Hsv Announces 6.2 L Ls3 317 Kw

TSERIES · 01-04-2008, 01:22 PM

hsv have announced ls3 engine 6.2 , 317 kw will be in all hsv models as of april .....whats fpv doing dragging there feet ? have we been givin the kw for the gt model yet from fpv ? i know rumour is 315 but has this been confirmed by fpv ?

gtfpv · 01-04-2008, 01:26 PM

i'm not the slightest bit concerned . cause the little 5.4 is going to fry its 6.2 kw's arrrrssse.

tex · 01-04-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xw gtho phase 2

hsv have announced ls3 engine 6.2 , 317 kw will be in all hsv models as of april .....whats fpv doing dragging there feet ? have we been givin the kw for the gt model yet from fpv ? i know rumour is 315 but has this been confirmed by fpv ?

Oh dear, that's simply disasterous..

Had better trade in my uncollected 302 on the monster 317kw HSV.

Do people really give a crap about that? Jesus, insecurity must be a curse.

TSERIES · 01-04-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tex

Oh dear, that's simply disasterous..

Had better trade in my uncollected 302 on the monster 317kw HSV.

Do people really give a crap about that? Jesus, insecurity must be a curse.

not insecruity mate its called hsv leading the way again ....like to see what happens when u pull up at the lights with the 317 kw monster next to you in your 302 cobra u will be to gutless to give him a go in fear u will look like a idiot ...facts a facts mate im pretty sure hsv ls3 will make lunch duties out of the 315 kw 5.4 too we will wait n see im sure modern motor and the like will have there reviews in within the next 6 mths on both cars .

gtfpv · 01-04-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xw gtho phase 2

not insecruity mate its called hsv leading the way again ....like to see what happens when u pull up at the lights with the 317 kw monster next to you in your 302 cobra u will be to gutless to give him a go in fear u will look like a idiot ...facts a facts mate im pretty sure hsv ls3 will make lunch duties out of the 315 kw 5.4 too we will wait n see im sure modern motor and the like will have there reviews in within the next 6 mths on both cars .

SAYS WHO ????? MARKETING MAGAZINES . WHO TAKE $$$$$ OFF MARKETEERS. . OR YOU ??? WHO ARE YOU TO KNOW ????

Rock ape · 01-04-2008, 01:52 PM

I give a crap. Im sick of the Ford V8s getting flogged year after year.

mcnews · 01-04-2008, 01:53 PM

Me too. If I was after a V8 then there is no question I would buy a Holden/HSV product until Ford up their game.

gtfpv · 01-04-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BAGTp001

I give a crap. Im sick of the Ford V8s getting flogged year after year.

UNTRUE !!!!

TSERIES · 01-04-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

Me too. If I was after a V8 then there is no question I would buy a Holden/HSV product until Ford up their game.

If i was after a preformance car in the fpv range it would not be a laughable fpv gt it would be the turbo 6 it is clearly there leader ...

TSERIES · 01-04-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BAGTp001

I give a crap. Im sick of the Ford V8s getting flogged year after year.

someone who is not in denial good on ya your speaking the truth ....

TSERIES · 01-04-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

SAYS WHO ????? MARKETING MAGAZINES . WHO TAKE $$$$$ OFF MARKETEERS. . OR YOU ??? WHO ARE YOU TO KNOW ????

not sure about the marketing consiracy LOL
but i do know a bit about both cars
have currently got a ve hsv R8 307 quite a pleasure making the cobra 302 look stupidly slow

have owned 2 pursuit utes both 290's oh dear glad i woke up and bought
a new maloo 317kw
luv the typhoons and tornado's fpv's only true preformance car ...

gtfpv · 01-04-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xw gtho phase 2

If i was after a preformance car in the fpv range it would not be a laughable fpv gt it would be the turbo 6 it is clearly there leader ...

IF I HAD 1/2 A BRAIN . I WOULDN'T BE PRE JUDGING A CAR THAT HAS'NT BEEN released yet. but that's a story for the bar.

gtfpv · 01-04-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xw gtho phase 2

not sure about the marketing consiracy LOL
but i do know a bit about both cars
have currently got a ve hsv R8 307 quite a pleasure making the cobra 302 look stupidly slow

have owned 2 pursuit utes both 290's oh dear glad i woke up and bought
a new maloo 317kw
luv the typhoons and tornado's fpv's only true preformance car ...

on that basis . i respect your veiws , because they are hands on .
still irrelivant to comment on a pre new car.
also i'm not suere i agree on your statements about your cars , but that is my veiw , your entitled to yours .
we all know about the F6 , NONE OF US DISPUTE IT . but at the fpv drive days . the f6's arent that much ahead of the V8's.

tex · 01-04-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xw gtho phase 2

not insecruity mate its called hsv leading the way again ....like to see what happens when u pull up at the lights with the 317 kw monster next to you in your 302 cobra u will be to gutless to give him a go in fear u will look like a idiot ...facts a facts mate im pretty sure hsv ls3 will make lunch duties out of the 315 kw 5.4 too we will wait n see im sure modern motor and the like will have there reviews in within the next 6 mths on both cars .

That's sad.

Go buy the HSV if quoted pwr output means that much to you.

Gutless????????????????????

If I was, Id have put my money in HSV's hands.

Grow up.

tex · 01-04-2008, 02:12 PM

My bad, see you have brought the HSV.

Must be good to tell others how big your dlck is.

I buy for more than pwr, it's called the overall package.

WOTDAH · 01-04-2008, 02:14 PM

You will be suprised with the performance of the FG GT...

Rock ape · 01-04-2008, 02:24 PM

If it can beat a VE SS i will be surprised (and happy)

Wretched · 01-04-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

SAYS WHO ????? MARKETING MAGAZINES . WHO TAKE $$$$$ OFF MARKETEERS. . OR YOU ??? WHO ARE YOU TO KNOW ????

