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If they are making a Super Duty then what Duty are the current Rangers?
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30-11-2024, 08:13 PM | #754 | ||
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I've seen a couple water companies with big fleets of single cab new Rangers though that use them for the getting shit done crew. |
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01-12-2024, 09:01 AM | #757 | |||
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Ironically it doesn't really work because to allow yourself to tow something heavier, you have to keep the tow vehicle lighter, which is not what you want. Everest is a heavy car so even though 70 series wagon gvm is slightly less, the payload is a couple of hundred kg higher, which is fairly significant. No rear axle ratings in the link you provided but I'm pretty sure 70 series is significantly higher than Everest in this area also. I don't think it's worth trying to chase those buyers with Everest. I think Ford are on the right path with SD and building a car to suit the purpose, rather than just tweaking an existing platform.
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This article appeared in The Australian Mining Review a few days ago. Quote:
Thinking about the Ranger's development road map a bit more and making a few wild guesses ... it makes me wonder if the Super Duty is a subtle way to avoid some of the flak from the current ALP/Greens/Teal/YourABC about "SUV" size and emissions. One would assume that the Ranger PHEV (which will be premium priced) will take some of the demand off the V6 production. Assuming that a Super Duty pinches some sales from Toyota, with a GCM of 8,000 kg, it would be a nice way of keeping the V6 production line at full steam in what is clearly a highly specialised work vehicle (as opposed to an F150 as an urban runabout). |
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01-12-2024, 10:44 AM | #759 | |||
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The 70 series SW specs are just a bit more in critical figures but my thoughts were also about being able to safely towing 3,500 kg with a fully loaded Everest and whether a slight upgrade is needed to keep owners on the right side of the law, a note to just how good the older LC SW was.Im also mindful that the Toyota may do something like that with new LC Prado in the near future…….. Edit, Toyota already done it with LC Prado GCW 6600 kg while Everest is 6,250 kg Both have GVM in that 3,100 to 3,150/3,200 kg zone so the new Prado has a about 350 kg more to load up the vehicle….something for Ford to think about. (not looking at the SD 8,000 kg GCW figure, something a lot less..) Last edited by jpd80; 01-12-2024 at 11:10 AM. |
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a luxury pack on the XLT trim rather than a whole new vehicle trim like Platinum.. With such a specific build, minimum production line changes are probably better in regards to building a stock item that dealers can add to their fast moving inventory |
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01-12-2024, 01:23 PM | #761 | |||
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The higher gcm with the Toyota will make it easier to stay legal if you're towing a trailer approaching the legal max.
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01-12-2024, 02:16 PM | #762 | |||
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Anyway I'll leave it there. If Ford are happy to market it as a base model only then that's up to them. |
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They did it back when the 7th Gen Fiesta launched in Australia, they brought in 80% of the volume as povvo spec CL models, when the majority of customers wanted the top spec Zetec models, which ended up with huge waits ex Germany. |
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Prado GCW = 6,600 kg - 3,200 GVM = 3,400 kg for towing but have 350 kg less ball weight so probably OK Everest GCW = 6,250 kg - 3,200 GVM = 3,050 kg for towing but have 350 kg less ball weight so maybe less than 3,500 kg trailer? I know my math probably has errors in it but the Everest looks to have a bit more issue clearing the combined weight hurdle. |
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Chuck a ZU-23-2 on the back, |
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The Boss would always get a bigger RAM and put a German 88mm flak on the back...
But yeah we are all good for post-apocalypse.
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01-12-2024, 06:43 PM | #769 | ||
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MetaAI is junk, can only get it to generate a PXII/III and an extremely poor approximation of a Russian ZU-23-2 on the back of it. http://menglongli.com/94.html |
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01-12-2024, 06:44 PM | #770 | |||
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Ford have used GCM to limit the Everests towing ability while still being able to market the car as having 3.5t towing. It just means if you have a 3t trailer and more than a couple of passengers you really can't utilise the full payload capacity of the tow vehicle. Prado's issue is, even though GCM is higher, the vehicle GVM and smaller payload will be the limiting factor. With some models only having around 600kg payload, by the time you factor in ball weight (300-350kg) fuel (100kg) driver (it's a prado so 120kg ) you've basically already maxxed out the payload. Both cars are examples of manufacturers just tweaking figures to keep sales rather than building a proper heavy duty tow vehicle. The Everest you can tow the full 3.5t legally but you'd still be limited with how much you could pack in the car. The extra 100kg GVM is actually more useful than the Prado's increased GCM.
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Hahaha Franco, now you're talking.
And the Cruiser is actually a 1/35 Meng kit? wow. They do some good kits.
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02-12-2024, 12:39 PM | #772 | |||
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Add a full dual battery setup of its kind/capacity to an Everest and you'll lose payload too. |
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02-12-2024, 09:12 PM | #773 | ||
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Interested to see the various "Thailand Specials" sales numbers for November and which model gets impacted the most by those 4000 orders of Shark.
Do "orders" count in the monthly figures or is it "deliveries" only , as I believe customers wont be getting their Sharks till late Jan. |
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Deliveries to customers.
Prydey - was based on registrations once but that was replaced with the VFACTS system which is each manufacturer reporting its deliveries. |
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04-12-2024, 10:02 PM | #776 | ||
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This flog has it in for Ford. But is he wrong in this instance…
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05-12-2024, 10:10 AM | #777 | ||
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the next nice thing JC says about Ford, will be the first. Probably because Ford doesn't give him freebies like other manufacturers.
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05-12-2024, 11:25 AM | #778 | ||
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He's probably the one dude in automotive media that DOESNT take freebies from them. Dont get me wrong, he's a tool but he's a tool that tends to make some pretty good points alot of the time. His irrational hate of anything Ute/Caravan is entertaining at the very least...
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Don’t think he’s covered class action against Hyundai/Kia engines. Bet your bottom dollar if it was Ford he’d be covering it every week. |
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