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Old 28-04-2019, 09:34 PM   #1
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An interesting read....

  • In 2017, Mustang sold 81,866 for 26% market share; Camaro sold 67,940 for 22%; Challenger sold 64,537 for 21%.

  • In 2018, Mustang sold 75,842 for 28% of market share; Challenger sold 66,716 for 24%; Camaro sold 50,963 for 19%.

  • In first quarter 2019, Mustang sold 16,917 for 29% of market; Challenger sold 13,431 for 23%; Camaro sold 12,083 for 21%.

Dodge Challenger ousts Chevy Camaro as No. 2 sports car
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Old 29-04-2019, 01:27 AM   #2
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I’ve always wanted to clarify something; are those Mustang numbers US domestic sales numbers only? Or do they include all exported cars too?
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Iíve always wanted to clarify something; are those Mustang numbers US domestic sales numbers only? Or do they include all exported cars too?
Those numbers would be for the US. Pretty sure the global Mustang sales are well over 100,000
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Camaro isn't very popular. The previous model sold better.

A lot of people hate the vision out. Like looking out of a letterbox.
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I do prefer the Challenger, but i could certainly live with a new "Bandit" in the driveway



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When are they ever going to release a factory RHD Charger and or Challenger in this country?
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When are they ever going to release a factory RHD Charger and or Challenger in this country?
I doubt they ever will.
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When are they ever going to release a factory RHD Charger and or Challenger in this country?
Not any time soon I'm guessing -

But people paid 180 to 200k for a 2014+ Hellcat.

The last HSV, or woteva it was called cost close to that...

For a little over 200k (220k) in the states you could get a Viper ACR and a Demon...

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Old 30-04-2019, 12:30 PM   #10
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When are they ever going to release a factory RHD Charger and or Challenger in this country?
Never. The numbers don't stack up. Never have. If Holden can't get the numbers to stack up on factory RHD Camaro's then FCA have no chance of getting it to work on their lesser appealling cars. Way more GM fan boi's vs Mopar lovers.
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When are they ever going to release a factory RHD Charger and or Challenger in this country?
The Australian team have been trying to for a few years but the numbers simply don't add up. Even factory supported conversions cannot be justified.
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Dodge Challenger's have so many variants so that is probably why it sells well just like the BA Falcons when they were released.

Dodge Hellcat in Aus converted to RHD is $270,000
Dodge Demon in Aus converted to RHD is $350,000
The last ever Dodge Demon made build number 3,300 in Aus converted to RHD is $450,000
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The challenger is a great looking vehicle, pity about the cost/economics.
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Dodge Hellcat in Aus converted to RHD is $270,000
Dodge Demon in Aus converted to RHD is $350,000
The last ever Dodge Demon made build number 3,300 in Aus converted to RHD is $450,000
We are lucky to live in Australia... Look what some people in other countries have to pay to get a second hand factory RHD Mustang GT convertible.

Imagine the cost of a Hellcat converted to RHD in Sri Lanka.

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im not sure where SORTED got those costings from , my research suggests all those varients are about 100,000 dollars less than his supplier - in RHD .
still more than expensive for the average expensive bloke
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My midlife crisis car would be a Challenger R/T Scatpack in F8 green.

Unfortunately they'd probably have to confirm to Australian standards if they ever did start selling them.
Available in white or silver, you know, for resale value.
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Well, the hurt continues for Camaro Vs Challenger in April Sales but,
look closely and you'll see a very different story being played out..

1. Mustang is clawing back an early decline in sales
2. Camaro April sales are much better than 2018 and YTD improving
3. It's actually Challenger that's crashing and burning big time this year

Model.............April '19........April '18.................4 Months '19........4 Months '18
Mustang...........8,020...........7,125 (12.6%).........24,937...............26,289 (-5.1%)
Camaro............4,205...........3,308 (25.6%).........16,288...............15,140 (7.6%)
Challenger........4,492...........5,822 (-24.9%)........17,853...............23,540 (-24.2%)

Bottom line, Year to date:
Mustang YTD down slightly - 1,352 sales but April sales improved by 895.

Camaro YTD Up slightly +1,148 sales and April sales improved by 897.

Challenger sales down -5,687 sales with another hit in April of 1,330.

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When was the last time Challenger had a decent facelift/upgrade? Seems like it's been pretty much the same thing for a decade.
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I think they're afraid to stray too much from the existing Retro formula.
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When was the last time Challenger had a decent facelift/upgrade? Seems like it's been pretty much the same thing for a decade.
Current generation 2008 - Present, with a facelift in 2015.
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They could perhaps do a RHD conversion through HSV but probably never be factory and very expensive. Hasn't stopped them selling but could have heaps more.

I've seen a Camaro, Bullitt Mustang, F150 Raptor SVT (was really surprised about this one), Dodge Ram and a Silverado this week alone in Canberra. So definitely an appetite for these cars.
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Chevrolet have facelifted the camaro...

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Current generation 2008 - Present, with a facelift in 2015.
That's a long run.
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Challenger is the toughest looking car
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