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Old 22-01-2013, 12:07 PM   #1
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Default Ford Falcon BA-FG OEM Upgrade

After many months of development and durability testing we have a great Non-Adjustable package for the Ford Falcon. We believe we've come up with a package that offers far superior ride quality with improved handling to match while still using the factory coils for XR6, XR8 and GT

The package includes:
Non-adjustable 45mm (piston) monotube damper with spring height adjustment
Non Adjustable 45mm inverted monotube rear damper

12 months warranty including all track use(excluding all crashes )

Other features about the damper: fully serviceable/ rebuildable, with the ability to custom tune to suit individual customers.

We will upload photos soon.

Pricing $1000 including GST + Post
If you're located in Melbourne we have a fitting service available including set up of ride heights and safety check for $200

For further details
Mobile- Chris 0413962123
Email- chris.obrien@shockworks.com.au

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Old 23-01-2013, 05:17 PM   #2
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Would these shocks be suitable with aftermarket lowered & stiffer than factory springs?
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Old 23-01-2013, 05:51 PM   #3
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We have used these forces in a vehicle with heavy rates before with no issuse. I was a little surprised as we thought we would need to increase the forces. That car had 12Kg at the front and about 9 for the rear..
Do you have any idea what the rates are in the car at present?
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From memory 520lb Front and 310lb Rear.
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Old 23-01-2013, 06:10 PM   #5
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Perfect for our Ford dampers. The forces are based on the adjustable dampers we have developed on the soft setting. The Normal Ford XR front which around is 400lb and you can use the 520lb with no problems.
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Thanks for the quick responce guys, tossing up between a shock upgrade or just go all in and upgrade to coil overs.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:34 PM   #7
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Brett, I posted in your other thread before reading this one. How would these compare with Koni 82-2535SP1 for damping rate? Also what is the shock body/spring perch measurements - i.e do they allow more travel at low ride height than the stock length shocks? Can you buy fronts only?
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:36 PM   #8
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Hi Rusty,
I am not sure what the damping rates for the Koni dampers are so hard to compare with ours.
I do know that after spending many years tuning for Ford Australia and Prodrive I came away with a huge amount of experience with what makes the Fords great to drive. Our standard range of OE replacement dampers carry over all the original Ford damper lengths and rod travel with a threaded body with adjustable spring seat for both models which has 60mm of thread below where the standard spring seat would be. This allows for the change in spring length during the BA-BF models. We have also done 3D modelling on the original spring seat for the BA-BF and is now CNC'd alloy with the original seat profile.
As one of the keys to making the Ford handle well is the tuning of the rear dampers, I would be hesitent to just sell front dampers as the dampers are tuned as a package for the car.
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:27 PM   #9
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Hello Brett, I have a BA wagon and would like to retain the standard ride height
front and rear. Would these dampers be ok to use with the factory BA XT wagon
coils and leaf springs?

Also I am planning to replace the rubber bushes in the front upper/lower control
arms (which I think are still original from '02) with superpro polyurethane bushes.
Would you advise against this, or should I stick with the genuine rubber bushes
from Ford? Also are you aware of any problems with the factory front lower control
arm bush at all?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 17-08-2013, 01:50 PM   #10
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Hello Brett, I have a BA wagon and would like to retain the standard ride height
front and rear. Would these dampers be ok to use with the factory BA XT wagon
coils and leaf springs?

Also I am planning to replace the rubber bushes in the front upper/lower control
arms (which I think are still original from '02) with superpro polyurethane bushes.
Would you advise against this, or should I stick with the genuine rubber bushes
from Ford? Also are you aware of any problems with the factory front lower control
arm bush at all?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Firstly, let me apologize for the late reply as we are just flat out with tuning and deliveries at the moment.
The front of the wagon can use our adjustable dampers with no issue but the rear adjustable damper is 20mm shorter in the open length which I am sure will be fine but just not the full articulation of the factory unit. The compressed length is the same so should be no problem for the wagon. We have not done a proper tune on the wagon with the damping forces tuned for the ute, so if you are in Melbourne we could do a tune on the wagon for free if you are keen.
I would stick to the factory bushes for the front. I have tested the superpro bushes but had intermittent problems with squeaks especially after rain but may have been just an issue with the install or car. Impact harshness can be effected with the stiffer bushes as well.

