Cyclist nailed by Police - Page 2

jpblue1000 · 15-01-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kable72

So you wait or you get off your bike and take the pedestrian crossing.

By this reckoning if the lights don't change for a car, we have all been there the driver is to turn around and find another route? No the driver or drivers use caution to drive through the recalcitrant lights like they would at a non controlled intersection.

As individuals I am sure most AFF members would like to see fairness of the law practiced by all, however whenever the fairness is not demonstrated by a cyclist their world caves in. What is it about cyclists that is so enraging. Like drivers the vast majority are law abiding citizens going about their daily lives.
JP

Kable72 · 15-01-2016, 10:29 AM

A bike rider has the ability to walk on the sidewalk, a car does not. Being a cyclist doesn't give you the right to run red lights when you want.

MrEL · 15-01-2016, 11:00 AM

How about the people who want to put so much effort into attacking those that hate cyclists look after their own sport and put that energy into reeducating the muckhole cyclists that give us the reasons to hate them into changing their behaviour on the roads...........

CoupeKing · 15-01-2016, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

What is it about cyclists that is so enraging.
JP

I guess some drivers find them annoying or consider them as pests, plus heaps of them don't follow the rules and expect car drivers to be patient in return. They're just fast pedestrians with a helmet after all.

My pattern recognition kicks-in when i see a cyclist or know one is around me, kind of like when I see a spider.

I give them plenty of room and time like a do to a learner-driver. If I'm driving and a car hits me at 40 clicks - unless I'm checking the oil at the time or carrying an earn full of hot soup, chances are everything will be ok. Go over the top of a bike at that speed.....

G6E Turbo 2 · 15-01-2016, 11:20 AM

To me Push bikes are a pain in the backside in traffic
They believe they have all the rights of a Car/ vehicle but take non of the responsibility
They very often do not follow the basic road rules
They do not have any ID , Number plates , when they run into you and ride off
They don't pay rego or insurance

Sadly in a City, like Sydney, the roads are just not wide enough to fit bikes and vehicles together, in many instances.
So we have feel good idiots like the Sydney Mayor who lobbies to remove vehicle lanes on roads for push bikes, and they pay nothing for the privilege, which makes traffic worse.
Strangely enough Motorists pay for roads, pushbikes do not

I am not in anyway against people riding push bikes, they just

ratter · 15-01-2016, 11:27 AM

I'm so glad no motorist ever breaks the road rules

**Beastie** · 15-01-2016, 11:32 AM

I can see the headlines now....

Police pursuit of cyclist called off due to excessive speeds, running red lights and dangerous riding....

blueoval · 15-01-2016, 11:35 AM

Please read this article regarding cyclists and rego:
http://www.executivestyle.com.au/18-...ad-idea-1m23gh

Kable72 · 15-01-2016, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ratter

I'm so glad no motorist ever breaks the road rules

When we break road rules there are consequences.

csv8 · 15-01-2016, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Please read this article regarding cyclists and rego:
http://www.executivestyle.com.au/18-...ad-idea-1m23gh

http://cyclingtips.com/2010/05/why-c...-pay-for-rego/

ratter · 15-01-2016, 12:07 PM

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When we break road rules there are consequences.

and there is for cyclist

olfella · 15-01-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LG17

Love the way that everyone seems to blame the cyclist and praise the motorcyclist cop when no-one knows the facts yet. Yes there are some witness statements which seem to differ on some points. No doubt a full and thorough investigation will sort it out.

It's automatic "I hate anyone riding a bike syndrome" that takes over.

Closed minds...

