Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 21-04-2018, 11:17 AM   #1
csv8
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
csv8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Central Q..10kms west of Rocky...
Posts: 8,303
Post Isuzu Considering Raptor Rival. DMax Arctic Truck.

"Isuzu Australia could bring its own rival to the Ford Ranger Raptor, Toyota Hilux Rugged and Holden Colorado Sportscat with the introduction of a ute based on the UK’s D-Max Arctic Truck.
Speaking with Drive, newly appointed director of product planning Yugo Kiyofuji said he was considering bringing a factory-built tough truck in the same vein as the incoming wave of performance utes.
“Yes, there is an opportunity,” said Kiyofuji.
“We just like to permeate the new image about LS-T into the market and the customer will dictate if they want something with more bells and whistles, and we’ll decide what to add on to this.”
The latest MY18 LS-T brings added interior comfort and new three-span leaf rear suspension for a plusher ride, but it doesn’t reach the aggressive styling and off-road focus of the upcoming Raptor or recently launched Sportscat and Rugged X. However, unlike previous efforts by Isuzu to launch kitted-editions put together at dealerships, Isuzu is planning to build a serious effort out of the factory in Thailand.
“Basically dealers setup the early special accessory models and it didn’t really catch the market. Basically, suspension was standard, interior and plastics were added and everything. It was a trial, but it didn’t really succeed from my perspective.
“So that’s why we setup separate exclusive marketing collateral for this, and then the market will dictate if this is enough or not.”

The move to three-span leaf suspension might pave the way for an independent rear suspension set-up similar to the Nissan Navara and Mercedes-Benz X-Class, though it would probably be reserved for the next-generation ute that’s due sometime after 2020, but Isuzu wants to balance performance with its ‘fit for purpose’ slogan.
Isuzu in the UK offers a dressed-up D-Max Arctic Truck AT35 adding 17-inch alloys with 35-inch 315/70 Nokian Rotiiva tyres for 290mm clearance via 30mm body and 20mm suspension lift and Fox Performance Shox, but the engine is a relatively small 1.9-litre turbo diesel producing 121kW and 360Nm – the Australian market trucks produce 130kW and 430Nm.
“Potentially [we would go rear coil suspension], for the next gen. It’s a bit early stage still and whether the suspension changes or remains or not will be dependent on what customers feel. If this [three-span leaf] is not enough it will be fed back to the manufacturer and go into the plan on whether we change the three-leaf or go into something totally new.
It seems Isuzu has ruled out a V6 for now, with Euro 6 its focus once the regulations become clearer.
“Some boast about V6 and some about figures but we are not trying to go into the battle of the figures.
“Potentially [we’ll bring the 1.9-litre here]. We have to think about the whole uses of the customer, in case the 1.9-litre is too weak and it’s not a good choice for us. We’ll see what its potential is.
“Currently in the market Euro 6 is under discussion. Potentially (we’ll build a whole new engine), it’s still ambiguous how the Euro 6 regulation will go ahead.”
__________________
CSGhia

Last edited by csv8; 14-06-2018 at 12:17 PM.
csv8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-04-2018, 04:15 PM   #2
Falcon SXR8
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Falcon SXR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,190
Default Re: Isuzu Considering Raptor Rival. DMax Arctic Truck.

Don't think the 1.9 will cut it unfortunately with the isuzu faithful.
__________________
Had
EB XR8
AU XR8 220 (awsome car )
AU Fairmont
BA MK2 XR6 Turbo
Now
XDUB
Falcon SXR8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-04-2018, 04:35 PM   #3
jpd80
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jpd80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,152
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Thoughtful contributions to our community 
Default Re: Isuzu Considering Raptor Rival. DMax Arctic Truck.

Therefore, there's nothing that's practically off the shelf ready to sell here
and copying the Raptor sports truck is no guarantee of sales success either.
jpd80 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 23-04-2018, 02:57 PM   #4
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: Isuzu Considering Raptor Rival. DMax Arctic Truck.

Since when is the Merc and Navara coil spring live rear axle IRS? Journo should know better.
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 23-04-2018, 07:37 PM   #5
CyberWasp
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
CyberWasp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: In Front of a Monitor
Posts: 1,620
Default Re: Isuzu Considering Raptor Rival. DMax Arctic Truck.

The car companies are crazy for not making what the market wants.
How many Rangers for example do you see with Flares, Lift and Bigger Wheels?

For a lot of people it is a hassle to modify a vehicle to get that look as you have to consider warranties and the legalities of bigger wheels and offsets, not to mention gearing, speedometers and insurance companies.

A factory solution makes sense and avoids these complications.

__________________
2004 Mercury Silver Falcon XR6T - 5 Speed
2017 Platinum White Mustang GT - 6 Speed
2022 Blue Thai-Special for Daily Duties - Auto
CyberWasp is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 24-04-2018, 09:26 AM   #6
vztrt
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
 
vztrt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,794
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: vztrt is one of the most consistent and respected contributors to AFF, I have found his contributions are most useful to discussion as well as answering members queries. 
Default Re: Isuzu Considering Raptor Rival. DMax Arctic Truck.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberWasp View Post
The car companies are crazy for not making what the market wants.
How many Rangers for example do you see with Flares, Lift and Bigger Wheels?

For a lot of people it is a hassle to modify a vehicle to get that look as you have to consider warranties and the legalities of bigger wheels and offsets, not to mention gearing, speedometers and insurance companies.

A factory solution makes sense and avoids these complications.
I see more aftermarket 4x4 shops opening up....bout as much as caravans. This is why the oems are jumping on the bandwagon. The market is growing in this area. This and caravans.
__________________
Daniel
vztrt is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 24-04-2018, 11:29 AM   #7
Vesper Martini
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Vesper Martini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Victoria
Posts: 7,854
Default Re: Isuzu Considering Raptor Rival. DMax Arctic Truck.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberWasp View Post
The car companies are crazy for not making what the market wants.
How many Rangers for example do you see with Flares, Lift and Bigger Wheels?

For a lot of people it is a hassle to modify a vehicle to get that look as you have to consider warranties and the legalities of bigger wheels and offsets, not to mention gearing, speedometers and insurance companies.

A factory solution makes sense and avoids these complications.

image
Indeed. I forget who it was, a regular poster on here fitted larger wheels to his Ranger as many do, but later found by increasing the overall track it made it illegal. that's despite having the factory flared Guards fitted.

So reluctantly he pulled the wheels off.

If they make a factory option it will address this.
__________________
______________________________
2015 Territory Titanium RWD Diesel - SOLD
2016 BMW X5 xdrive 30D Msport
Seadoo Challenger 210SE 310HP
Vesper Martini is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 02:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL