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Old 14-10-2021, 08:54 AM   #1
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Australia becoming a 'dumping ground' for polluting cars as government delays signing on to international standards abc news

being an ignorant one what are they prattling on about?
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Old 14-10-2021, 10:22 AM   #2
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being an ignorant one what are they prattling on about?
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being an ignorant one what are they prattling on about?
Without reading the news story (no link) I'd say because Australia's emissions regs are not as strict as some other countries, new vehicles are being sent here which won't pass these other countries regs. It's not like our market is being flooded with new vehicles and they all pollute more than the same models going into other markets. Stock shortages proves that.
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our fuel quality, needs to change before we could adapt.
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our fuel quality, needs to change before we could adapt.
This - can be done with a stroke of the pen but I think the next fuel quality standards review is due in 2027 or something.
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I really struggle to comprehend how they arrive at these statistics???

“The department said an estimated 620 Australians died in 2015 due to transport-related air pollution, equal to more than half the national road toll, and which cost the economy about $9.2 billion.”
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2016? 2017? 20118? 2019?… (forget 2020, 2021… That’s Covid!) All crap to appease agendas!
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I thought diesel standards are at Euro VI already, all my vans are at least, so is this more about petrol powered engines?
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“Dumping”, what emotive garbage. Car makers only export cars out to meet the countries standards and needs. No point in offering a 5 star car in a developing market.
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“The department said an estimated 620 Australians died in 2015 due to transport-related air pollution, equal to more than half the national road toll, and which cost the economy about $9.2 billion.”
They just apply a % to the total deaths. These arent deaths proven to have been caused by air pollution.

But a big chunk of the air pollution we inhale is when we cook, use the fireplace, the barbecue, etc. It's incorrect to attribute it all to cars, especially considering it's particulate matter/smoke that is the largest contributor.

Wasnt there a thread here a while back about banning fireplaces?
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This - can be done with a stroke of the pen but I think the next fuel quality standards review is due in 2027 or something.
As long as Fuel Companies can Brib Donate & employ Lobbyists , It'll never happen..
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being an ignorant one what are they prattling on about?
The important part of the statement is ABC - do not believe anything that they sprout. Been at two events and then watched their reports - a total fabrication. Also, any of their reports that have a science content are usually lacking the full story, are peddling an agenda or just wrong.
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I thought diesel standards are at Euro VI already, all my vans are at least, so is this more about petrol powered engines?
no we are still at Euro 5. What you might see is that we get Eu6 as a freebie in some variants where Eu5 is no longer manufactured anywhere. My transit has Ad Blue which typically isn't required for Eu5 commercial vehicles so I think that's what's happened there.
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It's a shame that Government doesn't put up some carrot sticks towards less polluting vehicles. For example there could be GST exemption for small EVs.

But it looks like many people are actively shifting their super funds into non-polluting and low carbon industries, and also starting to buy more EVs without subsidies.

Starting to see so many Tesla vehicles in Perth western suburbs now. That's happened in the last few months.
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It's a shame that Government doesn't put up some carrot sticks towards less polluting vehicles. For example there could be GST exemption for small EVs.

But it looks like many people are actively shifting their super funds into non-polluting and low carbon industries, and also starting to buy more EVs without subsidies.

Starting to see so many Tesla vehicles in Perth western suburbs now. That's happened in the last few months.
We should have incentivised our own manufacturing industry through buyer incentives rather than hand over fist spondoolies to the foreign auto manufacturers - no GST on purchase, three years free registration for all new Australian manufactured cars etc.

Make them a very attractive proposition for customers.
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just another sensationalist tree hugger driven media puff piece intended to cause "advancement" through public outrage....
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