FG X XR6 Turbo - Limited edition

[apolloxbgt]

For those in the know (boss xr8) would the dsc calibration from the rspec work with the 6, or would it need it's own calibration?
If it needs a new calibration it seems unlikely it would get the staggered rims.

[SensationFG8]

I reckon a 6t swan song seems most likely, especially given ford have ruled out a 351 XR8.

Makes a lot of sense to do a limited run of f6 engined fgx.

[lucas2]

Would it be possible to run the current turbo engine, up-spec to F6 injectors and intercooler, but add the cat (or similar) from the Miami and alter the tune. The less restrictive Miami cat coupled with the GT3576 (small turbo) could match the F6 easily for power but improve the response.

[fgpsi]

Was told today if I ordered an xr8 I'll have to wait till April

[Chopped]

Maybe this "special" will be a handling pack, R spec suspension, brembos etc. Otherwise it will be competing with the XR8.

[Top_Ghia]

Originally Posted by Chopped

Maybe this "special" will be a handling pack, R spec suspension, brembos etc. Otherwise it will be competing with the XR8.

So what? The XR6T/F6 has always been better than the XR8/GT equivalent.
Probably excluding the GT-F.

[Chopped]

^ hhmmm maybe up until the supercharged 8 arrived to the FPV stables

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Chopped

Maybe this "special" will be a handling pack, R spec suspension, brembos etc. Otherwise it will be competing with the XR8.

But that's the whole point of the XR6T, or at least, should be. The only difference between the two is the engine. Performance should be about line ball and equipped to the same level. This gives people the choice of a 6T or a V8 and still have the same performance.

I don't think the 6T should be held back. If Ford can stick the 310 motor in the XR6T, they should do so.

[Chopped]

I think marketing wise you need a clearly defined hero of the range. I say keep the new XR8 as king.

The turbo should be aimed and marketed against the lower priced SS.

[2242100]

Originally Posted by lucas2

Would it be possible to run the current turbo engine, up-spec to F6 injectors and intercooler, but add the cat (or similar) from the Miami and alter the tune. The less restrictive Miami cat coupled with the GT3576 (small turbo) could match the F6 easily for power but improve the response.

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if that's just about the way it ends up except for the Miami Cat (I believe XR6 T and F6 have had the same Cat although I may be wrong).
On the subject of the other mods you mentioned, it's generally believed that the basic Turbo's injectors are near their limit, so F6 injectors seem like a "no brainer" to me and the bigger intercooler would be a good idea too, but I can't see Ford wanting to spend too much and push the price too high, particularly if better tyres, RSpec suspension and better brakes are included. So I'm thinking perhaps no F6 Turbo. They could have a very fast car without it, and I don't think it's a good idea to have it it too close to an XR8 in performance.

Judging by my own untuned XR6 T Auto's performance (12.509 sec 1/4 at WSID), it seems they are within around one and a half tenths (approx 7-8 metres) of the XR8 Auto over the Quarter, with the Miami getting the gain after 100 kmh.

So will we see Ford saying that the limited edition XR6T has a minimum of something like 300 or 310 kW plus up to 10% or more from the overboost under the right conditions?

At least if it get's better tyres we might see testers getting better times because as I mentioned in an earlier post, my car can pick up around 4 tenths or more from a high stall up when there is enough grip.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Chopped

I think marketing wise you need a clearly defined hero of the range.

... or two, and let people decide which engine they want.

It would be great to see the 310kW XR6T with 275 section rear tyres and launch control.

[geobar]

If this car ever comes to life (don't believe nothing until I see it) I have placed a deposit with my dealer depending on spec and price.

I do envisage a new XR8 spec car with a I6T motor with 300+ kW in it for the same price if not a little cheaper than the new XR8.

As expected the dealer has no idea about it and has drawn up contract based on the XR6 Turbo. He did mention there is some Ford event around the second week of December where something officially may be mentioned there, but least see.

