mondeo XR5 is dead!

[partsguy]

Ford have announced that mondeo XR5 is no longer being imported.

Not sure what effect not have a 'hero' car in the line up will have :

[Smoke Pursuit]

XR5 Turbo dead

Territory Ghia Turbo dead

whats going on ford... :S

[LeadFoot81]

The XR5 is a de-specced manual Titanium Turbo, I wonder if theyll just offer the turbo option on that instead of a seperate model?

[partsguy]

Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

The XR5 is a de-specced manual Titanium Turbo, I wonder if theyll just offer the turbo option on that instead of a seperate model?

In short, No.

The engine is being discontinued in Mondeo for Australia.

[partsguy]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

XR5 Turbo dead

Territory Ghia Turbo dead

whats going on ford... :S

I hadnt read that one anywhere, but they hadnt got it to EUROIV like the N/A version yet....which did make me wonder

[Polyal]

I thought the 5T was going to be discontinued, perhaps getting in early?

Shame its a nice car.

[R-Design]

Maybe something to do with the Volvo sale. Thought it was one of their engines.

[LeadFoot81]

The Tezz turbo is being dropped as the diesel engine will be more powerful.

A shame about no turbo option on Mondeo but already Im seeing more Titatiums on the road as opposed to the rebadged despecced Titanium/XR5. I think Ford have figured out what wil sell better. Volvo being sold off means Ford will run their own ecoboost turbo engines in the STs I dont know if that factors into this right now as well.

[warren77]

Can't find any formal notification of this...anyone got a link?

edit: typo

[partsguy]

Originally Posted by warren77

Can't find any formal notification of this...anyone got a link?

edit: typo

None that I can publish... if you know what I mean.

My initial post should have read 'Ford have announced to dealers.....'

[outback_ute]

That's strange, its not as if the 2.5T engine won't meet Euro4 emissions!

[Swordsman88]

Has anyone confirmed that engine will live on in the next mondeo update (in europe?). Not so much the volvo sale but we know the 2.0T will come out in the focus ST (XR5T) so either it will also come out in the mondeo titanium or ford will drop the turbo titanium too??? Either was hardly a big seller esp with the new titanium models and i think the only reason it came here in the first place was to offer an 'up market' more powerful model. With the 2.3 being replaced by the a detuned 2.0T (probably) as the standard aus spec 4pot engine it will have more than enough grunt (think 280-300nm) so ford would not be interested in bringing in a manual only 2.5 5pot. I think the XR5T commonality was one of the reasons it got here at all....it hardly suits the XR brand anyway....

For the record, i think its a great car just making the market position argument....

[paulie0735]

Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

The Tezz turbo is being dropped as the diesel engine will be more powerful......

LOL, not if they fit the 2.7 it won't, which seems to be the most likely engine at the moment, sorry but 'maybe' 130kw and 'maybe' 400nm won't match the 245/480 currently on offer in the TTG. Don't get me wrong nobody is a bigger fan of modern diesels than I am but the LR castoff 2.7 won't be much of a performance option in the terry, certainly won't compete with the current T6.

Now if they were to fit the 3.0 or even (as if) the 4.0TTV8 than were talkin..... giddy up!!

[paulie0735]

Originally Posted by outback_ute

That's strange, its not as if the 2.5T engine won't meet Euro4 emissions!

..... at the end of the day Ford Aus will do what Ford Aus always does....... "what ever the %$#@ they want" regardless of their customers wants or needs.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

The Tezz turbo is being dropped as the diesel engine will be more powerful.

A shame about no turbo option on Mondeo but already Im seeing more Titatiums on the road as opposed to the rebadged despecced Titanium/XR5. I think Ford have figured out what wil sell better. Volvo being sold off means Ford will run their own ecoboost turbo engines in the STs I dont know if that factors into this right now as well.

Pfft the Turbo Diesel wont be as quick as the standard petrol let alone the T6...

Its a sad day in Ford land, just after we got acustom to these exciting cars and a bit of variety its all over. Thats what happens when people hate a particular brand, im sick of trying to defend Ford to people, its just hard work.

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

Pfft the Turbo Diesel wont be as quick as the standard petrol let alone the T6...

Its a sad day in Ford land, just after we got acustom to these exciting cars and a bit of variety its all over. Thats what happens when people hate a particular brand, im sick of trying to defend Ford to people, its just hard work.

