Jeep Gladiator - 2020

[chrisandsharon]

There will be a Rubicon model with Dana 44s, lockers, swaybar disconnects, 33s...will shyte on most dual cabs then in most off-road conditions. Definitely a lifestyle rig. Nice.

https://mr4x4.com.au/jeep-gladiator-leaked-photos/

Another link .....

https://www.trucks.com/2018/11/19/20...-what-we-know/


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[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by my gt

i dont like it

Gidday Gino!!.... What ya been up to?

[chevypower]

Some more info on it. Can’t wait to test out the V6 diesel Rubicon. http://www.trucktrend.com/news/1811-...ckup-revealed/

[chrisandsharon]

I hope the floor is vinyl!!

[Ben73]

From 2020, though, the pickup will be offered with a 3.0-litre V6 turbo-diesel making 194kW of power and 599Nm of torque

Sounds about right for a large, offroad beast.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by mike_nofx

In my opinion, any ute that NEVER sees a proper load in the tray or tows a decent load and is only used for soccer drop off is stupid, which is many of them.

And no, not only off-road, but sometimes off road.

So does that mean we are only allowed to buy a vehicle that will meet our sole needs rather than buy anything we like, want and can afford?

Sounds like you not only got out of the wrong side of bed, but stubbed your toe, spilt your coffee over the centre console, scraped your wheel on the gutter, got cut off by a mum in a Ranger and your card got swallowed by the ATM on the way home.....

[chrisandsharon]

Video link - https://youtu.be/izYQ6ztcflQ

[Vesper Martini]

You don't Buy one of these to be practical round the streets, but saying that it looks perfect for a lifestyle rig.
I like - especially with the V6 diesel

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Is it just me or does this thing look kinda stupid?

Kinda stupid, as in pointless, or out of proportion, with its long wheel base and rear over hang?

If they bring the 3.0 diesel down here in Rubicon spec I will buy one. None of the current dual cabs appeal to me enough to justify their purchase price.
Jeep will be mad to not release the bigger diesel in this market considering the popularity of the double cab ute, and currently they can claim the highest output of the lot. That will probably change come 2020 when its suppose to be released.

I had a JK Rubicon and it was an absolute beast. Regret selling it.
This seems to fix everything that was wrong with the standard Wranglers... small cramped interior load space, thirsty petrol with limited fuel range (when pushed hard/low range or running lift/winch bars/anything over 33s), small tow rating - 2.3tonne.
Wider track and longer wheel base should make it ride better too. For most people it will be a more practical vehicle than what its based off IMO.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by smoo

Kinda stupid, as in pointless, or out of proportion, with its long wheel base and rear over hang?

If they bring the 3.0 diesel down here in Rubicon spec I will buy one. None of the current dual cabs appeal to me enough to justify their purchase price.
Jeep will be mad to not release the bigger diesel in this market considering the popularity of the double cab ute, and currently they can claim the highest output of the lot. That will probably change come 2020 when its suppose to be released.

I had a JK Rubicon and it was an absolute beast. Regret selling it.
This seems to fix everything that was wrong with the standard Wranglers... small cramped interior load space, thirsty petrol with limited fuel range (when pushed hard/low range or running lift/winch bars/anything over 33s), small tow rating - 2.3tonne.
Wider track and longer wheel base should make it ride better too. For most people it will be a more practical vehicle than what its based off IMO.

Out of proportion. And poorly styled, or should I say not styled, around the rear window. It's square. But then again there's not much they can do with the boxy body. The body shape doesn't suit having a long tray hanging off the back imo.

[Ben73]

It does look a little strange, but I think a black one with a nice canopy will look tough as.
Add a few aftermarket mods that many Wranglers have, like a nice bullbar and I think it will look great.

[DFB FGXR6]

Jeep to pitch Gladiator at the higher end -

https://www.goauto.com.au/news/jeep/...-30/76705.html

“I can’t get into pricing but we do not see this as a low-end type of a vehicle,” he said on the Jeep stand. “With all the utility that it has and all of the things that it can do, we see this going after the higher end and really different buyers."



Cant say I'm particularly surprised by this.

[Bossxr8]

It would want to do better than the Wrangler it's based on. Especially considering most of it's competitors are 5 star.

https://www.goauto.com.au/news/jeep/...-06/76790.html



One-star safety rating awarded to new Jeep Wrangler in latest Euro NCAP tests


By RON HAMMERTON


EUROPE’S independent New Car Assessment Program (Euro NCAP) has awarded Jeep’s new fourth-generation Wrangler a lowly one-star safety rating, saying it lags far behind its competitors on safety.

In its comments on the adult protection crash testing, Euro NCAP’s engineers criticised the structural integrity of the Wrangler, describing the bodyshell as unstable.

They said the join between the A-pillar and trans-fascia beam had been damaged in such a way that indicated it would not be able to withstand higher loads. The footwell, it said, had “reached the limits of its structural integrity”.

In the offset test, driver chest protection was rated as weak, while leg protection was marginal.

In the full-width crash test, the rear passenger protection was rated as poor – the lowest rating – while driver chest protection was marginal.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It would want to do better than the Wrangler it's based on. Especially considering most of it's competitors are 5 star.

Has any of its competitors actually done a recent test?
I thought EuroNCAP was recently made a lot harder.

Yes 1 star is bad. But I would be interested in knowing how many stars it would have been a couple of years ago.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Has any of its competitors actually done a recent test?
I thought EuroNCAP was recently made a lot harder.

Yes 1 star is bad. But I would be interested in knowing how many stars it would have been a couple of years ago.

