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Old 05-03-2019, 09:41 AM   #241
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Hi Brett,

Are you able to confirm the price for a full set of your coilovers for a BF sedan?

Are they regularly in stock or would I have to pre-order?

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Hey Sly_ba,
We normally keep quite good stock of the BA dampers for the sedan, but stock goes out the door daily.
The fully adjustable kit is $2200 plus delivery, depending on your location. Any other questions, feel free to ask mate.

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Old 17-08-2019, 08:21 AM   #242
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I fitted a set of XYZ coilovers front & rear on my BA.
Not impressed with them at all, they may be OK for track work but no matter what you read or hear they are not designed for rough Aussie streets. They bottom out on a regular basis even with the dampeners adjusted to their stiffest setting. The bearings in the top front strut mounts are absolute cheap rubbish and dry as a bone when you open the box. If you get XYZ, then make sure you grease the top bearings a little before you install, and even then they are still rough & clunk occasionally. Your probably better off getting them replaced with a decent Japanese brand bearing before you do the install, I wish I had done this.

If you want a little height then don't choose XYZ because they are only designed to drop your Falcon on its guts. Even when they are adjusted to their maximum limit in height they are still too low. The rears are almost useless on a BA and because they are designed to sit so low they either constantly ride on the bump stops or as in my case they sit about 10 mm off them. When you hit a bump the the suspension hits the bump stops and then roughly throws the car back up again. To get around this you have to have the adjustable spring perch extended to its limit & the shocks set at maximum stiffness. But then the ride is just so dam harsh that it's not an enjoyable experience at all. Must be a horrible ride when they are set real low on a Falcon.

Many think the the rear bump stops in a falcon are just there to stop bottoming out but they are designed to be part of the suspension and act as an addition to the springs so it is hard to get around this. Some cut them or get shortened ones but they need to be left how they are. Change them in any way and you will have lots of trouble & go through the rear bushes in twice the time.

Spend some extra money and get Tein, Bilstein or Koni, & you'll be glad you did because they can be set at a realistic height. Plus all of these three brands can be rebuilt quickly & easily, but you try getting XYZ's fully rebuilt in AUS. I'm not talking about just getting a clean & an oil refill ( you can do that yourself), I mean to replace seals , valves & everything. I wish you luck because if you do find someone with the parts it probably won't be close by, so you can expect some down time.
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Old 17-08-2019, 07:07 PM   #243
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Hi all, I'd like to lower the fg a bit and make it handle in bumpy corners better.
These coil over kits look better than just putting springs in at different length.
Must be a list of **** ones to the best ones somewhere?

Also im a bit confused as some of the standard travel limits 'end points' are due to shock length, so if the lowerd spring setup/standard shock length bottoms out all ball joints still only travel the same as intended from factory.... but if we lower the car with adjustable coil overs, by moving the lower mount up the body of the shock and the shock shaft can still travel full stroke the ball joints will travel higher than normal before bottom out?? If so can this cause ball joint damage?
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Old 19-08-2019, 04:10 PM   #244
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I fitted a set of XYZ coilovers front & rear on my BA.
Not impressed with them at all, they may be OK for track work but no matter what you read or hear they are not designed for rough Aussie streets. They bottom out on a regular basis even with the dampeners adjusted to their stiffest setting. The bearings in the top front strut mounts are absolute cheap rubbish and dry as a bone when you open the box. If you get XYZ, then make sure you grease the top bearings a little before you install, and even then they are still rough & clunk occasionally. Your probably better off getting them replaced with a decent Japanese brand bearing before you do the install, I wish I had done this.

If you want a little height then don't choose XYZ because they are only designed to drop your Falcon on its guts. Even when they are adjusted to their maximum limit in height they are still too low. The rears are almost useless on a BA and because they are designed to sit so low they either constantly ride on the bump stops or as in my case they sit about 10 mm off them. When you hit a bump the the suspension hits the bump stops and then roughly throws the car back up again. To get around this you have to have the adjustable spring perch extended to its limit & the shocks set at maximum stiffness. But then the ride is just so dam harsh that it's not an enjoyable experience at all. Must be a horrible ride when they are set real low on a Falcon.

Many think the the rear bump stops in a falcon are just there to stop bottoming out but they are designed to be part of the suspension and act as an addition to the springs so it is hard to get around this. Some cut them or get shortened ones but they need to be left how they are. Change them in any way and you will have lots of trouble & go through the rear bushes in twice the time.