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Old 04-03-2014, 07:54 PM   #11
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Hey guys,

Iím considering buying a set of these for my G6E Ecoboost, given the following:
- From my point of view the main reason for upgrading is to be to get rid of floatiness and body roll which is pretty bad at the moment,
- I donít really want to lower it too much since it is already scraping on driveways at the front, although having an adjustable front spring seat seems likely to take care of this anyway,
- I donít really want it to be quite as stiff (in compression at least) as a stock XR6 since a few people have said these are a bit rough and noisy on bad road surfaces, and XR6ís seem to get rattly after the first 100 kkms. Also I think this would spoil the character of the car a bit since the main benefit of this car is comfort.
- I might want to put a slightly stiffer spring in the front to improve turn in, if you agree itís a good idea, and this would require me to be able to work out what the existing spring rate is so that I can find one that is just a little stiffer, apparently itís supposed to be 13 % stiffer than an XT front spring, where the rears are supposed to be 40 % stiffer, and all four are supposed to ride about 15 mm lower,
- Iíd be hoping you could advise on approximate initial positioning for the front spring seat so I can have it close to correct when I assemble it.

Is it possible you can tell me:
- What is the standard FG XT front and rear spring rate, I can chase up a suitable spring from there on,
- What spring rates are these shocks designed to work best with, i.e. XT, XR6, other,
- What is the highest working height these shocks are suitable for, i.e. will G6E height of 15 mm below the XT model be OK,
- If I put these shocks in an FG XR6 would the ride be harder, softer, or the same, aside from going around corners better.

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Old 05-03-2014, 11:13 AM   #12
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Hi Matt,

We have just fitted a set of the OE dampers to a car and I had forgotten how much comfort we where able to achieve even though the handling and diagonal pitch is so much better. you answers below under your questions.

Is it possible you can tell me:
- What is the standard FG XT front and rear spring rate, I can chase up a suitable spring from there on,

i am really not sure what the XT rates are for front and rear but we developed the OE dampers using the XR springs.
- What spring rates are these shocks designed to work best with, i.e. XT, XR6, other,
The XR6 is what we tuned on but have also tested on the XR8 with big gains on the refinement of the impacts and handling.
- What is the highest working height these shocks are suitable for, i.e. will G6E height of 15 mm below the XT model be OK,
The dampers carry over all the factory damper travel which is better for very rough roads. 15mm down is no problem with the OE kit.
- If I put these shocks in an FG XR6 would the ride be harder, softer, or the same, aside from going around corners better.
I think you will find the ride to be more controlled with less harshness on the big impacts. Smaller continuous ripples or imperfections in the road surface are again more rounded and the body control is much more solid without quick vertical accelerations in the seat. The rear is also much flatter which helps the turn in and mid corner balance.

We spent a lot of time developing the OE damper kit ride and handling and many customers are quite surprised we can get much closer to better ride and handling then the factory tune.

I hope this helps mate!!

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Old 09-03-2014, 01:12 PM   #13
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Hi Shockworks,

I'm looking at upgrading my G6ET also.

Currently sitting on standard springs and shocks (10,000km to date), I'm looking for an improvement in handling, lowering the car is not a priority as its already a challenge avoiding scrapes, which probably more to do with the soft OE damper rate than ride height.

When you are free could you kindly advise the following,
  • Will I need to change my current OE springs?
  • Will the damper upgrade offering a stiffer ride like that of an XR6 which I owed previously?
  • Do you have affiliates in Sydney?

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Old 11-03-2014, 11:08 AM   #14
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Hi Shockworks,

I'm looking at upgrading my G6ET also.

Currently sitting on standard springs and shocks (10,000km to date), I'm looking for an improvement in handling, lowering the car is not a priority as its already a challenge avoiding scrapes, which probably more to do with the soft OE damper rate than ride height.

When you are free could you kindly advise the following,
  • Will I need to change my current OE springs?
  • Will the damper upgrade offering a stiffer ride like that of an XR6 which I owed previously?
  • Do you have affiliates in Sydney?

