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Old 30-03-2016, 07:51 PM   #151
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Default Re: Qld revenue camersa tolerance to drop to 3 kph

There will never be zero accidents, a accident is just that by definition be it human, machine or even god. The mathematics of the amount of cars and scenarios out there , 400 fatalities or so is really quiet low in the grand scheme of it all. Would we like it at zero ?yes, would we live in a bubble probably not, life is a risk deal with it.
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Old 30-03-2016, 09:02 PM   #152
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My late father didn't speed either.

Yet while on a road trip he was in Victoria, driving from Geelong to Melbourne sitting on 100km/h because he doesn't speed.
On returning home he opens the mail and lo and behold there's a fine in the mail. A speed camera caught him breaking the law doing a whole 103km/h.

My father had no need to lie to me...he was adamant he was doing 100. So I did a little investigating, using my GPS I took his Volvo out onto the highway sat it smack on 100 with cruise enabled and the GPS was showing 103.

If a $120,000 car can't read speed reliably where does that leave us?

Afterall this thread is about dropping tolerances to 3km/h is it not?

I drive in the NT on occasion, I find it's actually quite rare to see people sitting on the 130 limit, let alone pushing hard in the unlimited zones.
get it tested by a speedo expert, send the report in with the fine and ask for a dismissal
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Old 30-03-2016, 09:17 PM   #153
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get it tested by a speedo expert, send the report in with the fine and ask for a dismissal
Get the fine cleared. Then thet will defect the car lol
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Old 30-03-2016, 09:40 PM   #154
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They won't defect the car. It is within tolerance.
The manufacturing tolerances are different to the policing tolerances.
Makes me wonder why no-one has taken them to court over it.
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Old 30-03-2016, 09:42 PM   #155
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They won't defect the car. It is within tolerance.
The manufacturing tolerances are different to the policing tolerances.
Makes me wonder why no-one has taken them to court over it.
Did yoy mis the "lol"
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:10 PM   #156
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100% wont work. Registration plates are reflective. Paper print outs arent.
I can buy polyester paper, same base as Cibachrome which is highly reflective..

but I'm not saying this is something to do to scam the system, I was suggesting it shows the policing system of using cameras is flawed
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:41 PM   #157
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"Assistant Commissioner Keating said no jurisdiction in Australia, or to his knowledge anywhere in the world, published or spoke publicly about what the limits of the actual limits of their tolerance were."

He didn't look very hard (or maybe Mr Keating is just a liar) - in New Zealand, the published tolerances are 110km/h for the 100km/h national limit, dropping to 104km/h on public holiday periods. The cops dropped it to no tolerance over Xmas 2014 and there was an uproar, even the pollies were calling them on it. They have quietly gone back to the status quo.
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Old 06-04-2016, 01:54 AM   #158
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A 3km tolerance on a speed camera is unjust. Regardless of your driving patterns. As stated many times in this post. It is just a subversive way to increase revenue. It would be far more equitable, and palatable, to have speed tolerances in line with OEM tolerances, but not under them.








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