EOI: Cam install on my car

DEVL-XR · 30-06-2007, 01:05 PM

Hi all,
As we all know its end of financial year so I'll be getting some tax money back in the next few weeks

: ! With this money I'm planning on buying a Wade 1673 cam.
This will be a perfect opportunity to learn more about the head of the engine but I dont want to tackle it by myself as I know I'll bugger up the timing!
So I'm seeing if theres any fellow members who would be interested in helping me install the cam? I've thought of 2 options here:

1. A couple members could come down to Bendigo to my house and i'll throw a BBQ lunch and soft drinks and we can get the cam installed. or...

2. I could drive to your house and get the cam installed there.

I'll organize a day in the upcoming weeks witch suits people. I still need to get the tax money back plus I need to actually buy the cam yet!
If anyones interested that would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Braden

Christiaan · 30-06-2007, 01:59 PM

2 cable ties (1 will work too) around the main cam sprocket and i guarantee your timing will be fine ;)

I will come and help though.. As long as it's on a Saturday and not on a Sunday..

DEVL-XR · 30-06-2007, 02:05 PM

Yeah I heard about the cable ties, still, it'll be good to have someone there who knows what there doing!
A Saturday will most likely be the day I'll be doing it. As said we can arrange a proper date once I have the cam lying in my shed!

On a side note what exactly is a vernier cam gear and the difference between using this or just using new shims? Do you need new shims with a vernier cam gear and roughly how much does it cost?

Christiaan · 30-06-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BradensEBxr6

Yeah I heard about the cable ties, still, it'll be good to have someone there who knows what there doing!
A Saturday will most likely be the day I'll be doing it. As said we can arrange a proper date once I have the cam lying in my shed!

On a side note what exactly is a vernier cam gear and the difference between using this or just using new shims? Do you need new shims with a vernier cam gear and roughly how much does it cost?

a vernier gear replaces the stock cam sprocket and allows you to advance of retard the timing of the new cam, which in turn, allows you to play with the powerband of the cam. If you want the cam to produce power low in the rev range, you can set it a little retarded, or high in the rev range, advance it.

You will still need shims regardless of whether or not you use a vernier gear..

I think a vernier gear is like $150 or so, and you dont need new shims, just second hand shims will do..

DEVL-XR · 30-06-2007, 02:38 PM

Ah cool thanks for that. I'll see how lucky I am with tax back money to decide if I get a vernier gear or not.
As for the shims, whats the point of second hand shims? My car would already have shims in it right, so wouldn't they be classed as second hand ones anyway? I dont think new ones are that dear anyway so i'd proberly just go with new shims.

Sorry bout all the questions, its the only way I can learn mechanic stuff as my dad knows nothing at all about motors.

gthofan · 30-06-2007, 02:47 PM

ill come up and give you a hand braden, I can get it ground, and bring it up with me, to save on courior charges

I believe shims are about $3.50 each from ford, Or from pick a part for bout $2.00 for 12.

cheers
scott

gthofan · 30-06-2007, 02:50 PM

on the topic of shims, you need to add one more into the rocker arm, under the lifter. That is to make up for the material that we grind off the cam.

DEVL-XR · 30-06-2007, 02:50 PM

Yeah that would be awesome Scott. I'll PM you once I receive my tax money. Cheers.

gthofan · 30-06-2007, 02:53 PM

no worries. If ea-ed shims are the same, ill get some shims aswell. There are heaps of wrecks at pick a part.

Christiaan · 30-06-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gthofan

no worries. If ea-ed shims are the same, ill get some shims aswell. There are heaps of wrecks at pick a part.

EA-EB shims are big ones, while some EBII'S and ED's got the smaller type shims.

All EF/EL are small type shims.

snypereb · 30-06-2007, 03:43 PM

30 blokes to change a cam lol.

Mickus · 30-06-2007, 07:00 PM

Ill be there for moral support :P

DEVL-XR · 30-06-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by snypereb

30 blokes to change a cam lol.

Take the 0 of the 30 and you have 3, gotta learn these things somehow man. Anyway doesn't Wayne do all your work on your car!!!!

[T1PTOP] · 30-06-2007, 08:25 PM

even 3 ppl to change a cam is like WTF:P

get shims from a self serve wrecker, that way u dont pay for them at all

Sundeep · 30-06-2007, 08:29 PM

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Take the 0 of the 30 and you have 3, gotta learn these things somehow man.

Buy a book from Ford and the 3 becomes 1.

Sundeep

DEVL-XR · 30-06-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dose

Buy a book from Ford and the 3 becomes 1.

Sundeep

Actually I've been meaning to buy one of those books for quite a while now, just never actually got around to buying one.

I only really need 1 person to give me a hand and show me the ropes.

snypereb · 03-07-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BradensEBxr6

Anyway doesn't Wayne do all your work on your car!!!!

Haha funny funny he aint touched my car in ages!! Im so coming to help and dropping a lifter into the oil gallery!!!

gthofan · 03-07-2007, 12:38 AM

then we can time shaun how long to dismantle an engine, then re-build :togo:

It will all be fine braden, just give me the word when you want the ball to get rolling

CaRtZ · 03-07-2007, 12:44 AM

is there a date set for this? depending on when might i crash this party and have my 1636 install supervised?

-jjM- · 03-07-2007, 03:40 PM

just to make sure, have you read this thread yet? LINK HERE

DEVL-XR · 03-07-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by snypereb

Haha funny funny he aint touched my car in ages!! Im so coming to help and dropping a lifter into the oil gallery!!!

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Originally Posted by gthofan

then we can time shaun how long to dismantle an engine, then re-build :togo:

It will all be fine braden, just give me the word when you want the ball to get rolling

Will do Scott, just waiting for work to give me the tax form (I forget the proper name for it right now).

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Originally Posted by CaRtZ

is there a date set for this? depending on when might i crash this party and have my 1636 install supervised?

No set date just yet. Will let you know.

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Originally Posted by -jjM-

just to make sure, have you read this thread yet? LINK HERE

I've read a few tutorials and I pretty much know how to do the whole install, I just want some supervision so I dont screw anything up.