Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > Non Ford Related Community Forums > The Bar

The Bar For non Automotive Related Chat

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-03-2016, 08:17 PM   #31
Ben73
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Ben73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NSW
Posts: 4,333
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Funny when people say Trump has some good ideas. He has nothing.
50% of what he says is stupid stuff that will never happen (build a big wall between US and Mexico, deport all Muslims)
The other 50% is something he will say in the spur of the moment, then say the exact opposite a week later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGc2nN9OguQ
Ben73 is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 06-03-2016, 08:25 PM   #32
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,244
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Bush
Clinton
Bush
Token black guy

Then in the running you've got another Bush and another Clinton.

The nation of the 'free', yeah right
Franco Cozzo is online now  
2 users like this post:
Old 06-03-2016, 08:30 PM   #33
Jess1992
Regular Member
 
Jess1992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 252
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Trump is popular because people are sick of the same fake and paid for politicians and ruling class. They don't care he makes ridiculous statements because it can't be any worse than how they have it now
Jess1992 is offline  
4 users like this post:
Old 06-03-2016, 08:41 PM   #34
mcflux
Banned
Donating Member1
 
mcflux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,313
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Trump is popular because voting is not compulsory in the US and most non-voters are likely morons. Trump epically sledges his opponents rather than focuses on consistent and considered policies. Trump speaks and acts emotively and knows how to whip up a crowd into a frenzy. Trump knows how to get all of the attention from the media.

Someone said earlier - Trump is in this for Trump. Not for the US or for the world.
mcflux is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 06-03-2016, 11:02 PM   #35
Mesa
Donating Member
Donating Member2
 
Mesa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hunter Valley
Posts: 4,186
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Trump above all else is a salesman. Apparently a good one at that. A good salesman knows what is the best product to sell his clients. Trump is selling the mythical American Dream which is exactly what the majority of disenfranchised voters of America want to hear. Like voters everywhere Americans are sick of untrustworthy career politicians with little compassion on the issues that affect the majority of its constituents and zero motivation other than how to save their *** at the next election. Not that he'd do much better but at least he telling them what they want to hear.

The American media were way too pre occupied poking fun at his hair, arrogance, ego to take him seriously and missed the chance to put pressure on him.

In short, it appears the American public would rather a lunatic run the asylum than another career politician.
Mesa is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 07-03-2016, 06:40 AM   #36
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,244
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Trump seems like a lunatic, but given he has money behind him he probably isn't taking election funding in return for favors from companies/banks etc like the other candidates would be.

Some of the media footage I've seen where all the candidates are tearing shreds off each other, they all look smarmy and fake and act like clowns.
Franco Cozzo is online now  
3 users like this post:
Old 07-03-2016, 06:53 AM   #37
superyob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,814
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SYZ View Post
I'm guessing the critical difference between Obama's and Cruz's citizenship status is that one's an African-American, and the other a good ol' Christian white boy. Obviously a racist divide? The only voice in the wilderness questioning the validity of Cruz's presidential nomination is that of Donald Drumpf, AKA Trump.

I'm guessing that Trump will be knocked out of the race sometime soon in the next 8 months—when the Americans hopefully come to their senses. The potential Trump versus China/Korea scenario would concern me somewhat—to say the least.
I hope you are right...
superyob is offline  
Old 07-03-2016, 07:08 AM   #38
OzriderXR8
Regular Member
 
OzriderXR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: West of Melbourne
Posts: 488
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Damo View Post
Trump seems like a lunatic, but given he has money behind him he probably isn't taking election funding in return for favors from companies/banks etc like the other candidates would be.