Spend some extra money and get Tein, Bilstein or Koni, & you'll be glad you did because they can be set at a realistic height. Plus all of these three brands can be rebuilt quickly & easily, but you try getting XYZ's fully rebuilt in AUS. I'm not talking about just getting a clean & an oil refill ( you can do that yourself), I mean to replace seals , valves & everything. I wish you luck because if you do find someone with the parts it probably won't be close by, so you can expect some down time.
Hey BongoKongo,

We have now replaced many XYZ dampers as the travel is just so short. Just a note about the top bearing, If you grease the bearing, it will atract alot of dust and will damage the bearing over time as the grit will get inside the bearing. Our bearings are teflon lined with very high brake away, so no grease required.
We also offer full service and now starting to get the Shockworks Ford dampers back after 100,000Km's and still in great condition. We charge $120 per damper for a full rebuild. We have also introduced our new adjustment system into the Ford dampers, which almost doubles the previous adjustment range and can be updated with exsiting dampers from years ago.
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Old 19-08-2019, 04:21 PM   #245
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Hi.
Anyone selling them in NZ?

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Hey BongoKongo,

We have now replaced many XYZ dampers as the travel is just so short. Just a note about the top bearing, If you grease the bearing, it will atract alot of dust and will damage the bearing over time as the grit will get inside the bearing. Our bearings are teflon lined with very high brake away, so no grease required.
We also offer full service and now starting to get the Shockworks Ford dampers back after 100,000Km's and still in great condition. We charge $120 per damper for a full rebuild. We have also introduced our new adjustment system into the Ford dampers, which almost doubles the previous adjustment range and can be updated with exsiting dampers from years ago.
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Old 19-08-2019, 04:23 PM   #246
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Hi.
Anyone selling them in NZ?
Hey Krisl,

Unfortunatley not. I wish we had a dealer In NZ mate:-(
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Old 20-08-2019, 06:41 PM   #247
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Hey BongoKongo,

We have now replaced many XYZ dampers as the travel is just so short. Just a note about the top bearing, If you grease the bearing, it will atract alot of dust and will damage the bearing over time as the grit will get inside the bearing. Our bearings are teflon lined with very high brake away, so no grease required.
After owning a set I can understand why you would be replacing many XYZ's.
Also I understand about the dirt in the bearings caused by greasing, but I'm OK with that because soon as these give up the Ghost they are going in the bin. The quicker they wear out the better. I have both front & rears set at their maximum height and almost maximum stiffness on the dampers. If I set them any other way I bottom out on anything bigger than a tennis ball.

I really like the feel of Tein, but I will give you a call when that time arises & see what you can do for me concerning replacements.
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Old 21-08-2019, 09:47 AM   #248
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After owning a set I can understand why you would be replacing many XYZ's.
Also I understand about the dirt in the bearings caused by greasing, but I'm OK with that because soon as these give up the Ghost they are going in the bin. The quicker they wear out the better. I have both front & rears set at their maximum height and almost maximum stiffness on the dampers. If I set them any other way I bottom out on anything bigger than a tennis ball.

I really like the feel of Tein, but I will give you a call when that time arises & see what you can do for me concerning replacements.
Hey BongoKongo,
Look forward to hearing from you and if in Melbourne, can take you for a drive in our Ford test car mate:-)
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Old 22-08-2019, 12:15 PM   #249
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Brett any updates for anyone who can update or service the Shockworks up here in Brisbane? Mine has ticked over 100,000km's and would be keen on a service or update with the damper adjustments if you have someone.
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Old 22-08-2019, 02:27 PM   #250
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Brett any updates for anyone who can update or service the Shockworks up here in Brisbane? Mine has ticked over 100,000km's and would be keen on a service or update with the damper adjustments if you have someone.
Hey Marcyeo,
At this stage we are the only people who can service the dampers, as we are only now starting to get dampers back for service after 100,000Km's. We would need to fit out a place with all the gassing gear and parts as well as months of training, so can't be justified at the moment mate.
We have to perform some precision machining as well to modify the rods to suit the new adjustment system, so we much prefer to keep this in house for quality reasons.
We can have serviced dampers turned around in 2 days though:-)
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