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Also, I think they've spread themselves too thin trying to do cars and autonomous technology at the same time. The market isn't asking for it and regulations are still so far behind that if you have the tech, they're making it illegal (as they have in Europe; they've hobbled the Auto pilot system). They should focus on the Chinese factory and get the Model Y out ahead of schedule. Better profit margins there and the bigger factory should help with demand (that I'm sure the Model Y could achieve). Make Superchargers available to any electric car customer with a tap style payment system especially with the CCS2 rollout. Easy money for them. Crazy that they leave money on the table. Bring back programs like free Supercharging for existing owners to get them to upgrade. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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All Supercharging has been paid for over a year now on all new cars. They ended free Supercharging for the life of the car a couple of years ago. With my car, I get it for as long as I own it. Once I sell the car, it doesn't transfer. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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Starting a major car company is very difficult and expensive which is why only 3 major car companies existed in America the biggest economy in the world. Lets not forget they needed bailouts and government intervention loans etc to survive. Their stock prices have also performed horribly and they laying off many workers now. Trumps Mexico tariffs are going to hurt GM and Ford.
Tesla expands so fast that the stock and profitability is always going to be long term game. 2019 is difficult year but 2020 with the Shanghai factory and model Y released the company should be in a much better position. |
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However they are following the Amazon, Uber, Netflix playbook, expand and invest rapid fast and worry about profits later, which is much riskier and capital intensive but higher potential rewards later. |
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Tesla Whistleblower Attorney Says "I Would Short Tesla Based On What I Know"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ed-what-i-know Hmm 🤔 |
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And then there is this, Norway is Unamused with Tesla
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...unamused-tesla I guess it hasn’t quite worked out to plan (presuming Musk did have a plan) Read through the dot points, IMO this is a company teetering on the edge. Last edited by cheap; 04-06-2019 at 10:25 PM. |
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There is nothing to service on these cars in the schedule expect brake fluid and coolant, every 2 and 4 years. Model 3 has a longer schedule. Can't see that being a big issue in such a small population. Storm in a teacup? Though in Sydney, you need to book over a month in advance for a service. Under resourced big time. Lucky the Model 3 service schedule is almost non existent compared to the Model S/X Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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Again, which is it? Is Musk a source of truth or not?
That tweet was from July 2018, almost a year ago! The article is also from July 2018! Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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I see VicPol has gone the Tesla way and predicts their fleet will be all electric within 10 years. |
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I think these are throwaway lines by corporations, esp govt ones, to appease the masses.
the problem is, electricity production itself is looking to go renewable in most states and electric vehicles is only going to increase the load on an already struggling grid. I don't see too much in the way of infrastructure being built to future proof against the rise of the electric car.
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They may very well be buying EVs within 10 years but their fleet won't be all electric. |
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Tesla share price actually went up today - broke a week long loss scenario (there you go my positive Tesla news for this week 😀) |
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Just because Tesla gave them one, probably for free or dirt cheap, doesn't mean they will be buying a whole fleet of them. |
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Tesla's for highway patrol use - what could possibly go wrong?
"car 19 disengaging from pursuit - battery nearly depleted, will proceed to the local charge point and resume pursuit in 3-4 hours time after the battery is sufficiently replenished..." |
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While the suspects escape on a motorised esky.
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the only difference is that electric cars presently take longer to be 'full' again. I imagine they'll swap over cars mid shift, at lunch or dinner time, for one that's fully charged. Really not that difficult to manage, plus the fuel cost saving by using electric cars will be incredible |
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Hey better still why not have the Tesla highway patrol cars tow a trailer full of batteries or a trailer with a diesel powered genset so as to extend their range but which can be jettisoned during pursuit time - what do you think? |
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I thought I would get in before kmav does (only kidding kmav)...
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The kind of person who talks about "buying some art".
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I explained the difference and similarities between electric and the current petrol or diesel powered cars. For metro use I see no issues, regional yes perhaps may take longer to roll out but improvements in battery power and recharge times will likely make that a non issue in no time |
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https://electrek.co/2018/12/02/tesla...olice-vehicle/
Watch a Tesla Model X becoming a police vehicle Tesla vehicles are becoming increasingly popular with police departments around the world and now a fleet of Tesla Model X electric SUVs is being converted to patrol vehicles in Switzerland. It can raise some eyebrows when a police service buys a ~$100,000 vehicle as a cruiser, but the Basel police department says that it is actually buying Model Xs to save money. Earlier this year, they announced that they are replacing 7 diesel cruisers with 7 Tesla Model X 100Ds. The police said that the vehicles end up each costing about 49,000 Francs more than their usual diesel cruiser, but they expect that the Tesla vehicles will be better long-term investments due to “significantly lower costs for operation and maintenance and a higher resale value.” They have now received the vehicles and they have been preparing them to soon go into operation. In the pictures, you can see the extent of the modifications needed to install those police lights and other accessories. Some of the Model X 100D SUVs are already ready and about half the fleet is going on the road as soon as next week. They released a quick video that should give you an idea of what it would be like seeing the MOdel X in your rearview mirror: The Basel-Stadt canton police are deploying the biggest fleet of Tesla vehicles for police patrol vehicles that we have seen to date, but they are not the only ones working on going electric and especially using Tesla vehicles. Tesla vehicles are becoming strangely popular with police departments all over the world. In the US, the Los Angeles Police Department and the Denver Police Department are both using Model S sedans as part of their fleets. In Europe, Scotland Yard says that it is considering the vehicle and the Luxembourg Police converted two Model S sedans to patrol cars. The Ontario Police also recently received a brand new Model X, which they also converted to a police vehicle. |
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A Model X has up to 500km range, this is enough for one police shift.
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