2008 Falcon Spyshots Good ones time time - Page 3

**Fordman1** · 05-05-2007, 08:43 AM

No I think they're Orion Proto's (full body & drive train). There have been some posts here which indicate Ford have built a batch of them early this year for testing.

JBomb3000 · 05-05-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by v8motormouth

has anyone thought we might be looking in the wrong place? Ford usually puts all next-gen parts in 'current' gen cars and only realeses(:S) the bandaged mules much closer to 'birth'? Or am i just thinking outside square as usual?

I'm not saying these aren't orion pics but i was thinking the same. Seems a little early for the camo mules

fou_bleu · 05-05-2007, 10:00 AM

oh soz ppls! i didn't mean that these weren't mules, i was just saying that's what they usually do!

HSE2 · 05-05-2007, 12:29 PM

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Not all that impressed with the fact they didnt flare the guards and widden its stance like the VE.

And thank god for that.

AussieJason · 05-05-2007, 12:36 PM

Overall I'm pretty happy with what I have seen so far of Orion , even though its not much.

I remember when I first saw the AU (or EA186 or whatever it was called then) shots with the grille etc still hidden, even with all the covering up I already knew something was seriously wrong.

No offence for the AU fans out there, and I appreciated where Ford were trying to go with the AU, but I knew it was too different for the time and it wouldnt work out. But with Orion, I can already see they are on the right track.

Incidently, anyone have those early AU photos ?

Gadgetman · 05-05-2007, 01:15 PM

Who cares??? Just wait to see these things for real. Not long now.

Road_Warrior · 05-05-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayden

Thats what they live for. But im sure some ford fans bagged the holden the second after they knew what it was.

I havent seen many bagging the car on LS1.com.au. No more so than here, anyway. It is only a mule afterall, and I am beginning to agree with other posters here in that these cars might be 'bitzas' made up of BA parts and Orion parts purely for testing.

Sledgehammer · 05-05-2007, 06:01 PM

It does look like its put on some weight again doesn't it?

Thunder · 05-05-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer

It does look like its put on some weight again doesn't it?

No, its just the baggy clothes

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dallasv8 · 05-05-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose10

Oh well, guess my hopes of them remaking the XA-XC are going to have to wait until the next next falcon :(

yea,retro coupe would definitely rock

Road_Warrior · 05-05-2007, 10:02 PM

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No, its just the baggy clothes

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SHE'S NOT FAT SHE'S JUST BIG BONED

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FalconXV · 06-05-2007, 02:35 AM

Rear lights appear to resemble current-gen Audi A6,with the profile (beltline, doorhandles) apeing a Yaris; and personally I like the Yaris.

AussieJason · 06-05-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer

It does look like its put on some weight again doesn't it?

I sure hope it hasn't. Ford Aus really needs to get fuel economy right this generation to win back some some of the market.

Ghiadude · 06-05-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieJason

I sure hope it hasn't. Ford Aus really needs to get fuel economy right this generation to win back some some of the market.

It already class leading in REAL WORLD conditions. they just dont advertise it. There wasa wheels/motor test recently and the worst performer from memory was the one that is perceived to have the best fuel economy hint... its the one that rhymes with toy motor delorean ....

Bossxr8 · 06-05-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HSE2

And thank god for that.

I'm just glad they didn't use flared arches that look as ridiculous as the ones on the VE. Orion is all class.

BadMac · 06-05-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I'm just glad they didn't use flared arches that look as ridiculous as the ones on the VE. Orion is all class.

So you can tell that from the spy shots. The flares look very similar to the VE ones, maybe slightly less, but until they are seen in an overall context its pretty hard to tell. Personally I think the VE flares look good, the problem is more that things like the bumpers don't intergrate into them well, hence it makes them look overdone. If they had used bumpers more like the M5 which extend out into the flares it would have looked very good.

Bossxr8 · 06-05-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BadMac

So you can tell that from the spy shots. The flares look very similar to the VE ones, maybe slightly less, but until they are seen in an overall context its pretty hard to tell. Personally I think the VE flares look good, the problem is more that things like the bumpers don't intergrate into them well, hence it makes them look overdone. If they had used bumpers more like the M5 which extend out into the flares it would have looked very good.

