New Ranger teaser vidz - Page 9

Ben73 · 27-11-2021, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

I tend to agree with you. My 21 Outback has the 11.2" portrait touch screen also and I think its overkill. Plus a lot of the cars functionality relies on the infotainment system interface. You also have to scroll through 2 or 3 menus to switch off/on and adjust aspects of the car which is more annoying. I hope the new Ranger doesn't rely on this tech to operate because I can tell you now, a lot will not like it.

I don't like the idea, or look of portrait screens. I think I'd prefer landscape. My Jeep has square screen and that seems ok too.

I love the screens in the new Sportage.

https://images.carexpert.com.au/resi...GT-Line_13.jpg

The photo was too big so I'll just link it.

Top_Ghia · 27-11-2021, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by simon varley

nah, we do

The new Ranger looks fantastic and will sell like hot cakes. But I’m more excited about what is coming a bit later. Bring it.

danzvtil · 27-11-2021, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

It all sounds good so far but I'm not sold on the looks. To my eyes, this render of the Amarok looks better.

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Im seeing a bit of mitsubishi in that face, only the squirrels cheeks arent quite as full of nuts.

Dr Smith · 27-11-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Does the shifter serve a purpose still, ie, tiptronic mode or is it all controlled by the buttons? Genuine question.

The focus/escape setup is great. Much better access to storage areas etc without a gearstick in the way but I do accept that the ranger is a vehicle for many different purposes.

While I agree the rotary dial does work for creating more space and less knocking of coffee cups the one proviso is with paddle shifters you get the best of both worlds, sadly paddle shifters were dropped on the Escape MY2022 upgrade, so I have no idea how you manually control the auto...while our daughters SA Focus has both rotary and paddle shifters.

I have a Vito and at first I took some time getting used to it's rhd stalk for changing gears, now however it's so quick and easy and you don't lift your hands off the steering wheel.... reversing a trailer is literally a breeze, same hand to spin the steering wheel and finger tips to select R or D...and it has paddle shifters.

Warrenk · 27-11-2021, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

It all sounds good so far but I'm not sold on the looks. To my eyes, this render of the Amarok looks better.

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There won't be much difference. The only thing that will be different between the Ford ans VW will be the the grill and panel work around the grill so to give them there idenity.

jpd80 · 27-11-2021, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Well us Terry diesel owners will have some idea....yes we experience daily the smoothness of the 2.7V6 tdi however we only have 140kW and 6 speeds, this will be 180kW+/~600Nm turning 10 speeds of hopefully recalibrated shifts and closer ratios...

I hope the Everest gets some of those different colour interior shots on some of the OS Youtube channels.

The big relief is that Ford upgraded the rotating assembly to forging in the 3.0 Powerstroke,
the cast crankshaft in JLR applications was subject to cracking behind the first rod pair.

I might be wrong on this but most vehicles with good NVH include smooth engines and
cabin materials with good sound deadening properties, soft touch materials add to both
a nicer but also quieter driving experience. Hard plastics just seem to reflect sound waves

MDS69 · 27-11-2021, 06:18 PM

I wonder how they will control brightness on the centre screen at night when on a predominantly white screen.

nstg8a · 27-11-2021, 06:48 PM

So what’s the deal with the Vw tie up.

It it really a VW ranger or is the amarok really a ford?

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GTLEGEND · 27-11-2021, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

So what’s the deal with the Vw tie up.

It it really a VW ranger or is the amarok really a ford?

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It will be an Amarok based on a Ford, similar to the PX1/Mazda BT50 set up..

b0son · 27-11-2021, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MDS69

I wonder how they will control brightness on the centre screen at night when on a predominantly white screen.

Presumably has a dark mode.

**Fordman1** · 27-11-2021, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

So what’s the deal with the Vw tie up.

It it really a VW ranger or is the amarok really a ford?

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I’m tipping this is a Ford.

VW may say otherwise.

jpd80 · 27-11-2021, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

So what’s the deal with the Vw tie up.

It it really a VW ranger or is the amarok really a ford?

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VW is axing its own Amarok, Crafter and Transporter, completely outsourcing them to Ford who will deliver versions
based on Ranger, Transit and Transit Custom, VW will supply Ford with Caddy based Transit Connect.

Ford Europe is currently retooling its Cologne plant to build VW based Electric vehicles with unique Ford top hats.
Hopefully, Australia will get access to Ford’s BEVs in the future…

FPV8U · 27-11-2021, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

when people start taking the new Ranger for a drive, there’s no way most could go back
to a noisy clattering of a competitor’s POS. It’s that good, anyone who’s owned a V6 Terry will agree…

As a Territory Diesel owner, that’s a reference I really like reading, I can’t wait to jump behind the wheel of one of these.

DoreSlamR · 27-11-2021, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

I don't like the idea, or look of portrait screens. I think I'd prefer landscape. My Jeep has square screen and that seems ok too.

I love the screens in the new Sportage.

https://images.carexpert.com.au/resi...GT-Line_13.jpg

The photo was too big so I'll just link it.

That does look good.

I love the dash layout of the Q7, obviously much higher spec than what Kia or Ford would do

Dr Smith · 28-11-2021, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

The big relief is that Ford upgraded the rotating assembly to forging in the 3.0 Powerstroke,
the cast crankshaft in JLR applications was subject to cracking behind the first rod pair.

