Census 2016 - Page 5

LG17 · 11-08-2016, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Isn't this the first year where it's compulsory to,put your name down?

Normally names are kept on file for about 18 months. This time it was increased to up to 4 years.

I think it's been compulsory since the early 1900s.

TheSneakiness · 11-08-2016, 12:20 PM

With the amount of knowledge the government already has on you what did it honestly matter with security or privacy?

If anyone whinged about it the best question to ask would be do you have a smart phone and have Facebook Messenger and/or Pokemon Go installed? Cause FB and Niantic have then got complete access to your phone...

Trump · 11-08-2016, 12:32 PM

Fun fact, the census site is still dead.

Brodes · 11-08-2016, 12:52 PM

So the media tells us the ABS fully tested the website's servers prior to the date to find that they are more than capable to handle the demand, yet the demand they tested for we're told was only about 1 million logins per hour; did the ABS not conduct any research to find that the majority of the 24million Australian residents will have been logging on to complete their census at around just after dinner time which we all do at about the same time? No statistics on that one????

Blue Shadow · 11-08-2016, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Fun fact, the census site is still dead.

So what happens now if you couldn't do it on Tuesday, do we get extra time or do you think they will can this one ?

Blue Shadow · 11-08-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodes

So the media tells us the ABS fully tested the website's servers prior to the date to find that they are more than capable to handle the demand, yet the demand they tested for we're told was only about 1 million logins per hour; did the ABS not conduct any research to find that the majority of the 24million Australian residents will have been logging on to complete their census at around just after dinner time which we all do at about the same time? No statistics on that one????

Exactly, Most likely 5M in that hour alone, that would have killed it

snypereb · 11-08-2016, 05:44 PM

Thats what happens when you send millions of people to the same website at the same time. They crash.

This site was not hacked.

nstg8a · 11-08-2016, 08:10 PM

Dude on the project was slamming the whole thing. Claims the site never actually reached its full potential, it was complete mismanagement right from the word go.

.:4:. · 11-08-2016, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Dude on the project was slamming the whole thing. Claims the site never actually reached its full potential, it was complete mismanagement right from the word go.

Mismanagement, or government? Same same... kind of like "let's sell telstra"

LG17 · 11-08-2016, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Shadow

So what happens now if you couldn't do it on Tuesday, do we get extra time or do you think they will can this one ?

The option has been there all along.

prydey · 11-08-2016, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LG17

The option has been there all along.

it highlights how easy it is to whip the masses into a frenzy. rather than read the info for themselves they listen to all the misinformation in the media and react accordingly. the sky is falling, the sky is falling....

sr71 · 12-08-2016, 12:05 AM

Apparently no fines now, because of the hacking. Too many people are concerned about handing over name, DOB, address, income etc.... to the hackers.
Fail!

rst2000 · 12-08-2016, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sr71

Apparently no fines now, because of the hacking. Too many people are concerned about handing over name, DOB, address, income etc.... to the hackers.
Fail!

Where's the link?

nstg8a · 12-08-2016, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rst2000

Where's the link?

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showpos...&postcount=132

sr71 · 12-08-2016, 12:35 AM

"The ABS says people have until September 23 to fill in the online census and that those unable to do so will not be given a fine."
Taken from this article:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...ailure/7718584

sr71 · 12-08-2016, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showpos...&postcount=132

Also mentioned here ^^

LG17 · 12-08-2016, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sr71

"The ABS says people have until September 23 to fill in the online census and that those unable to do so will not be given a fine."
Taken from this article:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...ailure/7718584

Note that it says unable and not refuse.

No-one will be unable to fill it out as the option to receive an actual form is always there...

**DJR-351** · 12-08-2016, 07:47 AM

Interestingly the Minister for Defence Industry Christopher Pyne, just stated on 9's Today show, that "elements within Australia" disrupted the census.....

Clowns! they really have no idea................

Blue Shadow · 12-08-2016, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LG17

Note that it says unable and not refuse.

No-one will be unable to fill it out as the option to receive an actual form is always there...

Yep, they are good with words, that statement will head nick a lot of people

Franco Cozzo · 12-08-2016, 09:50 AM

If there ever was a case against online/electronic voting, this is a text book example.

