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Old 25-11-2021, 10:20 PM   #211
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Did someone alert Franco to the disc brakes all round?
Good stuff, good to see the Ranger has stepped up into the same league as the LDV T60 in the brakes department
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Old 25-11-2021, 10:21 PM   #212
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I still think PX2 was Rangers sweet spot looks wise, that they retained the PX2 grill style for the PX3 Wildtrak tells you something about what looks good.
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Any reports of whether it'll be sharing any of the Bronco's offroad tech?
Swaybar disconnect, GOAT mode, front and center diff locks?
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Any reports of whether it'll be sharing any of the Bronco's offroad tech?
Swaybar disconnect, GOAT mode, front and center diff locks?
No center differential in the Bronco, just a transfer case with auto mode (does the same thing). Front and rear diff locks.
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Well, when you only plan to sell one model, you can spend a lot more on it....
let's unpack this a little shall we?

in 2010 for PX1 we launched with 3 body styles, 3 engines, 3 transmissions and 2 emissions levels. We staggered the stg5 launch because the workload was too much

in 2015 for PX2 we freshened the cars and added the SUV body style. We also added stg6 emissions for the Euro markets

in 2018 for PX3 we added the Raptor and the 2.0 Panther engine in single- and bi-turbo forms in both manual and auto. Upgraded the Euro cars to stg6.1 emissions

in 2019 we introduced Ranger into North America with a unique engine, transmission and emissions level. While looking superficially the same as the rest of world model the body and chassis were essentially all new

Let's list out the engineering work we've just completed and are still working on. Without giving anything away. We concurrently engineered:
  • 5 different bodies
  • 7 different engines
  • 5 different transmissions
  • 4 different drivelines
  • 5 different emissions levels
  • over a dozen different trim levels

so yeah, we're only selling one model......
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Nice upgrade. Hybrid coming in 2025?
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let's unpack this a little shall we?

in 2010 for PX1 we launched with 3 body styles, 3 engines, 3 transmissions and 2 emissions levels. We staggered the stg5 launch because the workload was too much

in 2015 for PX2 we freshened the cars and added the SUV body style. We also added stg6 emissions for the Euro markets

in 2018 for PX3 we added the Raptor and the 2.0 Panther engine in single- and bi-turbo forms in both manual and auto. Upgraded the Euro cars to stg6.1 emissions

in 2019 we introduced Ranger into North America with a unique engine, transmission and emissions level. While looking superficially the same as the rest of world model the body and chassis were essentially all new

Let's list out the engineering work we've just completed and are still working on. Without giving anything away. We concurrently engineered:
  • 5 different bodies
  • 7 different engines
  • 5 different transmissions
  • 4 different drivelines
  • 5 different emissions levels
  • over a dozen different trim levels

so yeah, we're only selling one model......
Congratulations - you offer the one model in a few body styles, engine combinations and meet your legal obligations on emissions.

His point still stands, regardless from your point of view, from ours its one car that gets all the attention.
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Congratulations - you offer the one model in a few body styles, engine combinations and meet your legal obligations on emissions.

His point still stands, regardless from your point of view, from ours its one car that gets all the attention.
What would you rather? "One car" with a massive amount of research and development thrown at it.... or several and the same amount of r&d has to be shared across all of them?

Are they learning lessons and applying it to the new model or nah? Even if it was just one car, I'd rather just the one if it meant all their focus was on making that one better and reliable.
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lets be clear the other Fords on sale here do have development teams, they are just not based in Australia.
It only make sense that the Australian designed one is their best seller here.


For me the new features including the electronic shifter, bring Ford back into my shopping list, really keen to get a drive of both Ranger & Everest now.
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Congratulations - you offer the one model in a few body styles, engine combinations and meet your legal obligations on emissions.