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Hi Struggo,
I think from memory the G6 spring rates could be a little softer than the XR rates but the dampers will still make quite an improvement over the factory units for handling. The ride will be a little firmer with impacts but found the G6 dampers to suffer with some decay or aftershake and felt underdamped. You should expect a cleaner feeling on rough roads and single impacts. The factory damper tune also made the rear feel a but lazy with changes of direction so we have done a lot of work on this. Compared to the XR6 though, I think they would have a similar feel in compression but with much better control.
You can have the dampers fitted at Eastcoast suspensions up in Sydney as they have a great team and know there stuff. Really good for wheel alignments as well!!

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!!

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Old 18-03-2014, 12:40 PM   #15
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Just a thought. Might be worth advertising these on ebay as well. Plenty of Bilsteins, Konis, Monroes, Tiens on offer there (the opposition) and they are getting much better exposure than you guys even though you seem to have an equal or superior product. Hope you don't mind the suggestion. Matt
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Old 18-03-2014, 12:44 PM   #16
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Just a thought. Might be worth advertising these on ebay as well. Plenty of Bilsteins, Konis, Monroes, Tiens on offer there (the opposition) and they are getting much better exposure than you guys even though you seem to have an equal or superior product. Hope you don't mind the suggestion. Matt
Hi Matt,
From the start we decided not to advertise our products on sites like Ebay. I know it would probably improve the sales a bit but did not want to go in that direction for our product.
Thanks for the suggestion though!!

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Hi Struggo,
I think from memory the G6 spring rates could be a little softer than the XR rates but the dampers will still make quite an improvement over the factory units for handling. The ride will be a little firmer with impacts but found the G6 dampers to suffer with some decay or aftershake and felt underdamped. You should expect a cleaner feeling on rough roads and single impacts. The factory damper tune also made the rear feel a but lazy with changes of direction so we have done a lot of work on this. Compared to the XR6 though, I think they would have a similar feel in compression but with much better control.
You can have the dampers fitted at Eastcoast suspensions up in Sydney as they have a great team and know there stuff. Really good for wheel alignments as well!!

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!!

Cheers
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Sorry for the late reply Brett. Thanks for the feedback its appreciated.

I will be going down this path in the near future, I'll keep you posted.
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Hi Guys

These still going for $1000 a set?

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These still going for $1000 a set?

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We have the OE sets for the BA-BF going for $600 until sold out, but all out of the OE FG kits and will not be making them again as most customers now buy the adjustable kit. Sorry adumb:-(

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No worries, Thanks for the reply Brett!
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Hello Brett,

I've got a customer interested in a set of OEM replacements for his FG XR6T ute, do you still do the OEM upgrade kit?

Thanks.

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I've got a customer interested in a set of OEM replacements for his FG XR6T ute, do you still do the OEM upgrade kit?

Thanks.

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Hi Damo,

Sorry mate, we sold the last set of OE and due to the customer base wanting out adjustable kit, will not be stocking any more. Just sold the last kit a week ago!!
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Sorry mate, we sold the last set of OE and due to the customer base wanting out adjustable kit, will not be stocking any more. Just sold the last kit a week ago!!
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Damn, whats the price difference on the adjustable ones?
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Damn, whats the price difference on the adjustable ones?
Hi Damo,
Sorry the fully adjustable kit is $2200 retail now. We carried the Asuuie dollar drop for two years but ended up not making any profit from the kits so had to increase the price 10%.

Sorry Damo but thanks for the inquiry mate:-)
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No worries thanks anyways guys
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Hi Guys,

Am I correct in saying you still have these for BA - BF at $600?

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Am I correct in saying you still have these for BA - BF at $600?

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Hi Dave,

Yes, we have two OE kits left at that price mate.

If you want to order, send me an email to brett.obrien@shockworks.com.au and I will send you our account details.
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Fantastic ! Thanks Brett, just sent you an email.

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Oh man only one left if thats the case... should I ... or shouldnt I..... hmmmm...

Are you still offering the tune for the back of a BA wagon on the OEM's?
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