LG17 · 12-08-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

If there ever was a case against online/electronic voting, this is a text book example.

If you think about it, online voting would probably be spread out over a longer period so it may be ok.

Trump · 12-08-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

Interestingly the Minister for Defence Industry Christopher Pyne, just stated on 9's Today show, that "elements within Australia" disrupted the census.....

Clowns! they really have no idea................

They know the how and the who, they just need to find a story they can stick to that appeases the masses and doesn't put those responsible in the poo poo. However, seeing as they've changed the story that many times, any credibility has evaporated.

cheap · 12-08-2016, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

Interestingly the Minister for Defence Industry Christopher Pyne, just stated on 9's Today show, that "elements within Australia" disrupted the census.....

Clowns! they really have no idea................

That seals the deal for me. Christopher Pyne arguable the most clueless minister in what is looking like the worst coalition government in history.

"Elements within Australia" = everyday Australian's trying to comply with the ABS's idiotic instructions asking us to simultaneously take the census on a system which it now appears was built woefully under capacity.

chamb0 · 12-08-2016, 12:30 PM

Maybe the "elements within Australia" comment referred to the sucessive Australian governments degrading the ABS's capacity and funding over recent years...

XB GS 351 Coupe · 12-08-2016, 12:39 PM

Romulus · 12-08-2016, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

Interestingly the Minister for Defence Industry Christopher Pyne, just stated on 9's Today show, that "elements within Australia" disrupted the census.....

Clowns! they really have no idea................

Absolutely.

To add insult to injury, there is an error with the paper forms. People have completed their forms, put them in the mail, only to find a few days later the forms have been mailed back to them! The way the return envelope is designed, and the instructions on how to place the census form in the envelope causes the household address where the form was mailed to to be the return address.

Government and bureaucratic incompetence at his highest. David Kalisch needs the sack. No un-elected bureaucrat should be paid the odd $700k he's on.

This debacle also serves to demonstrate the government does not have a revenue problem. It has an expenditure problems. It wastes hundreds of millions of dollars in staff and programs which are demonstrable failures.

Hippy · 12-08-2016, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hippy

well the gov , and ABS said it could not be hacked ...

they challenged the IT world ,,, guess what , it responded ..

-------or maybe it was just an inner site DOS attack , by so many trying to log in at once , to fulfill their Census duties , and they are blaming something else .

either way , it does show that it was a shambles ...

Yes our private details are safe eh..

imo ,, all this could have been avoided by NOT making name , and address mandatory ,,,,that is what got the populace of Aust angry .
and then stating that all is well and safe, that was the Challenge in itself.

IBM boss stated publically that it could be hacked ..

Whom do we believe ....

just saying it is what it is - calling a spade as a spade , so to speak ...

as i stated , Dos from .. Their own making ..

i wonder what system they had in place ,, err. IBM , yep good history in Aust... do some research..

me Dawg has his own Aust card , ID now ,,,...as per hand delivered paper at rural gate,,,[sent in]..only resident at the time ..

And i did submit my paper form .. via Hotel as over nite guest , no usual address . i travel a lot being retired....

cheap · 12-08-2016, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chamb0

Maybe the "elements within Australia" comment referred to the sucessive Australian governments degrading the ABS's capacity and funding over recent years...

Degrading and Funding Issues ? The head ABS muppet is on $700,000!!!!

I know a few million people who all wish they had his funding problem.

TheSneakiness · 12-08-2016, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus

To add insult to injury, there is an error with the paper forms. People have completed their forms, put them in the mail, only to find a few days later the forms have been mailed back to them! The way the return envelope is designed, and the instructions on how to place the census form in the envelope causes the household address where the form was mailed to to be the return address.

Oh ****... that's so funny. I'm checking my mailbox tonight.

Mercury Bullet · 12-08-2016, 03:30 PM

Haha yep.

I'll be keeping an eye on the front gate.
Problem is aus post are so slow now, I might be waiting for weeks.

Public service heads on $700k now? We sure do have a spending problem.
And people claim car workers/unions ruined the industry because of their unreasonable pay rates.