It is hard work!!! But, i think the general perception is changing largely as ford engineer better all round models...not because of 'niche' cars. Territory Turbo never sold in very high numbers and niether did XR5T mondeo. Ford can use the money saves (and this is a example not what will really happen literally) to invest in better quality LCD screens with better user interfaces for its next gen focus/falcon etc. and that will sell more cars. It really will. The enthusiast is being shut out guys just face it. Thankfully the 'base' engines are more competitive than ever so it could be worse. You could be a holden fan about now...oh i'm so excited about my brand's future, what with the great SIDI V6s and our very competitive V8s versus Ford's rubbish Coyote V8.....oh wait...that's not right (extreme sarcasm intended)....

[outback_ute]

Whether the 2.5T is going to be replaced by a 4cyl EB engine in the future won't stop it still being (presumably) produced for the Euro market until then. Paullie you are right, Ford Aus seems to be so risk-averse it is a wonder that they let their employees drive to work on public roads...

[XR5-Boy]

Guys, heard direct from Ford today (and i've known for a while as well, couldn't say anything) but yes, the model is being stopped globally infact. 2.5T engine is old and is being phased out.

[warren77]

Wonder what that is going to do to resale value of XR5s?

[allanv6gt]

As far as I can gelan.....
XR5 is a Volvo Motor
Ford has now sold Volvo
Ford has their own new0design high efficiency twin turbo EcoBoost

Enthusiasts just need to hope we get a Mondeo Ecoboost High-output version....in a full manual of course (see by-line).

No surprises here, just more sighs and unsatisfied desires. No wonder HSV does so well.

[LRsedan]

Yep its gone.

the 5 potter is being replaced with fords new 4 cylinder eco friendly turbo engine in 2011 apparently.

[vztrt]

Can they now bring in a NA manual Zetec model....?

[Smoke Pursuit]

So this means no more XR5 T focus either??

[suttoo]

It would be nice if Ford told there dealers

[partsguy]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

So this means no more XR5 T focus either??

Focus XR5 (which is selling very well) will continue unchanged at this point.

[NZ XR6]

I read on the UK Mondeo forum that the 2.5T is no longer available after Jan. 2010. I suspect that it isn't a big seller in Europe and they're getting ready for the 2.0 Ecoboost which should go in the Mondeo this year.

The Mondeo XR5 disappeared from Ford NZ price lists some time ago. The only place I've seen one here was at a Ford dealer.

[Bucknaked]

Originally Posted by partsguy

Focus XR5 (which is selling very well) will continue unchanged at this point.

But if the 2.5 T motor is being phased out, where are they getting the engines from to continue Focus XR5 production?

[NZ XR6]

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

But if the 2.5 T motor is being phased out, where are they getting the engines from to continue Focus XR5 production?

Volvo. I don't think that the engine is being phased out, just it's use in the Mondeo.

[Bucknaked]

From what I read on the XR5 forums, then engine is no longer going to be used by ford, which means no more XR5 in either Mondeo or Focus. Volvo is stopping production of the 2.5 alltogether. So even volvo won't get the 2.5

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

From what I read on the XR5 forums, then engine is no longer going to be used by ford, which means no more XR5 in either Mondeo or Focus. Volvo is stopping production of the 2.5 alltogether. So even volvo won't get the 2.5

prob because volvo has just launched its own 2.0 DI turbo 4 pot. This is supposedly the volvo version of the ford ecoboost. Volvo says there are differences but i'd be shocked if they werent related. Ford will still have association with volvo for years to come re supply and some design sharing even though they are selling them. Its like astonmartin/lr/jag they all use ford stuff still and ford has a supply deal with them. Its just a reversal of the situation witih ford supplying parts for volvo now and volvo stoping production of its own 2.5 design.

I'd say the 2.5 will sto production by mid year....the mondo is just getting in early because it will go over to new ecoboost engines earlier than focus (which will wait till 2011 new model) in its next update (mid year in europe...). Whether a true high po replacmeent for the 2.5 exists (using the 2.0T in top spec form) i dont' know....still no gurantee it would come here anyway. With diesel wagon on the cards plus the 2.0T in base cars i don't know if a performance version is warranted market wise. The XR6 is priced competitively (esp with recent sales) and the mondeo doesnt' really have a suitable XR STyle to import....