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12-06-2011, 04:45 PM | #1 | ||
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Sorry for infesting your lovely forum lately, but i have another query. I did a search and found pics of someone eles shock mounts but mine look different. It's an AU2 Ghia with 248k on it. Getting a metalic 'clanging' noise especially on low to moderate speed turning, inparticularly u-turns. Also a horrendous 'BANG' thud vibrating the whole boot on harsh bumps, and the back end will kick a tiny bit on constant highway speed throttle over undulations. Trying to work out if these shock mounts are causing the clanging/harsh banging suspension characteristics.. The rear left is rather high, and on an angle. The noise 'seems' to be coming from the RL. Apologies for the angle of the RR photo, carpet was glued lol. This may imply that the RR has been done and the RL hasn't. Thoughts?
REAR LEFT: - - REAR RIGHT: (couldn't get the RR carpet off, looks to be GLUED??) |
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12-06-2011, 06:24 PM | #2 | ||
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just went out and looked at the xr , Brrrrr cold..... my rubber bush/s looks to be a similar shape to yours allthough i`m not getting any banging, evil thought leave the offending split rear seat down from the noisey side and cover loose and get the missus to take you for a spin over some humps or something so you can watch/listen fondle the top shock mount .
ps my s2 carpet on the towers was`nt glued just had the pushin mushroom clips. |
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12-06-2011, 08:01 PM | #3 | ||
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thanks Mik, good suggestion.
Outcome: my lord. It is the RL one, it's banging like a .... ok won't say that one, it's doing it badly. I'm editing a poxy video i took with a still camera, will post a link a bit later. Unsure if it's being caused by the mount or something else underneath which i haven't been able to see. |
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12-06-2011, 08:02 PM | #4 | ||
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They all look original. After 248k I would suggest they would be shagged. The symptoms you described also sound like they are worn.
I changed mine recently. Massive difference. |
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12-06-2011, 08:05 PM | #5 | ||
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is it best to do both? depends what it costs. What did yours cost including labour b-juggles? or did you do them yourself?
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12-06-2011, 08:27 PM | #6 | ||
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They are about 90 trade per side, about a two hour job. Peel off the rubber to see if they are stuffed or not. Failing that you can try putting in a steel washer under the top nut and seeing how you go.
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12-06-2011, 08:35 PM | #7 | ||
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12-06-2011, 11:26 PM | #8 | ||
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your welcome Proffessor , wow it is making a racket you`ll be glad to get that fixed.
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12-06-2011, 11:51 PM | #9 | ||
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The rear shock mounts are still available and were a problem on AU's
R/H AU2 5T120 B and L/H AU2 5T121 B both cost $117.50 each. |
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13-06-2011, 12:53 AM | #10 | ||
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cheers papa smurf. What do we do when Ford run out of spares? haha
Was it just the IRS models affected or live axle AU's too? |
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13-06-2011, 10:31 AM | #11 | ||
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NO, mainly the IRS. We used to sell HEAPS of them. They were a problem from when they were new and quite a few were replaced under warranty.
I would say that Ford has a few of these. |
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13-06-2011, 06:04 PM | #12 | ||
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Definately soulds like rear upper mounts - check the Au rear irs strut tops for details.
Also check up (How to) AU - IRS Shock Absorber Upper Mount Replacement for a well documented how to. Cheers |
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14-06-2011, 01:10 PM | #13 | ||
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mechanic claims they're no longer available ???
"we've never done one before" Just rang Bayford, 'yep, in stock'. dear god. what have i done. Last edited by Professor Farnsworth; 14-06-2011 at 01:16 PM. |
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14-06-2011, 01:21 PM | #14 | ||||
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Does the Ghia have an LSD by any chance?
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14-06-2011, 01:22 PM | #15 | |||
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Easy fix for that though with a diff oil change. Penrite Limslip 85w-140 diff oil (from memory those are the specs) and Penrite LSD additive (basically the same as the Ford additive but $15 not $105) will sort that out for you.
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15-06-2011, 10:36 AM | #18 | ||
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Tell the mechanic to put a thick spacer washer under the top nut or you'll still have a rattling noise. This is because the body of the new mount is not as thick as the originals and the nut on top runs out of thread before its tight
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15-06-2011, 02:55 PM | #19 | ||
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hang on, so the genuine replacement part is not the same as the genuine factory part??
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15-06-2011, 03:19 PM | #20 | |||
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As stated, the height of the body that the shock shaft goes thru is less than the originals. Of course, if yours have been changed already they will be the same as the newies. But I notice in the pic there is no spacer washer under the nut so I would say that's an original In a T3, these have been known to fail in less than 80,000 klms. have seen cars driving along the freeway with the rear wheel bouncing so much its actually lifting off the road. Funny thing is you don't feel it in the car
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15-06-2011, 03:39 PM | #21 | |||
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15-06-2011, 07:38 PM | #22 | ||
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I have a real quiet rattle from the rear of mine.
I might try some washers under the nuts. Can I just undo the nut, install a washer and then return the nut? I'm hoping I can with it all in the car, with the weight of the car compressing it all? Otherwise it can wait, don't feel like pulling them out... |
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15-06-2011, 07:51 PM | #23 | ||
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All fixed, rear is all but silent now. Still gotta tackle the fronts. Pretty sure it's a rack issue. Thanks for all the help, especially Papa Smurf for the part number.
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Knocky noise's at the front ? could be ball joint ? or knowing my ball joints are fine I am replacing the rack ends next week for I feel/hear knocky noise's whilst parking turning full lock etc so thats my take on the situation hopefully I'm right and know end of next week.
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16-06-2011, 11:14 AM | #26 | |||
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It usually takes a very torquey rattle gun to get those nuts off as the shaft wants to spin. Good luck trying to hold the shaft with a shifter while you try to loosen the nut - not much room to work there - but yes you could do it on car
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16-06-2011, 04:26 PM | #27 | |||
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16-06-2011, 04:50 PM | #28 | |||
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I was more asking though if the cars weight will be sufficient to hold the springs compressed though? I don't want to undo the nut and the spring opens up and it all comes apart.... |
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19-06-2011, 05:18 PM | #29 | ||
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Just on the rear upper mounts. After changing my shocks and springs, I needed to add a few washers underneath the top nut, due to similar knocking noise. Though I never replaced the upper shock mounts, as they still looked like new. Hmmm......
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12-09-2011, 10:53 PM | #30 | ||
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What size washers do I need to fit? I'm very sick of the rattle now. The mounts are perfect.
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