Some of the media footage I've seen where all the candidates are tearing shreds off each other, they all look smarmy and fake and act like clowns.
I would imagine Trump has built his empire on board room deals with companies and banks, I doubt he'll be using his own money.
__________________
Cheers Ozrider

AUII XR8 200KW
FG MK2 XR6
Mini 850
Rover P5 3 Litre Mk1
OzriderXR8 is offline  
Old 07-03-2016, 09:06 AM   #39
mcflux
Banned
Donating Member1
 
mcflux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,313
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...campaign-sort/

The graphical data is dated, but it appears he's loaning himself a significant portion of the campaign funding. Meaning he'll pay himself back.
mcflux is offline  
Old 07-03-2016, 09:49 AM   #40
mechanic
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Cairns FNQ
Posts: 603
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

" where all the candidates are tearing shreds off each other, they all look smarmy and fake and act like clowns." - big damo

I don't think the yanks have got that all to themselves.
mechanic is offline  
Old 07-03-2016, 09:55 AM   #41
Rodp
Regular Schmuck
 
Rodp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,670
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by marty351 View Post
Trump is a businessman.
A very bad one. An easy way to lose your shirt is to invest in one of Trump's 'ventures'. An excellent salesman, a poor businessman.

He's entertaining to watch, that I'll give him - but the entertainment mainly comes from his buffoonery and his inability to articulate a coherent answer to a question, instead he usually opts to go on the offensive in order to avoid answering a question.

Here's John Oliver skewering Trump. I guess we'll get an update this week as to whether Trump uses his oft threats of law suits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGc2nN9OguQ

Breakdown of his language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI
Rodp is offline  
2 users like this post:
Old 07-03-2016, 10:47 AM   #42
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,244
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mechanic View Post
" where all the candidates are tearing shreds off each other, they all look smarmy and fake and act like clowns." - big damo

I don't think the yanks have got that all to themselves.
Ours are bad enough but this crop of for the USA take it to a lower level, you don't have three of ours standing behind lecturns openly going on the offensive with personal insults for the camera trying to gee up the crowd.
Franco Cozzo is online now  
This user likes this post:
Old 07-03-2016, 04:11 PM   #43
Mesa
Donating Member
Donating Member2
 
Mesa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hunter Valley
Posts: 4,186
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Ours are in the early stages. They're only up to the stage of having the compulsory noddy dogs stand behind them silently shaking their heads yes or no while their lips move saying 'thats right'.
Mesa is offline  
Old 07-03-2016, 07:21 PM   #44
sprintman1
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: ACT
Posts: 971
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Hilary in a landslide. The only one actually qualified to do the job
sprintman1 is offline  
Old 07-03-2016, 08:14 PM   #45
superyob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,814
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

How so? ^^^
superyob is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 07-03-2016, 08:41 PM   #46
CoupeKing
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,323
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

I would have thought Trump for sure. There comes a time when we need balls and brains combined, not just brains and good speakers. But considering people can vote against someone they dislike rather than their policies, Hilary could take the 'Torch'

Obama got plenty of his voters from Youtube campaigns and getting spammed on T.V - Oprah and Tyra Banks show. All stay-home-mums voted for a charismatic guy, with a nice smile and good voice...So I guess that crowd won't be voting for Trump.
CoupeKing is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 08-03-2016, 02:38 AM   #47
Giant Cranium
PURSUIT 250
Donating Member2
 
Giant Cranium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: sydney
Posts: 5,755
Default US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

If trump gets in I'm moving back to Australia. It really scares me that people think he would be a good president. Don't get me wrong he has done a lot of great things in NYC and other charity events but as president... Holy **** I'm out!
Giant Cranium is offline  
Old 08-03-2016, 03:12 AM   #48
Moby Vic
Cynical Idealist
 
Moby Vic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 1,512
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by marty351 View Post
And the theorists begin.

Freedom of speech, political gain, respect.
That's how it works.



China is another matter, Trump is a businessman.
Trump is an excellent self-promoter, and that's it. His business ventures haven't really done that well, and he inherited millions.
__________________
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
Moby Vic is offline  
3 users like this post:
Old 08-03-2016, 04:24 PM   #49
chevypower
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
chevypower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 3,489
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by superyob View Post
How so? ^^^
Because the media and all the Hollywood celebrities told him it was so, therefore it must be true. I must admit, the Trump appeal got me for a while. Then I went to a Marco Rubio rally last night and heard his message unfiltered by the media. This man is qualified to be President! But there's not enough drama, so the media isn't giving him much coverage. How can you tell the media drives the narrative? Not one person here mentioned Rubio or Kaisich. Rubio didn't mention Trump's name once last night in Idaho. No drama, no coverage.