I've seen the real thing.

Airmon · 06-05-2007, 05:08 PM

Same Doorhandles that Holden and Mitsubishi are both using, they look bloody stupid, why is Ford wasting their time and following the trend?

daniel_rossy · 06-05-2007, 05:14 PM

does anyone want to do a photo-chop eg take padding of, change black to red ect? i would but im hopeless at it...

AussieJason · 06-05-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BadMac

Personally I think the VE flares look good, the problem is more that things like the bumpers don't intergrate into them well, hence it makes them look overdone. If they had used bumpers more like the M5 which extend out into the flares it would have looked very good.

Really ? I think the VE flares look awful, and was dreading that becoming a trend with Aussie cars. Hopefully the Orion is more refined in this area.

**Fordman1** · 06-05-2007, 06:14 PM

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Really ? I think the VE flares look awful, and was dreading that becoming a trend with Aussie cars. Hopefully the Orion is more refined in this area.

Yep Commodore's Wheels Arches look like a caricature. They are way out of proportion with the other styling cues in the car.

I'm sure the Falcon will be much better styled in that particular area.

Dr Smith · 06-05-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Airmon

Same Doorhandles that Holden and Mitsubishi are both using, they look bloody stupid, why is Ford wasting their time and following the trend?

...do you mean the trend that they first took with Territory back in '04 and developed 5 years earlier?

Falc'man · 06-05-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Barraxr8

Yep Commodore's Wheels Arches look like a caricature. They are way out of proportion with the other styling cues in the car.

I'm sure the Falcon will be much better styled in that particular area.

I'll second that. The VE's glasshouse/mid section is good looking. The front is too yesterday, and the rear looks like the back end of a fly.

Its good to hear the positive news from those who've seen the real thing.

shadows · 06-05-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Falc'man

I'll second that. The VE's glasshouse/mid section is good looking. The front is too yesterday, and the rear looks like the back end of a fly.

Its good to hear the positive news from those who've seen the real thing.

at least its not as ugly as a certain falcon from about ten years ago that looked like it was frowning.Hint Awfully Ugly

Citric GT · 06-05-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shadows

at least its not as ugly as a certain falcon from about ten years ago that looked like it was frowning.Hint Awfully Ugly

Road_Warrior · 06-05-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shadows

at least its not as ugly as a certain falcon from about ten years ago that looked like it was frowning.Hint Awfully Ugly

lol, cryptic clues.

The Stylist · 07-05-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Airmon

Same Doorhandles that Holden and Mitsubishi are both using, they look bloody stupid, why is Ford wasting their time and following the trend?

First things first, Ford are not wasting their time and secondly, it's hardly a new trend. Grab handles are easier to use than the older "lift up" variety, when jumping out of a Mondeo into a Falcon, you definately notice the awkardness of the old type of handles.

** (Note to self) "stop talking about doorhandles, people will think you're weird. They will also start calling you Colin for some reason"

mcnamg · 07-05-2007, 01:45 PM

The door handles are a European thing and thats what everyone is emulating its not ford compying holden and mitsubishi its them copying the europeans

XR8putts · 07-05-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I've seen the real thing.

Now that the spy shots are out, can you comment on the lack of LED's (and roofline stoplight), the similar stance to the BA/F and anything else discussed? These spypics do have me worried, I get the feeling Orion will be dated before it even before hits the showroom.

**Polyal** · 07-05-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by puts99

Now that the spy shots are out, can you comment on the lack of LED's (and roofline stoplight), the similar stance to the BA/F and anything else discussed? These spypics do have me worried, I get the feeling Orion will be dated before it even before hits the showroom.

Everyone needs to chill out and stop worrying. If they stuff up this then its just about game over.

It would be fair to say that Orion is even more important than the BA upgrade; it wont be stuffed up.

The only time we should be paying attention to spy shots is about ~6 months out from launch, when the cars will have to be representative. At the moment they could be anything.