Toyota 86 price $29,990!

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

Hey it wasn't me that gave them the tag.

Actually it was, because 99.9% of motoring enthusiasts know the MX5 is a great car.

Can we stick OT now?

Any news from Subaru?

[trippytaka]

Originally Posted by mik

if i`m not mistaken........ please correct me if i`m wrong, in the US they are selling the identical car under the subaru badge BRZ?
check this out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD3hgleEOXA

Not identical.

This is a joint venture between Fuji (subaru) and Toyota.

It's a Subaru engine, interestingly.

All the dynamics, suspension etc is going to be different between the car makers.

[Poetic Justice]

Not all sold out, I have a red gts auto coming in this week

Very surprised and happy about the pricing. Didn't think they'd make it below 35 tbh.

[Poetic Justice]

PS they're also sold as a Scion FR-S in the states instead of Toyota 86.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by SumoDog68

First shippment of 400 has sold out - not bad for something noone appearantly wants :-)

like most fads, they will be popular for a bit and then fade away.

[Spudz27]

It is a very nice looking car. What is the difference between models?

[flappist]

There is a shiny black new V8 getting around here rego "STYLIST", guess what the owner does for a living........

[dimka100]

This car has been for sale for the last 6 months now in Japan and USA, I’m not aware of any turbo kits still on offer (excluding any massive engine conversions a few have done which probably cost more than double the cars cost), do you have any links?

Personally I don’t think that just bolting on a turbo or a supercharger will be an easy exercise … The engine is a high tuned N/A running a too high compression ratio for any force fed applications, the engines internals have been designed to be light and rev happy rather than supper strong and boost happy, finally the ECU is complicated and closed from what I gathered … yes a few racing teams / people did modify this car already, but the cost of these mods would have easily exceeded the price of new M3s / 911s and that is a total waste of money …

Originally Posted by tranquilized

There will be turbo kits and all kinds of aftermarket mods available for this car almost immediately.

Aftermarket tuners & developers were given access by Toyota and allowed input throughout the whole devlelopment phase. The idea being this car is a blank canvas designed to be modded, allowing Toyota to sell it ridiculously cheap.

[DBourne]

I'm extremely excited about the pricing. Definitely something to consider to replace the 5 once more stock comes in and I can get a test drive.

[XP6]

So will a Miami fit?

[lockieoc]

I've been following this on so many different forums and this one of the only ones that don't seem to have any clue what they are talking about.
Girls car, hair dresses, needs more power, needs a turbo.
Are most of you that delusional?
High reving, perfectly balanced, light weight, tuned chassis with RWD and LSD can provide more thrills than a 400rwkw dyno queen.
Roads aren't all just straight lines, some times they have these things called "corners" which is where this car is designed to perform.
Some people need to wake up a little.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by trippytaka

This is a joint venture between Fuji (subaru) and Toyota.

It's a Subaru engine, interestingly.
.

Actually, its a subaru/toyota engine. The fuel system is toyota (even in the BRZ)....


...but anywho...


Great price for a RWD Sports car! I wonder if nissian will follow up with its own cut price sports car?

Originally Posted by lockieoc

I've been following this on so many different forums and this one of the only ones that don't seem to have any clue what they are talking about.
Girls car, hair dresses, needs more power, needs a turbo.
Are most of you that delusional?
High reving, perfectly balanced, light weight, tuned chassis with RWD and LSD can provide more thrills than a 400rwkw dyno queen.
Roads aren't all just straight lines, some times they have these things called "corners" which is where this car is designed to perform.
Some people need to wake up a little

.

Couldn't agree more.

[SteveJH]

I think you'll find that in many overseas markets the 370Z isnt that much more expensive then the BRZ/86.....

[dimka100]

Or many other awesome cars for that matter

[mcnews]

Our 370Z at base is fully loaded though, in most markets you have to add about 10 options to get to Aussie spec base car, which only option it has to tick is I think floormats, lol, it has everything else standard.

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by mcnews

Our 370Z at base is fully loaded though, in most markets you have to add about 10 options to get to Aussie spec base car, which only option it has to tick is I think floormats, lol, it has everything else standard.

Mcnews,

Evo magazine did a comparo of the BRZ to the 370Z, Megane 265 Trophy, MX5 and original Subaru Impreza Turbo. The result? To quote the front of the Magazine "2000 Miles in the new BRZ - And why it's not good enough"

From my reading, basically because its got not torque, to get to the 'fun' you have to rev the absolute crap out of it, and its gutless below 5000 rpm. It makes a 'massive' 204Nm of torque at 6400rpm.

[mcnews]

I did read something like that somewhere, same can be said for RX8, but that is one of the best driving experience in the hills any money can buy. But yes can make it painful on a commute. Tis the price you pay...

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Holy crapola, that is cheap. I was expecting around $50K

Hyundai Veloster price range in this ********.

I was expecting at least a 35ish starting point for this car.

Having said that, I think the buyers of the 86 can thank the Veloster for bringing the price down the 30k.

Still, what does the Veloster start at, isn't it 25k? When the turbo gets here, what will be the base model price? $36-38 grand?? Around the top spec 86 price, but with the added performance and extra door.

