Ranger Raptor $74,990 - Page 3

jpd80 · 12-04-2018, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Won't the engine weight loss be offset by the suspension changes and heavier bash plates etc?

Probably but imagine it around 100Kg heavier in the nose with the 3.2 I-5
so yes, a mixture of weight reduction, better steering response while also
avoiding those Asian capacity taxes.

jgmdat · 12-04-2018, 07:14 AM

$81,639.00 drive away. September delivery in Brisbane. Checked with the dealer and he has no XB's available.

Bossxr8 · 12-04-2018, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by boss351290

Yes it might do. It has 10 gears not 3 and 2 turbos and it still can’t keep up to a Xb gt. You think after 45 years they would do something a little more. A joke really when you think about it. That’s why I spent my money on a sprint

Not much to brag about considering an XB would be at least 600 kg lighter.

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Won't the engine weight loss be offset by the suspension changes and heavier bash plates etc?

Most likely. The tyres weigh a heap on their own. I guess it also depends on how much the watts link rear end weighs in comparison to the leaf spring rear end as well.

Can anyone remember if the XE was much heavier than the XD after the switch to the watts link rear end?

BENT_8 · 12-04-2018, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Can anyone remember if the XE was much heavier than the XD after the switch to the watts link rear end?

I'd imagine the watts link would be very similar.

A leaf spring with associated insulators, hanger and shackle would weigh more than a coil and insulator.
So its really only the weight of the pivot, rods and attachment points which would offset the saving above.

It wouldn't be much if anything.

ozrunner · 12-04-2018, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jgmdat

$81,639.00 drive away. September delivery in Brisbane......

Although obviously they will sell to some, that's a big ask for something that only comes with a 2L diesel no matter how good they say it is.

Such a shame as it does look wicked and its suspension is awesome. 3.5 Ecoboost or Coyote no problems ,where do I sign but not today

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jpd80 · 12-04-2018, 06:10 PM

I wonder what the difference in lease payments would be over say a Wildtrak or FX4,
maybe that's a better way to look at Raptor.

jgmdat · 12-04-2018, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ozrunner

Although obviously they will sell to some, that's a big ask for something that only comes with a 2L diesel no matter how good they say it is.

Such a shame as it does look wicked and its suspension is awesome. 3.5 Ecoboost or Coyote no problems ,where do I sign but not today

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Put those motors in it and it will be $100k, then everyone bangs on about how expensive it is which you are now so i guess just carry on.

RANGEREST · 12-04-2018, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I wonder what the difference in lease payments would be over say a Wildtrak or FX4,
maybe that's a better way to look at Raptor.

Here's a rough estimate, Cheap as!

$80,000 over5 years
at 4% interest rate
with a residual of 30% which is $24000
Weekly Repayments
$256.18

$60000 over5 years
at $4% interest rate
with a residual of 30% which is $18000
Weekly Repayments
$192.14

Ben73 · 12-04-2018, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ozrunner

Although obviously they will sell to some, that's a big ask for something that only comes with a 2L diesel no matter how good they say it is.

Such a shame as it does look wicked and its suspension is awesome. 3.5 Ecoboost or Coyote no problems ,where do I sign but not today

.

Agreed.

It's the best 2L, twin turbo diesel I have ever seen in a ute, but that doesn't mean it's the best engine for the car.

Funny how people keep saying the 2l is better than the 3.2L.

It's like saying the Ecoboost Falcon was better then the standard NA 6. Maybe objectively it was, but more people bought the NA6, turbo 6 or the XR8 over the Ecoboost.

jpd80 · 12-04-2018, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

Agreed.

It's the best 2L, twin turbo diesel I have ever seen in a ute, but that doesn't mean it's the best engine for the car.

Funny how people keep saying the 2l is better than the 3.2L.

It's like saying the Ecoboost Falcon was better then the standard NA 6. Maybe objectively it was, but more people bought the NA6, turbo 6 or the XR8 over the Ecoboost.

They don't have any of those engines in the Ranger so it's an unequal comparison.

The more I look at this the more I see that Ford only had a choice of two diesel engines,
the 3.2 or the new 2.0 Panther to showcase their new diesel technology.

Forget the 2.3 Ecoboost, that was a very late inclusion forced because the yanks came
wanting a Ranger after the 2018 refresh was done and locked in, V engines were ruled out
because there was no time to redo the engine bay and change everything so a V6 could fit.

simon varley · 13-04-2018, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

It's like saying the Ecoboost Falcon was better then the standard NA 6. Maybe objectively it was, but more people bought the NA6, turbo 6 or the XR8 over the Ecoboost.

actually, I think that both objectively and subjectively the 2.0 was a better car than the 4.0 as the weight save on the front end just transformed its feel*. the problem was getting people into the car to drive it - same as it's going to be for Raptor

*(would I have bought a 2.0 Falcon though? - hell no!)