Yes the Merc X Class. Possibly others.

But the new tests are only harder because of the addition of passive safety systems like AEB, lane assist etc. The Jeep failed so badly because of the way it crumpled so badly. So it still wouldn't have done well.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Yes the Merc X Class. Possibly others.

But the new tests are only harder because of the addition of passive safety systems like AEB, lane assist etc. The Jeep failed so badly because of the way it crumpled so badly. So it still wouldn't have done well.

Those are active safety features. I’d still have one. I’d feel safer on the muddy or snowy trail in a Rubicon than a Volvo station wagon.

[Bossxr8]

So this thing starts at $75,450. That’s bloody expensive. And no diesel.

Can see this going the way of the merc x class.

[Sioso]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

So this thing starts at $75,450. That’s bloody expensive. And no diesel.

Can see this going the way of the merc x class.

Yeah my brother was looking at one of these but the price has changed all that, you're going to be looking at close to $85K on the road for a base model.......Ridiculous money for what it is.

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

So this thing starts at $75,450. That’s bloody expensive. And no diesel.

Can see this going the way of the merc x class.

They sold 228,000 Wranglers in the US last year to which this car is a derivative of - I would probably disagree with this sentiment on that basis.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

They sold 228,000 Wranglers in the US last year to which this car is a derivative of - I would probably disagree with this sentiment on that basis.

I was referring to australia. Not the us. It will be a tiny seller here.

But then again everything jeep is like cancer here. Nobody wants it. Went from selling 30,000 cars a few years ago to less than 6,000 last year. Massive fall.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I was referring to australia. Not the us. It will be a tiny seller here.

But then again everything jeep is like cancer here. Nobody wants it. Went from selling 30,000 cars a few years ago to less than 6,000 last year. Massive fall.

When they released the updated Jeep Grand Cherokee they were everywhere, every man and his dog had one, now you hardly see them around anywhere, probably all already sitting in wreckers because every small maintenance item costs $26,000

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

When they released the updated Jeep Grand Cherokee they were everywhere, every man and his dog had one, now you hardly see them around anywhere, probably all already sitting in wreckers because every small maintenance item costs $26,000

Yeah, that version of the VM Motori diesel was prone to going ding without warning,
they cost a lot of bucks too and I doubt Jeep would stand by customers.....

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

They sold 228,000 Wranglers in the US last year to which this car is a derivative of - I would probably disagree with this sentiment on that basis.

Reports are suggesting that the Gladiator is not selling as well as expected in the US, Jeep are now starting to discount to help them move.

With regards to Australian pricing, those prices are about what I was expecting. Having a petrol engine is certainly a differentiator but without diesel, this thing is going to sell in very small numbers.

[Bossxr8]

I don’t really get the point of it. It’s fairly useless as a ute, cause it can’t carry much weight nor tow much.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Yeah, that version of the VM Motori diesel was prone to going ding without warning,
they cost a lot of bucks too and I doubt Jeep would stand by customers.....

Is that the same Motor as used in the RAM 1500..??

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I don’t really get the point of it. It’s fairly useless as a ute, cause it can’t carry much weight nor tow much.

Honestly, it's the sort of thing that Mahindra could do with diesel for a fraction of the price

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by hayseed

Is that the same Motor as used in the RAM 1500..??

Yup - VM Motori 3L diesel V6

Is the Gladiator F150 size or Thailand special size?

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I don’t really get the point of it. It’s fairly useless as a ute, cause it can’t carry much weight nor tow much.

Same analogy applied to Ranger Raptor?
Both utes, both have similar payload and towing specs (although this Jeep is rated to 3.5t and 800kg payload in the USA).

I can see it appeal to existing Wrangler owners that like the concept, quirkinesses and off road ability but want a higher towing capacity and more space (normal Wrangler has pathetic load space).

Or someone in the market for a Ute that is actually decent off road without a throw back to the 1980s in ride quality, handling, performance, ergonomics and equipment levels of the 70 series.

Considering the current crop of high end Thai specials (Ranger Raptor excluded, by most accounts) are seriously over priced but don’t excel in any aspect, it is no surprise Jeep have tried to cash in on this overpriced emotionally driven segment.

Disappointing it won’t be sold here with the V6 diesel, or Jeep couldn’t offer the Rubicon with the Hemi V8.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Yup - VM Motori 3L diesel V6

Is the Gladiator F150 size or Thailand special size?

Gladiator is based off mid sized Wrangler.
Also,
Ram and GC now have fully reworked V6 diesel
that fixes all the failure prone areas, it’s a lot tougher.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by smoo

Same analogy applied to Ranger Raptor?
Both utes, both have similar payload and towing specs (although this Jeep is rated to 3.5t and 800kg payload in the USA).

I can see it appeal to existing Wrangler owners that like the concept, quirkinesses and off road ability but want a higher towing capacity and more space (normal Wrangler has pathetic load space).

Or someone in the market for a Ute that is actually decent off road without a throw back to the 1980s in ride quality, handling, performance, ergonomics and equipment levels of the 70 series.

Considering the current crop of high end Thai specials (Ranger Raptor excluded, by most accounts) are seriously over priced but don’t excel in any aspect, it is no surprise Jeep have tried to cash in on this overpriced emotionally driven segment.

Disappointing it won’t be sold here with the V6 diesel, or Jeep couldn’t offer the Rubicon with the Hemi V8.

Let’s just say that the sales numbers for gladiator has been a little underwhelming, Gladiator was all about giving Jeep buyers what
they were asking for but now Jeep seems to be developing the
Gladiator Mojave as a counterpoint for a future US Ranger Raptor.