driving interstate

turbo_man · 09-08-2009, 01:51 PM

im driving from sydney to melbourne this week and i currently have my L's (fantastic hours) and in vic im pretty sure theres no 80 rule for learners when so when i cross the border will i be able to go up to the speed limit or still stick to 80? from what i heard ill be allowed to go 110 when in vic because im in their state and so their laws apply.
when in rome do what the romans do?

Donut King · 09-08-2009, 02:10 PM

nope you must comply with the conditions of your licence, which means your max is still 80 km/h...

I'm not sying that thats what people do, but thats what they are supposed to do

Linkachu · 09-08-2009, 02:23 PM

Donut is correct. You must abide by your states licence conditions.

paule11 · 09-08-2009, 02:26 PM

80 how horrible that must be peolpe stuck behind you ,you would have to pull over every 5 minutes to let people pass

quirdan · 09-08-2009, 02:34 PM

Seems kind of dangerous at 80. Far easier to fall asleep, further fatigues you by adding 3 hours to the trip time, and can irritate less patient motorists where dual carriage way does not exist and encourage unsafe overtaking.

Never quite understood the 80 rule. You're going to get people flying past at 120km/h at least on the NSW side. How is that supposed to be safer or a good learning experience?

InTrail · 09-08-2009, 02:37 PM

80kmh on the Hume. That's more of a safety hindrance than moving at the same speed as the rest of the traffic flow.

500SEC · 09-08-2009, 03:12 PM

Isn't most of the Hume limited to 80km/h anyway?? Esp on the NSW side.

fullysik.com · 09-08-2009, 03:33 PM

Lots of roadworks at the mo, so 80K won't cause any concern there, dual carriage way most of the rest of the way, very few single lane 100K areas, I don't see a problem, keep your eye in the rear view and have fun

EDManual · 09-08-2009, 03:34 PM

the safest place to do 110 and you cant do it.

70 down parramatta rd in peak hour is surely safer (sarcastic) than doing 110 on the hume!! What a joke.

XR6_190 · 09-08-2009, 03:51 PM

I would suggest that you would need to stick to the rules of the permit you hold, regardless of what state/ territory you are in. That said, that 80km/h rule is a joke, so what, they say you need to practice in all conditions, rain, night, sunrise/set but oh no, you can't do the limit in the freeways? What a joke.

malazn mafia · 09-08-2009, 04:00 PM

Avoid the major roads and take the back country roads, and you can go 80km/h without annoying anyone, and enjoy the scenery too...

BuckTooth · 09-08-2009, 04:16 PM

This is a very grey area. I'm not long off my P's and my younger siblings have just gotten off their L's. Apparently the legal is that you are required to abide by the laws of the state your are in. In Vic that means doing the state speed limit. Best bet is just phone vic roads or the rta to double check.

wodahs · 09-08-2009, 04:19 PM

is a learners permit like a license that is reconised aust wide ??

Tobey · 09-08-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wodahs

is a learners permit like a license that is reconised aust wide ??

Learners permit is not a permit. Its a license. The same as a full license or provisional license.

You must adhear to your state laws where the license is issued.

Do us all a favour, stay of the single lane 100km roads...

BPXR6T · 09-08-2009, 05:39 PM

Take a plane instead.

Trevor 57 · 09-08-2009, 05:42 PM

I can guarentee that when in Victoria, do as the Victorian do.

When driving in Victoria you are required to drive to Victorian law.

This means that as an L Plater you can do 100km/h, and 110 on the freeways.

The people above are wrong if they tell you differently. I have been a driver trainer for over 20 years.

There is no legal requirement for you to do 80km/h in Victoria, they can't book you for exceeding that as there is no law in Victoria that dictates that you must comply with 80 km/h whilst on L Plates.

All the licence requirements stuff is boloney, it does not apply, people can bleat on about it all they want, just ring Vicroads and they will tell you that I am right.

Trevor 57 · 09-08-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XRF44D

This is a very grey area. I'm not long off my P's and my younger siblings have just gotten off their L's. Apparently the legal is that you are required to abide by the laws of the state your are in. In Vic that means doing the state speed limit. Best bet is just phone vic roads or the rta to double check.

No grey area about it, see my post above, when in Victoria do as Victorian law states, when in NSW do as NSW law states, it is quite simple really.

Victorian Police do NOT have the authority to book you for breaking NSW road law whilst you are in Victoria, other law maybe, like murder, but even then it is by extradition.

