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Old 28-07-2009, 06:14 PM   #1
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What's happening at Sandown on Sunday?
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Old 28-07-2009, 07:32 PM   #3
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i will if it doesn't rain lol

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I'll be there..

Was planning on taking the work bommadore, but could bring the T out of mothballs if you were happy for me to join in

edit; and it's not raining.
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I'm going on Sunday regardless if we're displaying or not.

Tony(Elks), you're more than welcome to join us mate, just please don't take the bombadore...

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well , i feel sick at the announcement of 888 going to the other side , ive lost all interest in this
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well , i feel sick at the announcement of 888 going to the other side , ive lost all interest in this
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Well thats just fanfrickentastic! Only way I could feel better about it is if I was kicked in the nuts! Just awsome!! : : :
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Was thinking about it but not a chance now. I have zero interest in seeing the &%$#@ in those vodafone cars.
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As some of you guys are not trolls like i am - here is the news :-

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As long time supporters of Ford, we thought you should hear directly from us about today’s announcement that the Triple 8 race team and its drivers, including Craig Lowndes, will be racing Holdens next year. There is a lot of speculation and some negative commentary around about the decision so I’m giving you the facts.

Firstly, we sponsored Triple 8 to the tune of millions of dollars for a number of years. We honoured every single aspect of our sponsorship arrangement with them and in return, we asked for one thing – that they respect our brand by painting their cars blue. This wasn’t just a simple request, it was written into their contracts over a number of years – and each year Triple 8 chose to defy that contractual obligation and paint their cars red. That may seem relatively minor to you but it’s not to us. We’re running a business at Ford and investing millions of dollars in supporting motorsport. If someone continues to take large sums of money from us every year while continuing to blatantly defy the obligations they’ve agreed to in order to obtain that money, then we have no choice but to end that arrangement.

Make no mistake – Triple 8 was given every opportunity to live up to the contractual arrangements they agreed to. Eventually we said enough – as any responsible company would do. I make no apologies for doing that. It’s not just about the cars being painted blue, it’s about whether or not we have an open and trusting relationship with an organisation that significantly benefits from their involvement with us. That wasn’t there and, in the market environment we’ve been facing over the last few years, we simply cannot afford to continue giving money to a team that does not respect our brand.

Secondly, we are hugely disappointed that Craig Lowndes will be returning to Holden at the end of this year. We’re disappointed because he’s a great talent and we’re disappointed because we have gone out of our way to welcome Craig into the Ford family since he moved to us in 2001. We’re also disappointed because we found out this was happening on Tuesday evening. Our sponsorship of Craig has benefited him to the tune of millions of dollars since 2001 and I have yet to receive a phone call from Craig himself telling me of his decision to re-sign with Triple 8 and subsequently return to Holden. We had every intention of continuing our relationship with Craig into next year but this is now not possible.

We continue to support motorsport in Australia through our direct sponsorship of FPR and SBR and we also continue to provide significant in-kind support to other teams such as DJR. Motorsport continues to be a useful tool for us to communicate our brand promise to our customers. You can rest assured that we will continue to be involved in motorsport in Australia in the future and will do what we can to leverage our successes.

Thanks for your ongoing passion and interest in Ford.

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Old 30-07-2009, 01:34 PM   #12
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i will be there as per usual
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As long time supporters of Ford, we thought you should hear directly from us about today’s announcement that the Triple 8 race team and its drivers, including Craig Lowndes, will be racing Holdens next year. There is a lot of speculation and some negative commentary around about the decision so I’m giving you the facts.

Firstly, we sponsored Triple 8 to the tune of millions of dollars for a number of years. We honoured every single aspect of our sponsorship arrangement with them and in return, we asked for one thing – that they respect our brand by painting their cars blue. This wasn’t just a simple request, it was written into their contracts over a number of years – and each year Triple 8 chose to defy that contractual obligation and paint their cars red. That may seem relatively minor to you but it’s not to us. We’re running a business at Ford and investing millions of dollars in supporting motorsport. If someone continues to take large sums of money from us every year while continuing to blatantly defy the obligations they’ve agreed to in order to obtain that money, then we have no choice but to end that arrangement.

Make no mistake – Triple 8 was given every opportunity to live up to the contractual arrangements they agreed to. Eventually we said enough – as any responsible company would do. I make no apologies for doing that. It’s not just about the cars being painted blue, it’s about whether or not we have an open and trusting relationship with an organisation that significantly benefits from their involvement with us. That wasn’t there and, in the market environment we’ve been facing over the last few years, we simply cannot afford to continue giving money to a team that does not respect our brand.

