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Old 23-06-2017, 08:54 AM   #1
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Default 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

So much better to watch than an auto getting around there.

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Old 23-06-2017, 09:24 AM   #2
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So much better to watch than an auto getting around there.



Thanks- so good to see.

Tight manual gearbox- each change a solid metallic "snick", and the driver working the wheel with the nannies off, jagging the wheel on the corners to attack and pre-empt excessive oversteer under throttle.

Love the driver working out his fingers to stretch on straights-breath of fresh air to see real driving of a high power manual rear drive car.

And this lap was not perfect- a few corners the driver lost time putting in too much throttle and having excessive oversteer causing loss of time-but I suppose the track is so long it is really hard in 7 minutes hard driving getting a perfect lap.
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Old 23-06-2017, 10:22 AM   #3
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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

That's impressive. It beat a heap of Euros and is positioned 14th of all-time with a base price of 70k? Even 140k that's great. I guess they're back.

Don't know how updated this is but here's what it beat, amazing.
https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
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Old 23-06-2017, 10:50 AM   #4
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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

That's quick, what a rush...wish I had his job
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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed that. Braked that hard a couple of times my thong slid on the floor.
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Old 23-06-2017, 05:39 PM   #6
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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

Great video, thanks for sharing! Very impressive (brave & skillful) drive, the new Camaro seems to be in its element there at the ring.

I still like the new Mustang more though lol!

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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

Has the GT350 clocked a time there ?
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Old 23-06-2017, 06:05 PM   #8
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I think this would make the GT350 look like a child around there (GT350R did a 7:32). 130+ more HP, a boat load more torque and a better chassis. The Camaro chassis is seriously good from what I understand.
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I don't think the Ford ever gave an official number for the GT350R.

I'm more impressed that the Camaro destroyed the euros (except Porsche).

So much for anything American is only good in a straight line.....
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Is this Camaro GT350R money ?
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Old 23-06-2017, 08:26 PM   #11
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It looks like a **** load of fun that's for sure
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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

So good to see a bloody manual around there. The autos are boring as bat poo. That's some pretty good wheel work there.
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Whens the 2018 ZR1 do a lap
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Last of the Vipers gets timed next month so I hear. It's a naturally aspirated RWD manual production car with a base price of 130k.

Seeing that a 2010 Viper is sitting in 10th place, this bad-boy should shave a second or two of that time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlO9F-r65gc

Gotta love the HP war!
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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

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Last of the Vipers gets timed next month so I hear. It's a naturally aspirated RWD manual production car with a base price of 130k.

Seeing that a 2010 Viper is sitting in 10th place, this bad-boy should shave a second or two of that time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlO9F-r65gc

Gotta love the HP war!
Will be interesting to see what time the last of the Vipers does.

One thing for sure it wouldn't do a good time with one of those "Top Gear" drift ****ers driving it. I guess it's good for TV land but those guys throwing some seriously good cars into wild oversteer slides and and saying how good they are make me cringe.
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Will be interesting to see what time the last of the Vipers does.

One thing for sure it wouldn't do a good time with one of those "Top Gear" drift ****ers driving it. I guess it's good for TV land but those guys throwing some seriously good cars into wild oversteer slides and and saying how good they are make me cringe.
All that HP and torgue on a small and tight track, gonna be wild.
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Old 24-06-2017, 10:08 AM   #17
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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

That is a serious bit of kit and driving right there. Great effort.
Would also like to see a lap around Laguna Seca too for comparison.
Hats off to GM.
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Is this Camaro GT350R money ?
Don't know the figures, but the base ZL1 is a GT500 competitor with the supercharged engine. The ZL1 1LE would be a GT500R type car then, if Ford were to go that way. The Z/28 that is rumoured to be coming should match alot closer to the GT350 and variants.
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Don't know the figures, but the base ZL1 is a GT500 competitor with the supercharged engine. The ZL1 1LE would be a GT500R type car then, if Ford were to go that way. The Z/28 that is rumoured to be coming should match alot closer to the GT350 and variants.
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Old 24-06-2017, 12:28 PM   #20
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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

Noticed the Top Gear facebook post claiming it's faster than a 911 GT2 RS... of course they conveniently forgot to mention it was the 2010 model

Maybe they should change the title to "650hp ZL1 ILE only 3 seconds slower than a 911 GT3 around the 'Ring"

Regardless, 7:16 is an impressive time for a Camaro with 305/325 section tyres and a big wing.

And good to see they used the manual version.. I suspect they realised the 10-speed auto is actually slower due to all the extra gear shifts.

Eagerly awaiting the new GT500... rumours are it will have over 750hp !
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They still got the ZR1 too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yVjmtCjEwE
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Great vid.
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Default Re: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual - Nurburgring 7:16

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I don't think the Ford ever gave an official number for the GT350R.

I'm more impressed that the Camaro destroyed the euros (except Porsche).

So much for anything American is only good in a straight line.....
Ford never record times there. Any times posted are from people not associated with ford, and who knows what the drivers standard is.
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