Raging Rhino XYGT @ WSID! - Page 3

HP-0351 · 15-08-2011, 06:02 PM

nice work

XT302 · 08-09-2011, 08:12 AM

10.704@128.77mph at yesterdays test and tune.... ALL by a owner built 393 with dual plane airgap fitted

XT302 · 09-09-2011, 11:02 AM

THE CADBURY KID · 10-09-2011, 11:21 PM

My mate run a 11.7 in his xd with a 550 fwhp 393, his is auto though.
Maybe your motor makes more than 500 hp

XT302 · 11-09-2011, 10:01 AM

It has been engined dynoed, made a tad more than 500

I say a GREAT effort considering it has a dual plane airgap fitted

THE CADBURY KID · 12-09-2011, 02:15 PM

that question was meant for the op.

XT302 · 03-10-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by THE CADBURY KID

that question was meant for the op.

I understand who your post was aimed at, I was assisting your argument in a round about way, no harm intended to either just getting involved in the discussion.

PS: TO RECAP ON THREAD (SAVES ANYONE READING IT ALL, ALTHOUTH IT DOES MAKE FOR SOME GOOD READING)THE OP IS NOT THE OWNER AND HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH CARS CURRENT PERFORMANCE, THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE SINCE THE ORIGINAL ENGINE GRENADED.

BOTTLEDUP · 10-10-2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by THE CADBURY KID

My mate run a 11.7 in his xd with a 550 fwhp 393, his is auto though.
Maybe your motor makes more than 500 hp

What mph? If its a genuine 550 flywheel HP it should be running 11 flat or better in an XD... On slicks of course.

Great effort for a dual plane 2V Clevo, manual too!

xdclevo · 10-10-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by THE CADBURY KID

My mate run a 11.7 in his xd with a 550 fwhp 393, his is auto though.
Maybe your motor makes more than 500 hp

Yep, your mate is missing near a second off his ET.
Mine is in the 550HP region and runs 10.7's in an XD full weight.
Good old 2V power but. haha

Stefan · 15-11-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XT302

PS: TO RECAP ON THREAD (SAVES ANYONE READING IT ALL, ALTHOUTH IT DOES MAKE FOR SOME GOOD READING)THE OP IS NOT THE OWNER AND HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH CARS CURRENT PERFORMANCE, THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE SINCE THE ORIGINAL ENGINE GRENADED.

Is it not the exact same engine combo as put together by the OP, just rebuilt by the owner? What has been changed?

The owner told me last time I saw him at the track that it was still the same combo that Steve put together. Seems like a real nice genuine bloke so I'm certain he wouldnt lie to me.

XT302 · 16-11-2011, 06:59 AM

You are correct owner is a nice guy and I am pretty sure he wouldn't lie.

BUT like the OP he may not tell you everything...

I can say this if it was the exact same as when OP built it, shouldn't it have blown up after a few thousand kms an still be running 11.5@122 not what it is now?

Stefan · 16-11-2011, 09:57 PM

OK, the engine using mostly the same parts, still makes the same power ie 500 odd horsepower. Must be a coincidence I guess.

You don't thing going from 3.25s to 3.9s, fitting a jerrico and practice would make any difference in the ET?

Anyway runs real nice, well done to Ante..

XT302 · 16-11-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

OK, the engine using mostly the same parts, still makes the same power ie 500 odd horsepower. Must be a coincidence I guess.

You don't thing going from 3.25s to 3.9s, fitting a jerrico and practice would make any difference in the ET?

Anyway runs real nice, well done to Ante..

NOW it is MOSTLY same parts?....there are some photos that indicate PLENTY of different parts were needed due to the catastrophic grenading of the OP built engine

As for 500 odd horsepower engine dyno says your odd is a BIG number, also now there is a difference in RWHP...

3.25 to 3.9 was a difference, some agree different gearboxes use up different amounts of power there was a difference in gearbox change, so for those two changes and the practice there was a ET and MPH difference.

So what is the theory of the multiple increases in MPH?

There would be some that would agree increase in MPH is generally a indicator of a increase in HP?

dieseltrain79 · 16-11-2011, 10:36 PM

Also Box probably sucking up less power so getting more to the ground .

You can have a 500hp engine using different gearboxes getting different power to the grounds due to each one sucking up " X " amount of HP doing so .

XT302 · 16-11-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseltrain79

Also Box probably sucking up less power so getting more to the ground .

You can have a 500hp engine using different gearboxes getting different power to the grounds due to each one sucking up " X " amount of HP doing so .

So the first time back at track with the new box shows the difference the Jericho made (gears had already been changed) there was increase but from a number of runs very consistent, if you watch this car both car and driver are SUPER CONSISTENT. So changes to vehicle can be easily guaged.

Where does all the other multiple increases in MPH come from? not being smart, as I know where they have come from, just going back to the original question by Stefan
"Is it not the exact same engine combo as put together by the OP, just rebuilt by the owner"

XT302 · 16-11-2011, 10:49 PM

Can anyone tell me a car that weighs 1595kgs what kind of HP is needed for 122mph and 128.77mph?

Thanks

Stefan · 16-11-2011, 11:28 PM

Well you're the guy that said it still has 500HP a few posts ago, does it or doesn't it? Either you don't actually know or you're spinning BS.

I'm sure you can find a drag racing calculator on the net and can punch in some numbers.

I'll leave you to it, obviously no point having a discussion with someone that is unable to contribute anything factual.