His point still stands, regardless from your point of view, from ours its one car that gets all the attention.
FFS some are just grumps of universal proportions, lets not forget Bronco comes off this platform, it's Ford US that has chosen not to go RHD so you have Ranger, Everest and Bronco with varying levels of Australian engineering involved....
I'd hazard a guess between Transit and Ranger these are the two most widely sold models by Ford globally and while the F-150 kills them all for outright sale it isn't offered officially anywhere apart from NA & SA. so it's R&D team didn't have so many competing requirements plus VW wanting their own non-negotiables for Amarok.
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Nice upgrade. Hybrid coming in 2025?
Why wait til 2025? Why not get ahead of the curve for once?
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FFS some are just grumps of universal proportions
FMD. Some of you take the p1ss out of Ford for dropping models left right and centre and becoming a one trick pony, I make one little joke and you all start losing your sh1t. Who are the grumps....
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FMD. Some of you take the p1ss out of Ford for dropping models left right and centre and becoming a one trick pony, I make one little joke and you all start losing your sh1t. Who are the grumps....
Just pointing out that some are underestimating just how huge this program was as Simon pointed out....not grumpy, more proud of what this team can do when they are given the resources....and they still achieve more from every cent they are given.
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Looks great.... Lots of the features lifted from the Ftruck parts bin.......even down to the interior door handles...

Ford putting all their eggs in one basket. Lets hope its a winner and Toyota don't come up with something better.

If it doesn't take off - Ford will follow Holden out the door in Australia!! They have nothing else....
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nah, we do
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Looks great.... Lots of the features lifted from the Ftruck parts bin.......even down to the interior door handles...

Ford putting all their eggs in one basket. Lets hope its a winner and Toyota don't come up with something better.

If it doesn't take off - Ford will follow Holden out the door in Australia!! They have nothing else....
Ford are/were a bit different to Holden, Ranger was already their most popular vehicle here while they were still manufacturing Falcon.

They have a much bigger range of imported vehicles all made by ford, not rebadged daewoos or Isuzus. Ford are only missing a decent Family SUV

they wont be going out the door anytime soon.
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because those rotary shifters are f'kn horrible. The Ranger design actually started off that way, but soon changed
Yeah i drove some of those early ones with the rotary dial shifter. Terrible. Un-ergonomic. Backwards step.

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Looks great.... Lots of the features lifted from the Ftruck parts bin.......even down to the interior door handles...

Ford putting all their eggs in one basket. Lets hope its a winner and Toyota don't come up with something better.

If it doesn't take off - Ford will follow Holden out the door in Australia!! They have nothing else....
Rubbish. Ford Australia does not live and die on Ranger sales. It’s sold in 180 countries ffs. Holden are gone cause GM stopped building RHD, cause they pulled out of the biggest RHD markets years ago.
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You don't think so? I think it looks a lot 'tougher' than the previous models, it's boxier, the front styling looks more aggressive and the car overall has some real mecha vibes. I wouldn't be surprised if the designers were manga or anime fans
Not sure why. It just looks tiny. I know it’s bigger than the current model, It must just be the pictures. I’m sure it will have a big tough look on the road.
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if only they had a bigger 4.5T GVM to go up against the LC70
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I reckon its looks great though not a fan of all these screens and touch controls that are popping up everywhere in cars these days.
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I reckon its looks great though not a fan of all these screens and touch controls that are popping up everywhere in cars these days.
I tend to agree with you. My 21 Outback has the 11.2" portrait touch screen also and I think its overkill. Plus a lot of the cars functionality relies on the infotainment system interface. You also have to scroll through 2 or 3 menus to switch off/on and adjust aspects of the car which is more annoying. I hope the new Ranger doesn't rely on this tech to operate because I can tell you now, a lot will not like it.
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Rubbish. Ford Australia does not live and die on Ranger sales. It’s sold in 180 countries ffs. Holden are gone cause GM stopped building RHD, cause they pulled out of the biggest RHD markets years ago.
I stopped reading after the eggs in one basket crap, it’s becoming the whiners refrain
almost wishing disaster on it just to be right, Like reserving a future told ya so……..