People really shouldn't comment unless they know this stuff for fact and I do.

**Silver Ghia** · 09-08-2009, 06:17 PM

Sounds very logical what Big Trev said.

However I think you should be very careful driving long hours continuously if you are on learners and haven't driven much. The concentration level would be very high, and any lapse can be disastrous, especially if something unexpected comes up suddenly. I think thats one reason for many P-platers coming to grief, going for long drives soon after gaining their licence.

Teflon Turbo · 09-08-2009, 06:22 PM

big trev is correct.

Cappy_Hamper · 09-08-2009, 06:59 PM

If its a condition of the permit then it would not matter what state the driver is in.

Teflon Turbo · 09-08-2009, 07:20 PM

he could get fined for driving too slow in victoria and get fined for speeding in victoria via nsw therefore losing points on nsw licence while paying victorian fines then paying nsw for fines issued in vic unless he didnt pay those vic fines then victoria wouldn't chase him for them then rta cant make him lose points in nsw in which case he has no case to answer unless ofcourse an nsw copper pulls him over in victoria but then the vic cops will pull over the nsw cops and a punch on (vic cops would win) would happen over where the fine money goes and then undebelly 10 would have been released.

does all that make sense?

:togo:

boss 300 · 09-08-2009, 07:33 PM

i believe the you learn nothing on the hwy,(most of us can drive in a strait line) stay in town and learn better driving technique
cheers tony

GS608 · 09-08-2009, 07:53 PM

what about going the other way?
i heard that when i drove down to the tweed boarder i have to stick to a max of 90 (on red p's) but i've driven at the limit and past cops never been pulled up.

seems a bit grey, QLD p-platers wouldn't know NSW p plater laws, therefore would drive the limit.

Trevor 57 · 09-08-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cappy_Hamper

If its a condition of the permit then it would not matter what state the driver is in.

Explain to me how a Victorian Policeman can book someone for breaches to a non Victorian issued licence. I bet you can't, because they can't.

VicPol do NOT have the authority, they are not NSW Police, so they do NOT have the authority under legislation to enforce NSW law, if they did, then all State Police are redundant and we would be covered by Federal Road Law which we aren't. We have National Road 'Rules', but these are enacted by each State.

Sorry you are wrong.

Teflon Turbo · 09-08-2009, 08:11 PM

further more he wouldn't breaking any victorian law and the matter goes no further than that!

Trevor 57 · 09-08-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Teflon Turbo

he could get fined for driving too slow in victoria

Firstly you cannot get fined for 'driving too slowly'

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Originally Posted by Teflon Turbo

and get fined for speeding in victoria via nsw

Impossible to happen

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Originally Posted by Teflon Turbo

therefore losing points on nsw licence while paying victorian fines then paying nsw for fines issued in vic unless he didnt pay those vic fines then victoria wouldn't chase him for them then rta cant make him lose points in nsw in which case he has no case to answer unless ofcourse an nsw copper pulls him over in victoria but then the vic cops will pull over the nsw cops and a punch on (vic cops would win) would happen over where the fine money goes and then undebelly 10 would have been released.

does all that make sense?

Silly man :togo:

Trevor 57 · 09-08-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Teflon Turbo

further more he wouldn't breaking any victorian law and the matter goes no further than that!

Exactly right, there is no breach of Victorian law - simple

Trevor 57 · 09-08-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by XR-CHIEF

what about going the other way?
i heard that when i drove down to the tweed boarder i have to stick to a max of 90 (on red p's) but i've driven at the limit and past cops never been pulled up.

seems a bit grey, QLD p-platers wouldn't know NSW p plater laws, therefore would drive the limit.

The onus is on the person driving in whatever State to be familiar with all the raod laws, ignorance is no excuse. The Police will generally be a little more lenient if you are from interstate, but they don't have to be. Insterstate truck/bus drivers put up with this stuff all the time.

GS608 · 09-08-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Trev

The onus is on the person driving in whatever State to be familiar with all the raod laws, ignorance is no excuse. The Police will generally be a little more lenient if you are from interstate, but they don't have to be. Insterstate truck/bus drivers put up with this stuff all the time.

cheers trev, will stick to 90 from now on, don't need another ticket lol

turbo_man · 10-08-2009, 05:28 PM

thanks guys yeah its a bit confusing having people say one thing and other people saying the opposite but im pretty sure its in victoria do what the victorians do but ill phone up vic roads just in case cus i have no demerit points and driving from melbourne to sydney is gonna get me great hours

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