Buyers are spoilt for choice at the moment

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by SteveJH

From my reading, basically because its got not torque, to get to the 'fun' you have to rev the absolute crap out of it, and its gutless below 5000 rpm. It makes a 'massive' 204Nm of torque at 6400rpm.

which is no different to all the truly fun vtec hondas, 20v 4age levins etc from the 90s...

yes, you actually have to DRIVE the suckers, not just stick it in performance and let oodles of horsepower do it all for you. for some, thats a more enjoyable drive.

thats why these sorts of cars generally have awesome quick shifting manuals, you have to row them along to get the most from them.

[EFinSilver]

Hm this could be my next car, I would prefer the BRZ though, just my brand bias..also I hear they run different suspension now, Toyota's front is a bit softer than the Subaru.

Amazing price, I assumed 5-10 grand more. Also heard from different websites that the Subaru could be cheaper. Heres hoping.

[Bossxr8]

I thought they'd be at least 35k, the pricing is pretty sharp.

All it needs is some torque. 205nm is pathetic really, especially when its peak is above 5000rpm.

Toyota need to fit the rumoured supercharger quickly, make it a real sports car with the power and torque it is crying out for.

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

I was expecting at least a 35ish starting point for this car.

Having said that, I think the buyers of the 86 can thank the Veloster for bringing the price down the 30k.

Still, what does the Veloster start at, isn't it 25k? When the turbo gets here, what will be the base model price? $36-38 grand?? Around the top spec 86 price, but with the added performance and extra door.

Buyers are spoilt for choice at the moment

Looking at a few different sites more affiliated with these type of cars, I honestly doubt you'll get one of these for much under 40k inc ORC?
This $29,990 is the attention grabber.
Talking the top model, what is it?.. GTS?
Re: The mag comparison with the 370Z.. Get real... The MX5 or Velostar thingo maybe.

[Fiesta God]

Originally Posted by lockieoc

Girls car, hair dresses, needs more power, needs a turbo.
Are most of you that delusional?
High reving, perfectly balanced, light weight, tuned chassis with RWD and LSD can provide more thrills than a 400rwkw dyno queen.
Roads aren't all just straight lines, some times they have these things called "corners" which is where this car is designed to perform.
Some people need to wake up a little.

Spot on.

This car fills an enormous void in the market - the success of Capri's in the 1970's and 1980's, and Supra's, Skylines, Silvia's (and even RWD Celica's) in the 1980's and 1990's should prove that there is a demand for lightweight RWD cars on the market.

They have nothing to do with hairdressers, and everything to do with people who love cornering and lightweight vehicles that provide a good platform for modification & tuning.

This is an unbelievably good looking vehicle for the price, and great value for money. There are no competitors at this price range in the RWD sports car market. Well done Toyota

[nstg8a]

is the 29k one the true povo spec one? i saw pics somewhere of the povo model somewhere, unpainted bumpers, steel rims, real blank canvas material.

found it...

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

is the 29k one the true povo spec one? i saw pics somewhere of the povo model somewhere, unpainted bumpers, steel rims, real blank canvas material.

That's the one you can get in Japan specifically for Tuners. No stereo, throwaway bumpers, only colour white etc.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

is the 29k one the true povo spec one? i saw pics somewhere of the povo model somewhere, unpainted bumpers, steel rims, real blank canvas material.

No, it just the "base" model.

I don't think Australia are getting the pov/tuner spec version.

[mik]

Originally Posted by lockieoc

I've been following this on so many different forums and this one of the only ones that don't seem to have any clue what they are talking about.
Girls car, hair dresses, needs more power, needs a turbo.
Are most of you that delusional?
High reving, perfectly balanced, light weight, tuned chassis with RWD and LSD can provide more thrills than a 400rwkw dyno queen.
Roads aren't all just straight lines, some times they have these things called "corners" which is where this car is designed to perform.
Some people need to wake up a little.

i agree , hair dressers car is probably not a fair comment ,but not everyone aspires to highly strung sports/track cars, some of us like the bigger grand tourers that will happily pull from 1800 revs in an instant and still go through a sweeper at a speed that is still way above most peoples driving capability`s, no doubt it`s a fun car in the mountain twistys, but as an all rounder/daily factory hot rod, it`s not my cup of tea,
part of the allure of big power factory hotrods is they can be a handfull if not treated with respect and in fact do still provide thrills in the bends and don`t need to have the mammary `s reved of them to make forward progress, but to each his own.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Mechan1k

Now to drop a Lexus V8 in it ... like has already been done in Japan.

actually i was thinking L98, may shoe horn in..

[Nic85]

For me, I'd have to get the GTS with the automatic gearbox. I want the options like leather, sat nav, Xenons etc. So, I have to pay $38k + metallic paint + onroads, meaning a total price close to $45k. ***** please.

If only it had a decent engine...

[Kevaclone]

Originally Posted by Nikked

No, it just the "base" model.

I don't think Australia are getting the pov/tuner spec version.

Most of the ones I saw at the docks were GT base specs and they definitely weren't these Base specs things

No price for A/C??? you can bet it's another $2400 as well
Isn't the Auto the dual clutch type with flapper paddles(I did see some fitted with them), surely they would be just as much fun as they will change gears when you want and faster than most of you lot