BENT_8 · 13-04-2018, 03:43 PM

I remember when only milk and juice came in 2L...oh how times have changed.

**GasoLane** · 13-04-2018, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

I remember when only milk and juice came in 2L...oh how times have changed.

I guess you don't watch the F1 then

jpd80 · 13-04-2018, 05:52 PM

Dealers are reporting strong interest in RR, some dealers are already sold out through to December.
PX2 Ranger is now in run out mode...

BENT_8 · 13-04-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

I guess you don't watch the F1 then

No, i dont.

**GasoLane** · 13-04-2018, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

No, i dont.

Ah ok. F1 cars are 1.6 Litres.

BENT_8 · 13-04-2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Dealers are reporting strong interest in RR, some dealers are already sold out through to December.
PX2 Ranger is now in run out mode...

Huh..'Dealers', from what i've seen one dealer told you his 'good' number was sold out and hasnt answered as to how any others have gone yet.

**Fordman1** · 13-04-2018, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

I remember when only milk and juice came in 2L...oh how times have changed.

Don’t forget about 2.0 litre Commodores ( on sale right now)

BENT_8 · 13-04-2018, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

Don’t forget about 2.0 litre Commodores ( on sale right now)

Marketed as a performance vehicle?

jpd80 · 13-04-2018, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Huh..'Dealers', from what i've seen one dealer told you his 'good' number was sold out and hasnt answered as to how any others have gone yet.

I have other contacts via PM apart form the the ones you read on that other site,
South Australia, NSW and Victoria have also had good response.

boss351290 · 13-04-2018, 07:49 PM

I thought the ranger raptor would not sell very well at $75k. I have changed my mind. I just saw about 8 Mercedes Benz X class being delivered to a dealership in Newcastle. Gateshead actually. They look very very average in the flesh.
I think the raptor will smash the X class.

jpd80 · 13-04-2018, 07:57 PM

They are Nissan Navaras with a clever disguise...

BENT_8 · 13-04-2018, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I have other contacts via PM apart form the the ones you read on that other site,
South Australia, NSW and Victoria have also had good response.

So you responded on that forum to that dealer and 2 minutes later put what you had discovered on this forum but had been informed by other 'contacts' and refrained from posting until he told you his story and everything you reported was exactly what he had posted.

Riiight, cool spin dude!

jpd80 · 13-04-2018, 08:04 PM

Absolutely did it just to tick you off or was I busy responding to PMs
while answering both forums

Chill mate, it's not all about you....

naddis01 · 13-04-2018, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

So you responded on that forum to that dealer and 2 minutes later put what you had discovered on this forum but had been informed by other 'contacts' and refrained from posting until he told you his story and everything you reported was exactly what he had posted.

Riiight, cool spin dude!

Jpd is the last person I would question on this forum.

BENT_8 · 13-04-2018, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Absolutely did it just to tick you off or was I busy responding to PMs
while answering both forums

Chill mate, it's not all about you....

Lol, im not the one purporting to have insider knowledge when the knowledge you have had been already posted almost verbatim on another public forum 2 minutes earlier..lol

BENT_8 · 13-04-2018, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Jpd is the last person I would question on this forum.

That doesn't mean you're right, just means you haven't looked very far..

jpd80 · 13-04-2018, 08:12 PM

That you know...

The allocation for Australia is roughly what Ford did for FX4
so pretty safe number to shift so not surprising that orders are there.

I think the response to FX4 gave Ford more confidence, remember
that FX4 sold out quick and they had to complete orders over next month.

I'll say right here that I'm not an insider, I pick up a few things here and there
but I guarantee that you wouldn't know an insider even if they responded to you.

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Lol, im not the one purporting to have insider knowledge when the knowledge you have had been already posted almost verbatim on another public forum 2 minutes earlier..lol

Verbatim?

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Originally Posted by jpd80
Dealers are reporting strong interest in RR, some dealers are already sold out through to December.
PX2 Ranger is now in run out mode...

I can see what you mean but it was me combining what he said with what came in from others.
I was asking that dealer on Sunshine Coast whether dealers (near him) were getting the same response.
Other dealers down south are seeing the same response but i can't speak to their allocations.

I'm done.

jgmdat · 13-04-2018, 10:11 PM

If you read the "Dealer Confidential Bulletin" the Raptor has some pretty cool stuff for a dual cab ute.

BENT_8 · 13-04-2018, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I can see what you mean but it was me combining what he said with what came in from others.
I was asking that dealer on Sunshine Coast whether dealers (near him) were getting the same response.
Other dealers down south are seeing the same response but i can't speak to their allocations.

I'm done.

All good fella, just a little stir to keep you honest