XT302 · 17-11-2011, 07:20 AM

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It has been engined dynoed, made a tad more than 500

( and since that post rw dynoed)

Above is what I actually said.... Hasn't changed

You are right to a certain extent though, It's not my place to share any facts with you. I was just enjoying the discussion.

Anyway why you getting so upset, when the op said 500ish there was non of this hostility, hence my question about the HP then and now

Stefan · 17-11-2011, 08:25 AM

Sweet, no hostility mate, just working it out.

XT302 · 21-12-2011, 09:14 PM

Just now new ET PB 10.703 , you little beauty

HP-0351 · 27-12-2011, 06:55 PM

That's a quick manually shifted genuine GT

protd · 27-12-2011, 07:15 PM

how much rwhp did it make on the dyno?? or is it all top secret? i'm sure telling the hp of the motor aint giving any secret info away..

my mates xf runs 128mph with 410rwhp on street radials

protd · 27-12-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XT302

10.704@128.77mph at yesterdays test and tune.... ALL by a owner built 393 with dual plane airgap fitted

is this car running a different engine again?

in the first page the owner says its a pavtek 393 gold stroker with 3v heads and duel plane intake, i'm a bit confussed is it the pavtek engine or a new owner built engine?? sorry if i missed something just trying to work out whats going on here..

HP-0351 · 27-12-2011, 07:39 PM

Don't know about the XY Lee re HP.

I know this Genuine GT run 10.51@129.98mph through a 4 spd on its first and only pass as it wasn't fitted with a cage and was asked to leave.

Full weight car incl AC, Sunroof and PS was functional during the pass lol. Thought it was tough and sorry for off topic.

http://cacklingpipes.com/081010_wsid...y01008_133.JPG

HEMI POWER · 27-12-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HP-0351

Don't know about the XY but I know this Genuine GT run 10.51@129.98mph through a 4 spd on its first and only pass as it wasn't fitted with a cage and was asked to leave.

Full weight car incl AC, Sunroof and PS was functional during the pass lol

http://cacklingpipes.com/081010_wsid...y01008_133.JPG

Love it.Nice looking car that.

XT302 · 27-12-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HP-0351

Don't know about the XY Lee re HP.

I know this Genuine GT run 10.51@129.98mph through a 4 spd on its first and only pass as it wasn't fitted with a cage and was asked to leave.

Full weight car incl AC, Sunroof and PS was functional during the pass lol. Thought it was tough and sorry for off topic.

http://cacklingpipes.com/081010_wsid...y01008_133.JPG

Help you with the facts, 10.56@129.9mph and far from being it's first pass and if I find the photos of the engine on that pass no a/c etc fitted. TAKING NOTHING away from Adam XBGT, ran HARD/FAST

many a time prior to this fitted as Roy as stated ac etc, but for this pass was set up to move

http://www.falcongtclubnsw.com/forum...php?f=1&t=5151

For those that cannot see the above llink a copy of what I posted/thread started at the time

"For those that don't know Adam (Detroit Customs) ran a 10.56@129.9mph XBGT four door, with sunroof on Friday night through a manual, although not a toploader as that called it quits at the WSID drag day still HUGELY IMPRESSIVE.

Possibly could have gone faster with clutch adjustment, BUT were kindly asked to leave WSID as car had no cage etc.

Although ET droppped there was not much of an improvement anywhere else ( I think it actaully 60ft quicker and mph higher with toppie) but Adam and Sash can correct me if I am wrong.

Anyway BIG CONGRATULATIONS to Adam and Sash and team from ANRACING.

JOB WELL DONE"

What you Roy posted at the time

"427ci small block

alloy heads ( i think they are Edelbrocks...cant remember at the moment)

11:1 comp

roller cam

Jericho box

4.88 gears

546hp at the rear wheels...i have seen the dyno sheet

full weight car with full trim, no glass panels etc

awesome effort by Sash from AN Racing"

Andreas correcting your post

"CHI 3V's, TFC, 950 HP!

Awsum!"

THE MACHINE, sadly been reported stolen

http://www.wolfpac.com.au/adam.htm

XT302 · 27-12-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by protd

is this car running a different engine again?

in the first page the owner says its a pavtek 393 gold stroker with 3v heads and duel plane intake, i'm a bit confussed is it the pavtek engine or a new owner built engine?? sorry if i missed something just trying to work out whats going on here..

Car has had 3 engines Lee

No1 engine built by OP grenaded No2 engine sourced from PAVTEK (still owned just occupying garage floor space )then the current engine was built by owner and has run what it has to date.

XT302 · 27-12-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by protd

how much rwhp did it make on the dyno?? or is it all top secret? i'm sure telling the hp of the motor aint giving any secret info away..

my mates xf runs 128mph with 410rwhp on street radials

To be honest I don't recall, was run up mainly to check fuel mixtures, luckily now a easier method is engaged for this.

XF auto? STOUT mph.

protd · 27-12-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by XT302

Car has had 3 engines Lee

No1 engine built by OP grenaded No2 engine sourced from PAVTEK (still owned just occupying garage floor space )then the current engine was built by owner and has run what it has to date.

thanks clears it up for me, i read topic 3 times and thought i was going mad

XT302 · 27-12-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by protd

thanks clears it up for me, i read topic 3 times and thought i was going mad

I am looking forward to some updates on the XR, ps either AVIS (as you suggested) or straight white tinter gets my vote.