Good grief, Ford has a “ten year old Ute” that shames most, if not all the competition,
when people start taking the new Ranger for a drive, there’s no way most could go back
to a noisy clattering of a competitor’s POS. It’s that good, anyone who’s owned a V6 Terry will agree…

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I stopped reading after the eggs in one basket crap, it’s becoming the whiners refrain
almost wishing disaster on it just to be right, Like reserving a future told ya so……..

Good grief, Ford has a “ten year old Ute” that shames most, if not all the competition,
when people start taking the new Ranger for a drive, there’s no way most could go back
to a noisy clattering of a competitor’s POS. It’s that good, anyone who’s owned a V6 Terry will agree…
Well us Terry diesel owners will have some idea....yes we experience daily the smoothness of the 2.7V6 tdi however we only have 140kW and 6 speeds, this will be 180kW+/~600Nm turning 10 speeds of hopefully recalibrated shifts and closer ratios...

I hope the Everest gets some of those different colour interior shots on some of the OS Youtube channels.
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Keep in mind their marketing department

Hopefully no walking fingers this time like the FG Falcon launch
or "copulatory process" as in the Everest Sport ad..
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Yeah i drove some of those early ones with the rotary dial shifter. Terrible. Un-ergonomic. Backwards step.
Does the shifter serve a purpose still, ie, tiptronic mode or is it all controlled by the buttons? Genuine question.

The focus/escape setup is great. Much better access to storage areas etc without a gearstick in the way but I do accept that the ranger is a vehicle for many different purposes.
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I think there is still a piece of the puzzle missing.
Is the Ranger / Everest going to have a Sasquatch Package equivalent that has lifted suspension and runs 35" Tyres?
It seems a waste to put all that development into the Bronco and not see it here.
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After going through the specs and release details. This Ranger has everything I'd be after in a ute. I quite like the new Isuzu D-MAX, but this Ranger is next level.
It will sell like hot cakes if they can get enough stock.
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let's unpack this a little shall we?

in 2010 for PX1 we launched with 3 body styles, 3 engines, 3 transmissions and 2 emissions levels. We staggered the stg5 launch because the workload was too much

in 2015 for PX2 we freshened the cars and added the SUV body style. We also added stg6 emissions for the Euro markets

in 2018 for PX3 we added the Raptor and the 2.0 Panther engine in single- and bi-turbo forms in both manual and auto. Upgraded the Euro cars to stg6.1 emissions

in 2019 we introduced Ranger into North America with a unique engine, transmission and emissions level. While looking superficially the same as the rest of world model the body and chassis were essentially all new

Let's list out the engineering work we've just completed and are still working on. Without giving anything away. We concurrently engineered:
  • 5 different bodies
  • 7 different engines
  • 5 different transmissions
  • 4 different drivelines
  • 5 different emissions levels
  • over a dozen different trim levels

so yeah, we're only selling one model......
WHAT! How dare you bring reasoned insider information into this thread!

Seriously, you have every right to be proud of the work you guys have achieved.

Both my father and I have had two Rangers each over the years, I basically live in my PX II Ranger. Is it exciting to drive, no. Is it an asthmatic slug, yes. But it does everything I ask of it.

So, in a change from the negativity, I want to say thanks to you and Ford for making a vehicle I can use, abuse and earn me a living from.
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After going through the specs and release details. This Ranger has everything I'd be after in a ute. I quite like the new Isuzu D-MAX, but this Ranger is next level.
It will sell like hot cakes if they can get enough stock.
I'm in the same position... My SSVR is going in for some work (Big Stereo/engine work) so I require a daily. Mustang order is cancelled (for availability and pragmatic reasons). Was going to get into a DMAX X-Terrain, a mate has had one for a few months and its pretty decent... Held off until the release video this week.. Glad I did, a step forward in the segment.. Competitors should be worried...

As of this morning I have a deposit on a V6 Diesel Sports in Meteor Grey. Pricing not confirmed (well this dealer couldnt tell me) so its pending that and availability... Bring it on...
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It all sounds good so far but I'm not sold on the looks. To my eyes, this render of the Amarok looks better.

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