The fact is he went through a red light and he did not have a helmet. It is your closed mind that seems to think he got pulled over for no reason. AND he has some fines to show for his error,

ratter · 15-01-2016, 12:22 PM

The roads are there for all to share, no user has more rights than another, they are to be shared

blueoval · 15-01-2016, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

http://cyclingtips.com/2010/05/why-c...-pay-for-rego/

haha, fine for those who arent insured. But I am fully insured comprehensively. Im all for paying rego. Ive said this in numerous threads (which all eventually get locked) on here about it. But IF/when I do pay for it, I expect the whinging to stop about it and I expect the same amount of respect on the roads because of it.

vztrt · 15-01-2016, 12:24 PM

Same as your posts on here.

**EASYBOSS** · 15-01-2016, 12:28 PM

In before the lock

**Beastie** · 15-01-2016, 12:36 PM

Be careful what you wish for re cyclists paying rego and having the same rights as cars (not that it will happen). They will go from riding on the left (usually) to riding in the middle of the lane, as they will have the 'same rights' as cars.

I accept that they have the right to ride on the road, but what gets my goat are the riders who ride next to each other and take up half the lane.

As for the guy pushed over by the policeman, it would appear that he was doing the wrong thing and wasn't wearing a helmet etc...but I wonder how he was pushed over?

Was he moving and the police pushed him over while riding his m/bike?
Was he stationary and the police got off his m/bike and pushed him over?
Maybe he was deaf and didn't hear the siren or verbal instructions?

Seems a bit strange....

mik · 15-01-2016, 12:55 PM

Evil cyclist ....cop that !
in all seriousness , no one knows the nitty gritty of what really happened , wait and see how the facts turn out.

**FairmontGS** · 15-01-2016, 01:03 PM

Haha - you're just the sort of person l love to kick in the back door as I cycle past.

crainger · 15-01-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

What is it about cyclists that is so enraging. Like drivers the vast majority are law abiding citizens going about their daily lives.
JP

True, but it's the ones that give the rest a bad name that you remember. Just like us car enthusiasts all get branded hoons.

I live around the corner from a cycling themed cafe. We get them all in the morning. Usually it's not an issue unless the protesters are there. The ones that hate cars, their pollution and the fact they often need to overtake them. So what they do is deliberately stop, fix their shoes, gloves and helmets in the road and slowly ride 2-3 abreast. It's a one lane road with nature strip so no overtaking. God help you if you are in a sports, muscle or exotic car.

Now every time I see a hive mind of cyclists I get on edge and have to calm myself and just be patient. Trouble is the guy behind me might be the one to do something silly and ruin everyone's day. :(

**MercurySilver** · 15-01-2016, 01:20 PM

Watched a cyclist refuse to use the bike lane, didnt stop at the stop sign and didnt indicate to turn left about a week ago
Shook my head at him when i pulled over at the deli
Was told to go **** myself pretty much, this coming from a bloke in his 50s

These are the people that give decent riders a bad rep and why motorists dont like most cyclists.

In before lock

Craig@AUDI · 15-01-2016, 01:46 PM

I thought cop cars/bikes had video nowadays to prevent the he said she said nonsense?

Always 3 sides to a story...2 opinions and the truth.

FPV0137 · 15-01-2016, 02:19 PM

As a courier, I spend too much time on Perth roads.
I constantly see cyclist running red lights, speeding through school zones and riding in the left tyre of the lane as if they were on a motorbike, usually without wearing a helmet.
It doesn't take much to follow some basic road rules, especially the school zone thing(80-110kg of person moving at 40kph is more than enough to seriously hurt a child).
Cyclist are always fighting for their right to use the road then we have to put up with that crap.
Keep left, think about what you're doing and stop wearing Lycra!
Otherwise by all means, exercise away!

FPV0137 · 15-01-2016, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Haha - you're just the sort of person l love to kick in the back door as I cycle past.

And you call yourself a car enthusiast?

blueoval · 15-01-2016, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Razorwire

As a courier, I spend too much time on Perth roads.
I constantly see cyclist running red lights, speeding through school zones and riding in the left tyre of the lane as if they were on a motorbike, usually without wearing a helmet.
It doesn't take much to follow some basic road rules, especially the school zone thing(80-110kg of person moving at 40kph is more than enough to seriously hurt a child).
Cyclist are always fighting for their right to use the road then we have to put up with that crap.
Keep left, think about what you're doing and stop wearing Lycra!
Otherwise by all means, exercise away!