Last edited by chevypower; 08-03-2016 at 04:29 PM.
chevypower is offline  
2 users like this post:
Old 09-03-2016, 12:05 AM   #50
Moby Vic
Cynical Idealist
 
Moby Vic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 1,512
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by chevypower View Post
Because the media and all the Hollywood celebrities told him it was so, therefore it must be true. I must admit, the Trump appeal got me for a while. Then I went to a Marco Rubio rally last night and heard his message unfiltered by the media. This man is qualified to be President! But there's not enough drama, so the media isn't giving him much coverage. How can you tell the media drives the narrative? Not one person here mentioned Rubio or Kaisich. Rubio didn't mention Trump's name once last night in Idaho. No drama, no coverage.
As a Floridian I have to say Rubio doesn't impress me. I think he's too young and ambitious. I like Kasich because he seems reasonable, but I don't know much about him. I just haven't found reasons to dislike him the way I do the others.

I liked Christie until he endorsed Trump.
__________________
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
Moby Vic is offline  
Old 10-03-2016, 09:18 PM   #51
Full_Monty
Regular Member
 
Full_Monty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 146
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

I hope Sanders gets the gig, failing that - Trump.
Or anyone before another illuminati /skull & Bones initiated corporate owned puppet (Hil-lie-ry) leading the world to more bloodshed and chaos in the name of the fabricated war on terror.
A Sanders or Trump will be a major hurdle to the NWO.

It all matters a lot, given the commonwealth of Australia is listed as a corporation, alongside McDonalds on the US Securities Exchange Commission, we're all owned by the US Federal Reserve as commodities, including you and I via our Legal names listed on our Birth certificates, and including all the nations mineral wealth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmpaw3GJ3Ak

Last edited by Full_Monty; 10-03-2016 at 09:28 PM.
Full_Monty is offline  
Old 10-03-2016, 11:06 PM   #52
GasoLane
Former BTIKD
Donating Member2
 
GasoLane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunny Downtown Wagga Wagga. NSW.
Posts: 53,233
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Full_Monty View Post
I hope Sanders gets the gig, failing that - Trump.
Or anyone before another illuminati /skull & Bones initiated corporate owned puppet (Hil-lie-ry) leading the world to more bloodshed and chaos in the name of the fabricated war on terror.
A Sanders or Trump will be a major hurdle to the NWO.

It all matters a lot, given the commonwealth of Australia is listed as a corporation, alongside McDonalds on the US Securities Exchange Commission, we're all owned by the US Federal Reserve as commodities, including you and I via our Legal names listed on our Birth certificates, and including all the nations mineral wealth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmpaw3GJ3Ak
Is there a full Moon tonight?
__________________
Dying at your job is natures way of saying that you're in the wrong line of work.
GasoLane is offline  
4 users like this post:
Old 10-03-2016, 11:53 PM   #53
MethodX
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
MethodX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,205
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Sanders ftw... wants to make America like Europe again...
Hell anyone but a republican..... that party is nuts...

Hopefully is trump wins and there is another war, aus and Italy wont follow like always.
MethodX is offline  
Old 11-03-2016, 12:08 AM   #54
anto
Za Dom spremni
 
anto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,759
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Sanders is a Marxist and America was never like Europe, it cast aside all the old European ways from its founding...a good thing.

Ted cruz is the only hope they have out of the existing candidates., sadly I don't think he'll get the numbers.

Trump or Clinton...fail !!!!!!!!
__________________
2017 red mustang GT manual
XB coupe 351 4spd sunroof onyx black
XBGT 4 door Sunroof apollo blue
AU III XR8 red ute
anto is offline  
2 users like this post:
Old 11-03-2016, 12:13 AM   #55
MethodX
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
MethodX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,205
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by anto View Post
Sanders is a Marxist and America was never like Europe, it cast aside all the old European ways from its founding...a good thing.

