86 KC Engine

mintomax · 30-10-2006, 08:51 AM

need some advice, have been offered a 2nd hand engine from a Telstar with a 5sp gearbox, no sure of the year atm, any one know if it will fit in a 86 KC laser..??

mainly worried about it fitting to the engine mounts and that the gearbox will fit with out any modifications..

any help or advice would be great..

smally289 · 30-10-2006, 10:01 AM

Wont drop straight in. It may be possible with some mucking around, but these jobs always turn out harder than they first look!

VippiN · 30-10-2006, 12:13 PM

Smally351 is right on the money. There is no point putting a Telstar engine in your KC when the B6 engines cost pittens ($200ish) and do not require modification.

People forget that it's not just fitting an engine. You then have to get *every* thing to match up, and then the real *****, the wiring.

mintomax · 31-10-2006, 08:58 PM

Yeah thats kinda helpful, thanks guys..

I realise that the engines cost bugga all, this one is free and upgrading to a 5sp rather than the 4 is an added bonus, I really just don't wanna pull it all apart and find that its gonna be one of those 6wk nightmares to get back together.. haha

VippiN · 31-10-2006, 09:48 PM

My spider sense is telling me.. The word customised will used a lot if you go through with this.

mintomax · 04-11-2006, 09:08 PM

ok VippiN, what does your spider sense say about a Meteor engine..

I made a bit of a stuff up, it was never a bloody Telstar motor, brain couldn't remember that it was actually a Meteor engine..

I want to replace the 1.3 4sp Laser engine with a 1.5 Meteor 5sp engine..

Will this work, without *too many* customised/modified accessories..??

rag top · 04-11-2006, 09:18 PM

Is the meteor pre-86?? I'm guessing it is as you mentioned it was the 1.5, same as the KB Laser. AFAIK, the meteor and laser use the same motor, just differences in the body. Not too sure on the KB-KC swap, due to emission changes in '86.

mintomax · 04-11-2006, 09:30 PM

Thanks rag top,

that will be handy too.. i have to say I am not sure of the year/model, though I am running the '86 without the emmision.. the car really 'shat its self' when I took out the plug, so am running it without emmision control hoses..

main concern is that the engine mounts and extrators and such.. I just want to make sure that the engine will all fall into place, once the old one is removed..

VippiN · 04-11-2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mintomax

ok VippiN, what does your spider sense say about a Meteor engine..

I made a bit of a stuff up, it was never a bloody Telstar motor, brain couldn't remember that it was actually a Meteor engine..

I want to replace the 1.3 4sp Laser engine with a 1.5 Meteor 5sp engine..

Will this work, without *too many* customised/modified accessories..??

OK - This SHOULD be fine. As far as I can tell you're going from an E3 to E5 which uses same mounts, wiring, gearbox, everything should be a straight swap and bolt in fine.

Now I could be wrong as it's a KC and I haven't checked out the 1.3L that were in them (personally I always steered clear of em) but i've never heard of a B3. B6 was always the norm as far as I knew in the KC.

Either way the gearbox will interchange. That I know for sure. What you need to look at is the mounts and the wiring loom. See if it's much different if any. Just be careful before you start.

Rob

vbtruk · 09-12-2006, 05:55 AM

Hi guy's, got an 84 Laser for free with a cooked motor for getting around in while i build my ute, it's a 1.3 and i got a 1.5L from the wreckers who assured me it will swap straight over can you guy's please tell me if i can split the motor from the gearbox and pull just the motor out of the car or do i have to pull out the whole thing as one and split and attach new motor then re-insert it in the car??? Also what is the general steps to start with i have done a few engine changes with the straight six's and V8 but not front wheel drives all info highly appreciated as i want to do it tommorow.
It has a 4 speed manual.

VippiN · 09-12-2006, 10:42 AM

So you've got a 1.3L KB Laser and you want to put in a 1.5L? If it's an E5 yes it will attach to the gearbox, if it's a B5 it won't. All depends on if it's from a KA/KB or a KC.

vbtruk · 09-12-2006, 12:29 PM

how can i know what engine it is? I know it came out of a laser. Also how do i go about getting the swap done can i leave the gearbox inside the car and seperate the motor to get the motor out or do i have to remove the whole lot??? Gearbox and motor?

vbtruk · 09-12-2006, 02:33 PM

was told by wrecker it came out of a KB laser???

VippiN · 09-12-2006, 04:31 PM

Then you'll be right.

vbtruk · 09-12-2006, 04:55 PM

so can the gearbox be split from the motor in the car or does the whole lot have to come out to do the engine swap????

vbtruk · 10-12-2006, 08:36 AM

can it be done or is it wasting time.

vbtruk · 10-12-2006, 06:43 PM

Yes you can remove the engine without having to remove the gearbox, i split the engine from the gearbox inside the engine bay removed the single engine mount and she came straight out.
Thanks for the help.

vbtruk · 14-12-2006, 06:43 AM

OK got the new 1.5L in and bolted up perfect one problem is it is running a bit rough and wont hold idle any idea's on what to check???