George

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by Chopped

I think marketing wise you need a clearly defined hero of the range. I say keep the new XR8 as king.

The turbo should be aimed and marketed against the lower priced SS.

But what if this rumoured turbo comes with the same equipment level as the XR8 and is the quicker of the two, which is more than likely? Which one is the Hero car then?.............the GT got the free pass last time around because that badge is steeped in racing history. Does the XR8 badge have that sort of cred?........sorry i just realised this is starting to sound like a HULK Friday night thread

Cheers Mick

[QIKESP]

Originally Posted by apolloxbgt

For those in the know (boss xr8) would the dsc calibration from the rspec work with the 6, or would it need it's own calibration?
If it needs a new calibration it seems unlikely it would get the staggered rims.

The DSC is car specific, so effectively it would be modified to correct the weight bias between the 6 and 8 and the change in available grip at each corner.

[apolloxbgt]

I read on here, that to recalibrate the dsc costs millions. If it needs to be re calibrated there is no business case for staggered rims on the 6 for a limited run.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by HO 3

........sorry i just realised this is starting to sound like a HULK Friday night thread

Cheers Mick

really?

[MercurySilver]

yeah kinda


id buy the turbo over the 8
if it had leather
and if i could afford it
which i couldnt

[Tbm1121]

Originally Posted by apolloxbgt

I read on here, that to recalibrate the dsc costs millions. If it needs to be re calibrated there is no business case for staggered rims on the 6 for a limited run.

I agree, they wouldn't have a business case to do this, and if they were thinking of it, it would have been done for the whole run of fgx, the brakes and wheels I can see happening, and upgraded cooler and injectors. But why 310, ford won't step on the f6's toes, they'd leave it as the top I6T they ever had, and the fgx xr le would slot in between the standard T and the f6.

[arronm]

Who cares which one is faster stock. Who keeps their car stock.

I mod mine the first week......

[stazza]

Am I the only that noticed the original article saying the F6 was 315kw?

Seriously what Ford employee wouldn't know how many kw the F6 was?

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by stazza

Am I the only that noticed the original article saying the F6 was 315kw?

Seriously what Ford employee wouldn't know how many kw the F6 was?

Well in reality it wasn't 310 or 315 was it..

[stazza]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

Well in reality it wasn't 310 or 315 was it..

Wow what a stupid response. What would you have them say it was then? The badge says 310kw, so naturally when they're speaking about that engine that's the number you'd expect quoted from a Ford employee?

[geobar]

Anyone heard anything else on this?

George

[CQB-241]

It doesn't make sense to cannibalise XR8 with an F6 spec car with R-spec suspension. It does make sense to be able to price point base SS and kick its **** in the same way that XR8 kicked the SSV Redline in the Top Gear Mag comparison.

[Sioso]

I am that confident they will build it that I changed my username, and have a deposit waiting to go.

[gcg2503]

I am 90% confident a special limited edition XR6T sendoff package will go ahead

This is based on several chats I have had with people in Ford who would know

Of course, like anything, a program can get canned at the last minute

[Falcon SXR8]

Originally Posted by stazza

Am I the only that noticed the original article saying the F6 was 315kw?

Seriously what Ford employee wouldn't know how many kw the F6 was?

Never underestimate how little some ford employees know. I remember driving into a ford dealer with my au xr8 and the bloke there asked what the little badge with wings was

[Polyal]

Supply chain is a different kettle of fish, thats not what his talking about.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

Never underestimate how little some ford employees know. I remember driving into a ford dealer with my au xr8 and the bloke there asked what the little badge with wings was

I know what you are saying, but there is a difference between a Ford Employee and a Ford dealership employee.

[Tbm1121]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

I know what you are saying, but there is a difference between a Ford Employee and a Ford dealership employee.

Dealerships are purposefully kept in the dark, otherwise they would release info instead of ford, then you get incorrect info released