I agree with most of what you're saying but picking on us because of our clothes is getting silly. You dont have to like it, but you do need to get over it.

**FairmontGS** · 15-01-2016, 02:53 PM

I'm an anti-idiot enthusiast. There's room for everyone on the road.

ratter · 15-01-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Razorwire

As a courier, I spend too much time on Perth roads.
I constantly see cyclist running red lights, speeding through school zones and riding in the left tyre of the lane as if they were on a motorbike, usually without wearing a helmet.
It doesn't take much to follow some basic road rules, especially the school zone thing(80-110kg of person moving at 40kph is more than enough to seriously hurt a child).
Cyclist are always fighting for their right to use the road then we have to put up with that crap.
Keep left, think about what you're doing and stop wearing Lycra!
Otherwise by all means, exercise away!

and many couriers I see on a daily basis, think they are more important than other people, they double park blocking traffic, they often don't wear seatbelts, they run over nature strips to avoid traffic etc

please consider that other motorists maybe carrying out their work duties and don't hold them up and please have a shower.

I guess we can all form opinions based on what we see on a regular basis, does not mean it is right or even the majority, just your experience

LG17 · 15-01-2016, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by olfella

The fact is he went through a red light and he did not have a helmet. It is your closed mind that seems to think he got pulled over for no reason. AND he has some fines to show for his error,

My mind is not closed.
It is undisputed that he wasn't wearing a helmet (and for that he's a ********) but the red light scenario seems to have different stories surrounding it. For that reason (I did state that I'd wait for a proper investigation) my mind is totally open until the investigation is complete.

FPV0137 · 15-01-2016, 03:08 PM

I cant argue that ratter, as I see the exact same thing lol though your middle paragraph can go for both motorists and cyclists
I thought cyclists wore Lycra because it was aerodynamic and light or something like that, but when it comes to training, wouldn't you be better off wearing something heavy that makes you work and better yourself?
I'm not an exercise nut so I genuinely wouldn't know, but I do know a fully frown man in Lycra doesn't look very attractive bent forward showing all the motorists what he had for breakfast...
I've found a little bit of courtesy and respect goes a long way outside of the city. Kicking in peoples doors and panels just fills me with rage, even if its not my car. Try kicking the driver next time. They'll learn a little quicker :P

blueoval · 15-01-2016, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Razorwire

I cant argue that ratter, as I see the exact same thing lol though your middle paragraph can go for both motorists and cyclists
I thought cyclists wore Lycra because it was aerodynamic and light or something like that, but when it comes to training, wouldn't you be better off wearing something heavy that makes you work and better yourself?
I'm not an exercise nut so I genuinely wouldn't know, but I do know a fully frown man in Lycra doesn't look very attractive bent forward showing all the motorists what he had for breakfast...
I've found a little bit of courtesy and respect goes a long way outside of the city. Kicking in peoples doors and panels just fills me with rage, even if its not my car. Try kicking the driver next time. They'll learn a little quicker :P

Aerodynamics plays a small part but its more to do with comfort in the saddle than some form of fashion show. Most of us dont wear it because we feel we look good in it, we do it because the outfits are designed to wick away moisture, stop chaffing and offer better overall comfort when riding for long periods of time.

I agree there are some more rounder fellows out there that don't necessarily look good in lycra but at least they are doing better than the beer swilling bloke sitting on his couch in nothing but his footy short shorts and sauce stained wife beater singlet.

Of course that's what I think. No offense to beer swilling, footy short and singlet wearing lads who read this.

Anyway how hard is it NOT to look at a guys jiblets when over taking him? All it takes is a bit of self control.