Falcon bad news. - Page 8

**DJM83** · 16-03-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

Mustang is the car that can go and die for all I care.

If the Flagship GT500 was sold at around the same price as a GTE for example I know what I'd choose and its only got 2 doors

Buntz · 16-03-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

One of my mates has a new gt500 mustang and it smokes any falcon I've ever driven... Out handles a BMW M3..

Yeah I saw that video too. As clear as day the BMW was cornering much better.

The Mustang was using the whole track, crab walking to the edge because the back end didn't act independently. Mustang had the M3 on power... that is all.

**DJM83** · 16-03-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

Yeah I saw that video too. As clear as day the BMW was cornering much better.

The Mustang was using the whole track, crab walking to the edge because the back end didn't act independently. Mustang had the M3 on power... that is all.

All well and good to 'give the opinion of the journos' and take it for gospel like most do......
Stuff the M3 id take the Mustang still

jpd80 · 16-03-2012, 06:42 PM

I have a feeling that the FPV GT would really struggle against the M3,
how about we get Drive or Goauto to do a match up on this side of the pacific..

Buntz · 16-03-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

All well and good to 'give the opinion of the journos' and take it for gospel like most do......
Stuff the M3 id take the Mustang still

It was taken around the track by an american veteran race car driver.... but he probably isn't as good as you though.

**DJM83** · 16-03-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

It was taken around the track by an american veteran race car driver.... but he probably isn't as good as you though.

WTF?
I never said i was gods gift to steering so get off your high horse.
1- I said i wouldnt take their word for gospel.
2- I said some people take journos opinion for gospel.
3- I said id prefer the mustang still.

Maybe re read what people type before quoting them eh.

Buntz · 16-03-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

WTF?
I never said i was gods gift to steering so get off your high horse.
1- I said i wouldnt take their word for gospel.
2- I said id prefer the mustang still.

Maybe re read what people type before quoting them eh.

I wasn't really taking his word... I watched him lap both cars.

**DJM83** · 16-03-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

I wasn't really taking his word... I watched him lap both cars.

Yep ive seen it to, and yeah the average punter would take the M3 based on the review.
Anyway this is for another thread this is about the 'Falcon bad news' not the M3.
Back on topic shall we.

Buntz · 16-03-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Yep ive seen it to, and yeah the average punter would take the M3 based on the review.
Anyway this is for another thread this is about the 'Falcon bad news' not the M3.
Back on topic shall we.

Then the 'average punter' must know what he's on about, even though the 'average punter' is more likely to be able to afford the Mustang. It's just more Ford spin. Like FoA saying they used BMW for their benchmarks on Falcon and Territory. But we just smile and nod.

Last thing I'm saying on this. Back to topic.

Pepscobra · 16-03-2012, 08:57 PM

This was just posted over in the Ranger section... kinda makes you wonder... could it be true??
We all know Falcon is a great product and scratch our heads trying to figure out whats going on. Is it really being killed from within???

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Originally Posted by Cheese3

Well I got some delivery date news.

My dad ordered one in November, was told Feb, then march/April, and he just received an email now saying may/June. This is utter bullsh!t, I work for this wretched company in Geelong and other employee's cant even get a gas falcon, 6 week wait and no build date still on the gas falcon.
The sooner they shut the doors the better. Sick of this rubbish, they are doing this on purpose so it looks like we are struggling for sales so it gives them a reason to pull the pin on operations in Australia.

Joe5619 · 16-03-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepscobra

This was just posted over in the Ranger section... kinda makes you wonder... could it be true??
We all know Falcon is a great product and scratch our heads trying to figure out whats going on. Is it really being killed from within???

What does the delivery time of Ranger have to do with Falcon??

Pepscobra · 16-03-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

What does the delivery time of Ranger have to do with Falcon??

Did you even read the post properly?
It refers to Falcon also.
Generally the post reflects an attitude of Ford in general.

jpd80 · 16-03-2012, 09:18 PM

Company I work for has ordered two Hilux Utes before Christmas, were told delivery in April, now late June.

Nic85 · 16-03-2012, 09:40 PM

The ute wait times are due to the Thailand fiasco.

Joe5619 · 16-03-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepscobra

Did you even read the post properly?
It refers to Falcon also.
Generally the post reflects an attitude of Ford in general.

Yes.. And a 6 week wait it normal & nothing wrong with that time at all.. People just expect the wolrd to stop & build there car straight away?

Ranger lead time is a bit long in the tooth however!!

jpd80 · 16-03-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nic85

The ute wait times are due to the Thailand fiasco.

The Falcon Ute fiasco in February was due to lack of tail shafts from supplier..

4.0i OHC · 17-03-2012, 12:35 AM

Something some of you guys may find interesting:
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4.0i OHC · 17-03-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

If the Flagship GT500 was sold at around the same price as a GTE for example I know what I'd choose and its only got 2 doors

I know which fast Ford I'd choose in that price range, and it's only got 2 doors. I'd go for an F6 ute, manual, no options.

jpd80 · 17-03-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 4.0i OHC

I know which fast Ford I'd choose in that price range, and it's only got 2 doors. I'd go for an F6 ute, manual, no options.

Had you done that last year, you would be one of fifty one actual buyers.

**DJM83** · 17-03-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 4.0i OHC

I know which fast Ford I'd choose in that price range, and it's only got 2 doors. I'd go for an F6 ute, manual, no options.

i forgot about the F6, for those playing at home i was referring to the GT500.

jpd80 · 17-03-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

i forgot about the F6, for those playing at home i was referring to the GT500.

GT500 does not have full traction control, just rudimentary launch control, that's the real problem with cornering.
I spoke to a work colleague who owns an FPV GT and told me he attended a recent track day where owners
did driving with traction control on and off, it was impossible to go through the prescribed corner without the
tail flicking out when traction control was switched off so I can see why the GT500 would be a handful to drive.

**DJM83** · 17-03-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

GT500 does not have full traction control, just rudimentary launch control, that's the real problem with cornering.
I spoke to a work colleague who owns an FPV GT and told me he attended a recent track day where owners
did driving with traction control on and off, it was impossible to go through the prescribed corner without the
tail flicking out when traction control was switched off so I can see why the GT500 would be a handful to drive

You just outlined the main reasons why id prefer one.

jpd80 · 17-03-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

You just outlined the main reasons why id prefer one.

yeah, pretty sure the people who actually buy the GT500 want it to be a bit taily to add to the experience.

Non-buyers (as in critics) opinions on handling/performance carry absolutely no weight with Ford and that's the way it should be.