Remove the tin foil hat and see the light of common sense and rational thinking.
The Ford V8 has nothing on the Holden/HSV v8's.
There is no conspiracy, just the cold hard truth.

daniel_rossy · 01-04-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xw gtho phase 2

not insecruity mate its called hsv leading the way again ....like to see what happens when u pull up at the lights with the 317 kw monster next to you in your 302 cobra u will be to gutless to give him a go in fear u will look like a idiot ...facts a facts mate im pretty sure hsv ls3 will make lunch duties out of the 315 kw 5.4 too we will wait n see im sure modern motor and the like will have there reviews in within the next 6 mths on both cars .

Agreed. Down on paper, its a whole 13kw's at the flywheel difference. But really, 15kw's isnt noticable from a engine that already produces 300kw's.
i find it sad how these days a honda accord has more power than a VR HSV. They have to stop somewhere. So no, ford isnt loosing becasuse we all know our 5.4's can keep up with the 6.0's quite well. Watch out holden when the 290kw XR8 comes out to play

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ea90gl · 01-04-2008, 02:47 PM

We'll you have to give credit to the fact a 5.4 is pumping out marginally less than a 6.2 in standard trim but at the same time I'm sure we'd all love to see a bit more from ford, yes we know they have limited resources but look what goes on with the 5.4 in the states, Im sure a factory 320-330 would be relatively easy AND would sure embarrass the guys at HSV

mcnews · 01-04-2008, 02:52 PM

The new hero car will be the FG F6 from what I am hearing. Smaller turbo in the new model yes but running a lot more boost than we have seen before should make it the performance king and perhaps even best the 7 litre Holden when it hits the market.

F6 R-Spec · 01-04-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

Remove the tin foil hat and see the light of common sense and rational thinking.
The Ford V8 has nothing on the Holden/HSV v8's.
There is no conspiracy, just the cold hard truth.

Who is the one not thinking straight?
A 6.2l compared to a 5.4l
C'mon mate.

Gm's ls3 is a little bit better, but not that far ahead.

Josh_XC · 01-04-2008, 03:13 PM

For me it seems like HSV are trying to catch FPV. Its widley known that the 302 boss is more like 315 or there abouts. The 302 is way way understated and im sure all 302 boss owners would agree. For me this is no news but HSV trying to catch up t0 the mightly 302 boss

King Nothing · 01-04-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PURSUIT-250

Who is the one not thinking straight?
A 6.2l compared to a 5.4l
C'mon mate.

Gm's ls3 is a little bit better, but not that far ahead.

Engine capacity isn't the point here. If you want a big rwd v8, you either get a xr8/gt or ssv/HSV. So yes, you can compare them as they are targeting the same market.

If you want to get technical then yes, the 5.4 isn't that far behind. But it IS behind. Whether that's due to displacement or technology doesn't matter. Doesn't matter that its only 15kw/fractions of a section difference, in the public perception its a quicker (therefore "better") car.

fmc351 · 01-04-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xw gtho phase 2

not insecruity mate its called hsv leading the way again ....like to see what happens when u pull up at the lights with the 317 kw monster next to you in your 302 cobra u will be to gutless to give him a go in fear u will look like a idiot ...

So the guy who doesnt race on the street looks like an idiot?

Im betting youre the delusional type who thinks anyone who wont race them must feel your car is superior, and Im sure thats exactly what you tell everyone as you fail to notice their eyes glaze over.

LeadFoot81 · 01-04-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xw gtho phase 2

not insecruity mate its called hsv leading the way again ....like to see what happens when u pull up at the lights with the 317 kw monster next to you in your 302 cobra u will be to gutless to give him a go in fear u will look like a idiot ...facts a facts mate im pretty sure hsv ls3 will make lunch duties out of the 315 kw 5.4 too we will wait n see im sure modern motor and the like will have there reviews in within the next 6 mths on both cars .

lol hes going to be afraid to give them a go?

theres a lot more to life than draggin c***s at the lights.

WOTDAH · 01-04-2008, 03:52 PM

Can someone tell me how Holden are ahead? FG GT 320 kw, LS3 317 kw. Looks to me the Ford are ahead by an earth shattering 3kw.

F6 R-Spec · 01-04-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by King Nothing

Engine capacity isn't the point here. If you want a big rwd v8, you either get a xr8/gt or ssv/HSV. So yes, you can compare them as they are targeting the same market.

If you want to get technical then yes, the 5.4 isn't that far behind. But it IS behind. Whether that's due to displacement or technology doesn't matter. Doesn't matter that its only 15kw/fractions of a section difference, in the public perception its a quicker (therefore "better") car.

Yes we know HSV has that bit better V8, 6.2L it's not something you can ignore comparing it to a 5.4L. No substitute for cubes they say, it is and will always be.
I dont only compare KW's and how Quik the cars are, i look at it all cubes, drivability, stopping the lot.

FPV had it over HSV with there F6, and will continue to have it over them with the FG ( IMO ).

Cheers mick.

Grechie · 01-04-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WOTDAH

Can someone tell me how Holden are ahead? FG GT 320 kw, LS3 317 kw. Looks to me the Ford are ahead by an earth shattering 3kw.

is that confirmed ? 320 for the GT?

mcnews · 01-04-2008, 04:17 PM

It's not the peak that is the issue for anyone with half a brain. It is the mumbo off the bottom and in the middle. This is where the Boss is anaemic, it pulls wonderfully up top, nobody is dipsuting that. But pulling well in the last couple of thousand rpm is not what makes for a great motor. If the F6 only pulled hard from 4000 up hardly anyone would buy one.