 odd cars in time, how crap.
A servo bares their running cost and equipment happy to fill and go.
I can imagine other family homes who have so much room to charge their fleet, not.
I would expect there is no waiting time even around Broadway, the numbers confirm that.
The point on no need to charge them at any given time, when you have a larger fam, people come go, come go, you haven't charged a couple for you thought nah not need X and X are not doing anything, like most, things come up, the charged up ones are out and about but X needs to head out pronto, 2 don't have enough charge having calculated what their doing.
OR, the people making spur of the moment decisions, wake up and decide to head to Orange or Hunter or more, oh F its not charged enough.
Anyway as you know I'm not interested.
Enjoy your batteries and yes we know you got the ICE ones.
Lets talk smelly heavy sounding AMG's, it brings far more smiles to peoples faces at this point of time.

If you can afford 5 cars, you can afford 2k in upgrades to power. Else you can happily run single phase for 1-2 cars.

I've woken up plenty of times and said, right let's go for a long drive to Dubbo for example. Cars go to sleep when you've charged them up.

Bought fuel today for the Mach 1. First time in 6 months! $83 for 47 odd litres to go 330 kms! Stuff that! The EV would've done the same for $3.30 and is faster! Mach 1 will not be used daily for sure!

Anyway, I loathe the Mercs being an auto. I'd never have bought one of their V8's anyway so no loss in my world.

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