Ted cruz is the only hope they have out of the existing candidates., sadly I don't think he'll get the numbers.

Trump or Clinton...fail !!!!!!!!

He is a centrist progressive.
America should have stayed with England, at least they would have a system that works now.

European nations have parties from all across the political spectrum.
America has 2 right wing parties basically.
MethodX is offline  
Old 11-03-2016, 01:49 AM   #56
SYZ
Beaut Ute
 
SYZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Gippsland, Victoria.
Posts: 630
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Full_Monty View Post
I hope Sanders gets the gig, failing that - Trump.
Or anyone before another illuminati /skull & Bones initiated corporate owned puppet (Hil-lie-ry) leading the world to more bloodshed and chaos in the name of the fabricated war on terror.
A Sanders or Trump will be a major hurdle to the NWO.

It all matters a lot, given the commonwealth of Australia is listed as a corporation, alongside McDonalds on the US Securities Exchange Commission, we're all owned by the US Federal Reserve as commodities, including you and I via our Legal names listed on our Birth certificates, and including all the nations mineral wealth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmpaw3GJ3Ak
Uh... Currently, there's no such thing as the so-called Illuminati (who ceased to exist as such in 1791) or any New World Order. They're now simply fictional entities created by paranoid conspiracy theorists, or PCTs.

And several PCTs have claimed that Hillary Clinton is part of the alleged NWO.
When the former FBI Agent, Gary Aldrich, wrote his book, "Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside The Clinton White House", he strenuously wanted to expose both the Clinton's actions which allegedly endangered US National Security. Little did he realise, when he was reporting personal observations of the Clinton's behaviour, that he was providing iron-clad proof that Bill and Hillary are, indeed, powerful Illuminist witches! [http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1224.cfm] I kid you not.

I note that Romley Stewart Stover (YouTube link) is obviously short of a few cents in the dollar.
__________________
—Cortina Mark I, Escort Mark 2, XR Falcon 500, XE Falcon 4.1 S-Pack, Laser KC Ghia, EF Falcon GLi, BF XR8 Boss 260
SYZ is offline  
Old 11-03-2016, 07:40 AM   #57
superyob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,814
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SYZ View Post
Uh... Currently, there's no such thing as the so-called Illuminati (who ceased to exist as such in 1791) or any New World Order. They're now simply fictional entities created by paranoid conspiracy theorists, or PCTs.

And several PCTs have claimed that Hillary Clinton is part of the alleged NWO.
When the former FBI Agent, Gary Aldrich, wrote his book, "Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside The Clinton White House", he strenuously wanted to expose both the Clinton's actions which allegedly endangered US National Security. Little did he realise, when he was reporting personal observations of the Clinton's behaviour, that he was providing iron-clad proof that Bill and Hillary are, indeed, powerful Illuminist witches! [http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1224.cfm] I kid you not.

I note that Romley Stewart Stover (YouTube link) is obviously short of a few cents in the dollar.
Not disagreeing with you Syz but on the other hand, this quote “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist,” may also be relevant...

Trump is a clown, Hillary is 'the' devil. Both are distasteful...
superyob is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 11-03-2016, 07:59 AM   #58
Moby Vic
Cynical Idealist
 
Moby Vic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 1,512
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MethodX View Post
America should have stayed with England, at least they would have a system that works now.
Ha! You mustn't remember England of the 1970s and early 1980s.
__________________
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
Moby Vic is offline  
Old 11-03-2016, 08:19 AM   #59
MethodX
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
MethodX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,205
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moby Vic View Post
Ha! You mustn't remember England of the 1970s and early 1980s.
lol, you must remember America since the well always...
MethodX is offline  
Old 11-03-2016, 08:35 AM   #60
CoupeKing
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,323
Default Re: US Presidential Elections - Boring or Important to Australia?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MethodX View Post
He is a centrist progressive.
America should have stayed with England, at least they would have a system that works now.

European nations have parties from all across the political spectrum.
America has 2 right wing parties basically.
What?
CoupeKing is offline  
This user likes this post:
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 12:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL