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Old 22-03-2018, 08:10 AM   #1
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Default Buying: MC Mondeo Ecoboost Auto, any known problems?

Hey guys, I'm looking at a MC Mondeo Ecoboost Auto today and was wondering if there is any inherent problems with the gearbox?

I'm a previous owner of a Focus auto and within 30,000 kays had 2 clutches fitted and many visits to the dealership. So I'm concerned about the Ford DCT auto.

I know that the gearbox is a wet clutch type and the problematic Focus was a dry clutch. So I'm hoping it would be reliable.

The car I'm looking at has 66,000 kays so it's relatively low mileage.

Any advice on the gearbox or any other issues that the car may have would be appreciated.
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Old 22-03-2018, 02:51 PM   #2
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Default Re: Buying: MC Mondeo Ecoboost Auto, any known problems?

Reliability and service information is privy to Ford,
actual data is not publicly available, poor buggers, they must be struggling.

My experience is positive,
The bad reputation of powershift works in favour of 2nd hand buyers,
since the wet clutch gearboxes are pretty good, I believe.
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Old 22-03-2018, 04:57 PM   #3
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Default Re: Buying: MC Mondeo Ecoboost Auto, any known problems?

We only have anecdotal evidence to work with.

The earliest Powershift-equipped MB-MC Mondeos (2010-2011 build) seem to have a defect where an input shaft speed sensor can go bad. It causes the computer to become confused and produce an irregular balking or hesitation in low-speed acceleration (like it spontaneously selects neutral), then often a jolt when it picks back up, and sometimes rough shifts. If you have an OBDII scanner you might see a P0715 "sensor value out of range or implausible" trouble code being recorded in the TCM. Repair can cost from $2,000 to $3,000 and requires complete removal and disassembly of the transmission to replace the part.

It seems to be a not-so-uncommon problem, but as said we only have anecdotes. We've seen several posters on these forums reporting this trouble, including users bundybear, manchu and myself going through it throughout 2015 & 16.

Reportedly there was a manufacturing changeover around 2012 where Ford started using a redesigned sensor that doesn't go bad. I don't think we've seen anyone report it in 2012-on built vehicles, or had a recurrence in a fixed one.

Other than we haven't really heard of too many problems. The transmission fluid is super important and needs to be changed on schedule, if it's not done correctly that will affect gear shifts and drivability, and possibly cause damage. We have one user (ac17) who is currently posting about low-speed shudder and exploring the possibility of clutch failure, but that seems to be an isolated case.

They seem to be a pretty strong transmission generally speaking, but expensive to repair if they go wrong. This link I found earlier today that gives a summary reference might be relevant here:
https://axleaddict.com/cars/Powershi...mission-Faults

If you have concerns going into a purchase, get it checked out and get some kind of mechanical warranty to cover you for the first few months while you get familiar (if you don't have the statutory warranty from buying from a dealer).
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Old 22-03-2018, 06:03 PM   #4
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Default Re: Buying: MC Mondeo Ecoboost Auto, any known problems?

From memory Ford revised the gearbox oil change interval to 60,000km or thereabouts. In which case make sure that has been done or use it as a bargaining tool.

We had an EcoBoost Titanium and had no problems with it. The main thing, as I'm sure you are aware having had a Focus, is that they need to be driven slightly different to regular auto's and CVT's. They don't respond well to heavy, sudden throttle applications from stand still and generally resent on-off-on type throttle usually associated with stop start city driving.
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Old 22-03-2018, 06:58 PM   #5
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From memory Ford revised the gearbox oil change interval to 60,000km or thereabouts. In which case make sure that has been done or use it as a bargaining tool.

We had an EcoBoost Titanium and had no problems with it. The main thing, as I'm sure you are aware having had a Focus, is that they need to be driven slightly different to regular auto's and CVT's. They don't respond well to heavy, sudden throttle applications from stand still and generally resent on-off-on type throttle usually associated with stop start city driving.
Can only with everything said earlier. No trouble with ours after 4 years and lots of stop start city driving. As long as you drive it according to the advice above it is fine.
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Can only with everything said earlier. No trouble with ours after 4 years and lots of stop start city driving. As long as you drive it according to the advice above it is fine.
Ditto with my MC.

Laughed today when running late for an appointment and found myself in the left hand lane at the front at a set of lights. Noticed I did not have far to travel after the lights before needing to change lanes.

So when the lights changed I took off a bit harder than necessary to beat the car next to me when I heard the squeal of wheel spin. Thought what a hoon it was next to me at the lights. Oops the hoon was me I realised as I changed lanes a mile in front of the other car.

Not the nicest driving I know but pleased that my old Mondy (240klms+) still had it in her to respond.
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Old 24-03-2018, 09:14 AM   #7
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Make sure it had the correct servicing at 60000kms.
The powershift needs a big service at 60000kms.
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