Secondly, we are hugely disappointed that Craig Lowndes will be returning to Holden at the end of this year. We’re disappointed because he’s a great talent and we’re disappointed because we have gone out of our way to welcome Craig into the Ford family since he moved to us in 2001. We’re also disappointed because we found out this was happening on Tuesday evening. Our sponsorship of Craig has benefited him to the tune of millions of dollars since 2001 and I have yet to receive a phone call from Craig himself telling me of his decision to re-sign with Triple 8 and subsequently return to Holden. We had every intention of continuing our relationship with Craig into next year but this is now not possible.

We continue to support motorsport in Australia through our direct sponsorship of FPR and SBR and we also continue to provide significant in-kind support to other teams such as DJR. Motorsport continues to be a useful tool for us to communicate our brand promise to our customers. You can rest assured that we will continue to be involved in motorsport in Australia in the future and will do what we can to leverage our successes.

Thanks for your ongoing passion and interest in Ford.

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Hmmmmm! I can see their point BUT I'm pretty sure everyone, myself included knows that 888 were driving FORDS and I'm DAMB SURE that every HOLDEN supporter and Team affilliate NEW it aswell, no matter what colour the cars were!! They could of been PINK for F's sake, EVERYONE NEW they were still FORDS AND WINNING!!!! WHAT MORE RESPECT DO YOU WANT????????? DJR (dont get me wrong I love em) sure as poo aint BLUE cars. They are in there MAJOR SPONSORS COLOURS that look like Jimmy cans, VODAPHONE are 888's MAJOR SPONSOR and they just happen to be RED and SILVER. :
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Old 30-07-2009, 08:31 PM   #14
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Only one the FPR cars are Blue anyway and I believe Lowndes means more to Holden people then will ever mean to Ford people.

HRT cars are fluro orange.

The whole thing's a mess.
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Guys, this topic is being debated in the pits section.
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I pretty much lost most of my interest when Rick Kelly won the championship 2 years back. I think Ford had a pretty good reason to pull thier support, afterall we don't want them to go under like GM. However choosing which teams to continue to support based on thier sponsors colours is certainly the wrong way to do it, so I don't blame 888 to be upset about it. These days I'd much prefer to watch the racing from overseas than the V8's. There's just too much politics now and spoils the racing.

However if a few of you are gonna go together then I'll join ya just to check out the grid girls
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Old 31-07-2009, 05:11 PM   #17
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On Natalie Lowdnes facebook page, she goes that it was news to "US"
just wondering if 888 got the 2 drivers to re-sign, then pull this one ?????????
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can you still get ticketrs at the gate?
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Just tyring to confirm is there going to be a display or not. If so what time and where otherwise it's the bommadore in the car park.

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there is no club display for our club or the majority of clubs that were there last year.
there is a small display from the FPV & HSV clubs but under different conditions to what has been in the past.
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Only 8 FORDS running next season I hear. May as well not show up! V8 Super Holdens :

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Did anybody take any pics of the days events?
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Did anybody take any pics of the days events?
I got a few pics - mostly of Grid Girls ***'s lol

And I only noticed the XXXX Trailer Pub at the end of the day as it was at the end of the straight - got to see one show by the XXXX Gals - so so GOOD

Went on Sunday - Got in for free - watched the Start of the Race then went back to mates place and watched the rest of the race then came back to watch Jones and Moffat with last years T8 FORD cars
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I got a few pics - mostly of Grid Girls ***'s lol

And I only noticed the XXXX Trailer Pub at the end of the day as it was at the end of the straight - got to see one show by the XXXX Gals - so so GOOD

Went on Sunday - Got in for free - watched the Start of the Race then went back to mates place and watched the rest of the race then came back to watch Jones and Moffat with last years T8 FORD cars
Well at least you got the good ones first.
How was the Jones and Moffat show?
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Sonic is across the road from my mates workshop and I saw these cars just after they bought them from T8 in 12/2008

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This is all I got of the XXXX Gals - My Battery DIED :(




The Lions Den - opps a gal got in the way
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i didnt see any cars??
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i took some pics on saturday...

http://s481.photobucket.com/albums/r...r6turbo/V8SC09
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Thanks for the pics lads. Looks nothing like last year.
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