I might be wrong on this but most vehicles with good NVH include smooth engines and
cabin materials with good sound deadening properties, soft touch materials add to both
a nicer but also quieter driving experience. Hard plastics just seem to reflect sound waves

If I ever get bored and have some spare cash...wonder how hard down the track it would be to swap in a Ranger V6 diesel into a Terry....

jpd80 · 28-11-2021, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

If I ever get bored and have some spare cash...wonder how hard down the track it would be to swap in a Ranger V6 diesel into a Terry....

One thing for sure, the 2.7 Lion is a lot narrower and shorter than a Coyote V8.
I think you’d have a great ride, really cheap if you bought a Ranger with a dead engine…

nstg8a · 28-11-2021, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

VW is axing its own Amarok, Crafter and Transporter, completely outsourcing them to Ford who will deliver versions
based on Ranger, Transit and Transit Custom, VW will supply Ford with Caddy based Transit Connect.

Ford Europe is currently retooling its Cologne plant to build VW based Electric vehicles with unique Ford top hats.
Hopefully, Australia will get access to Ford’s BEVs in the future…

Interesting, I would have thought the amarok had made a fairly decent name for itself, same as crafter, be a bit of a risk using fords to replace them.

prydey · 28-11-2021, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Interesting, I would have thought the amarok had made a fairly decent name for itself, same as crafter, be a bit of a risk using fords to replace them.

I would suggest there will be the bulk of consumers that are none the wiser.

I had an old guy tell me once that the ranger was actually a Mazda bt50.. I told him it was actually the other way around but not sure he believed me. A guy at work bought a renault koleos. I congratulated him on his fancy Nissan xtrail. That didn't go down so well.

As long as there is still the VW badge on the outside, the reputation (didn't think they had a good one) will remain.

**Fordman1** · 28-11-2021, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Interesting, I would have thought the amarok had made a fairly decent name for itself, same as crafter, be a bit of a risk using fords to replace them.

Bit of a risk replacing Amarok (after you’ve lost Billions in fines after the “Diesel gate” fiasco) with the worlds best mid size Ute ?

I think not, it was “this” or nothing.

jpd80 · 28-11-2021, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Interesting, I would have thought the amarok had made a fairly decent name for itself, same as crafter, be a bit of a risk using fords to replace them.

New Amorok based on top selling 4x4 in Australia?
New Crafter & Transporter bast on popular in Europe Transit & Transit Custom?
I think they’ll do just fine.

Dieselgate cost VW $30 billion and a huge hit to its reputation, outsourcing to Ford eliminates the next round
of product cycle development costs and retooling of at least two plants, it also reduces any future liability.

Falcon SXR8 · 28-11-2021, 06:28 PM

VW might chuck one of their special " dieselgate tunes" in them and have the power advantage over the ford version.

**Fordman1** · 28-11-2021, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

VW might chuck one of their special " dieselgate tunes" in them and have the power advantage over the ford version.

Those would be built in a FORD plant, no chance.

Maybe the VW dealers will have a diesel-gate flash ?

**DFB FGXR6** · 28-11-2021, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

I would suggest there will be the bulk of consumers that are none the wiser.

I had an old guy tell me once that the ranger was actually a Mazda bt50.. I told him it was actually the other way around but not sure he believed me. A guy at work bought a renault koleos. I congratulated him on his fancy Nissan xtrail. That didn't go down so well.

As long as there is still the VW badge on the outside, the reputation (didn't think they had a good one) will remain.

I have had people tell me that the Ranger and BT-50 had a Volvo engine, referencing the 5 cylinder 3.2.

**Fordman1** · 28-11-2021, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

I would suggest there will be the bulk of consumers that are none the wiser.

I had an old guy tell me once that the ranger was actually a Mazda bt50.. I told him it was actually the other way around but not sure he believed me. A guy at work bought a renault koleos. I congratulated him on his fancy Nissan xtrail. That didn't go down so well.

As long as there is still the VW badge on the outside, the reputation (didn't think they had a good one) will remain.

Try telling a bloke his X Class Mercedes Ute is a Nissan that is worth 30+ G less, it’s gold.

XR Martin · 28-11-2021, 07:42 PM

The merc V6 TD is probably worth $30k over the gutless nugget in the Nissan.

prydey · 28-11-2021, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

Try telling a bloke his X Class Mercedes Ute is a Nissan that is worth 30+ G less, it’s gold.

I thought about that example but it's not quite the same. It's based on the Nissan only. I believe it's wider among a whole host of other things.

Still, the point stands. Amarok and Ranger will sell alongside each other and most will be none the wiser.

jpd80 · 28-11-2021, 08:49 PM

I wonder if Toyota would entertain putting their 3.3 V6TD (227 Kw/700nm) into the Hilux………

**Fordman1** · 28-11-2021, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

The merc V6 TD is probably worth $30k over the gutless nugget in the Nissan.

Maybe that’s why they canned it ?

It was rubbish anyway.

jpd80 · 28-11-2021, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

Maybe that’s why they canned it ?

It was rubbish anyway.

The best the owner can hope for is that it’s on a lease with a guaranteed buy back price and the Factory warranty covers the lease period.

The last thing you’d wish on the owner is to be wedlocked to a vehicle like that until either one dies….

BENT_8 · 28-11-2021, 10:11 PM

Im just glad we've moved away from the 2.0l less is more market spin that saw what were once real men reduced to opting for milk and juice carton engine capacities coz thats what they got told is all they should need.
'We listened to our customers'..obviously not a few 'round here

Thank God for 3.0l+ goodness and more than 4 rods