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Old 17-12-2011, 09:10 PM   #1
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What do you think?
I bloody hope we do soon im hearing of to many victims :(
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Old 17-12-2011, 09:18 PM   #2
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Broad question, but in short; Yes we will.
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I bloody hope we do soon im hearing of to many victims :(
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Old 17-12-2011, 10:35 PM   #4
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I think so. Maybe towards the end of our lifetimes; it is a disease that has afflicted humanity for its entire existence; however modern medicine and science has only just started to unravel the secrets of cancer and there is a lot of misunderstanding and just plain wrong info out there about it that needs to be reconciled first.

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I guess some may not answer this question as it's too painfully close to home..
Will we ever beat cancer?
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probably, whether they do it before some silly bugger presses the big nuke button, of that i`m not so sure of .
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I hope so. Would love for my aunt and uncle on my mothers side to beat it.
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Some forms of cancer are already getting beaten, especially when detected early. Some forms still need more research to beat them fully.

So yes, long run they all will be beaten.
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I sure hope so. Lost my dad this year to it.
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I believe we will and at the risk of sounding conspiratorial I also believe we could have already except for the multi billion dollar industry in treatments not really wanting a cure found , they will fund any number of treatment based research projects but not research to find a cure .
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I believe we will and at the risk of sounding conspiratorial I also believe we could have already except for the multi billion dollar industry in treatments not really wanting a cure found , they will fund any number of treatment based research projects but not research to find a cure .
spot on. if the pharmacuticals really wanted a cure we'd be there by now. pres nixon declared war on cancer in the sixties and spent a ***** load on funding for a cure. just look at how far weve come in electronics, travel, vehicle design,comfort, safety and economy. vitually all facets of life have gone forward in leaps and bounds.but the big c seems to march on unabated!
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My pop got prostate cancer 6 years ago and has aquired 3 other secondary cancers as well.In the last two years he has been given 3 lots of you have "months to live" from the doctors.

Today his prostate count is down to 2 or 3 and two of the other secondary cancers have been beaten.He didnt stop working untill 2.5 years after diagnosis.

I remember when the doc said he needs to take up a hobby or something.He replied with"I am working 40hours a week and my hobby is having a punt".

I hope I inherited his fighting attributes
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Cars could run on water if we really wanted but guess who shot that down, I believe its the same with cancer. Eradicating it would probably bring in alot less $$$ than having it linger. And it's far from a conspiracy, we all know the mighty dollar (or more so the greed for it) controls everything
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Cars could run on water if we really wanted but guess who shot that down, I believe its the same with cancer. Eradicating it would probably bring in alot less $$$ than having it linger. And it's far from a conspiracy, we all know the mighty dollar (or more so the greed for it) controls everything
Sad to say it though I think you are 100% correct ea90gl, and perhaps I will be criticised for my answer.
It is more profitable for the pharmaceutical companies to have a drug that can help ease the pain and prolong the life of the suffer, than that of one that cures the patient altogether (once cured the purchase of a drug is no longer needed). If the big C was not of a profit issue but a humane one then I believe that it would be already cured. With today’s technology in the fields genealogy, microbiology and genetics much could be achieved as a cure for many things, but alas once again corporate greed dominates over humanity itself and as long as a dollar can be made from the pain and suffering of others a cure will never be made (or should I say never be released to the populous).
Fluorination in water is another financial gain over necessity but I will leave that for another debate.

Humanity’s sever lack of compassion over greed amazes me still to this day.

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Hopefully. The sooner the better. I really need to get around to donating some money towards some sort of cancer research soon.
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Sad to say it though I think you are 100% correct ea90gl, and perhaps I will be criticised for my answer.
It is more profitable for the pharmaceutical companies to have a drug that can help ease the pain and prolong the life of the suffer, than that of one that cures the patient altogether (once cured the purchase of a drug is no longer needed). If the big C was not of a profit issue but a humane one then I believe that it would be already cured. With today’s technology in the fields genealogy, microbiology and genetics much could be achieved as a cure for many things, but alas once again corporate greed dominates over humanity itself and as long as a dollar can be made from the pain and suffering of others a cure will never be made (or should I say never be released to the populous).
Fluorination in water is another financial gain over necessity but I will leave that for another debate.

Humanity’s sever lack of compassion over greed amazes me still to this day.

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Sad to say it though I think you are 100% correct ea90gl, and perhaps I will be criticised for my answer.
It is more profitable for the pharmaceutical companies to have a drug that can help ease the pain and prolong the life of the suffer, than that of one that cures the patient altogether (once cured the purchase of a drug is no longer needed). If the big C was not of a profit issue but a humane one then I believe that it would be already cured. With today’s technology in the fields genealogy, microbiology and genetics much could be achieved as a cure for many things, but alas once again corporate greed dominates over humanity itself and as long as a dollar can be made from the pain and suffering of others a cure will never be made (or should I say never be released to the populous).
Fluorination in water is another financial gain over necessity but I will leave that for another debate.

Humanity’s sever lack of compassion over greed amazes me still to this day.

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*SIGH*....Thats what i reckon. Sad that man is so greedy.
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I just don't get how we can do this and do that but we can't stop certain cells from multiplying?
Stupid!!!!!!!!
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i wish they would a very close friend of mine who i work with and have for the last 20 years is about too die of cancer and only has a few weeks too live man cancer is bad my mom also has had a foot of her bowl removed too cancer it seams the good ones always die first (could explained why i am till around )
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I will be criticised for my answer.
It is more profitable for the pharmaceutical companies to have a drug that can help ease the pain and prolong the life of the suffer, than that of one that cures the patient altogether (once cured the purchase of a drug is no longer needed). If the big C was not of a profit issue but a humane one then I believe that it would be already cured. With today’s technology in the fields genealogy, microbiology and genetics much could be achieved as a cure for many things, but alas once again corporate greed dominates over humanity itself and as long as a dollar can be made from the pain and suffering of others a cure will never be made (or should I say never be released to the populous).
Fluorination in water is another financial gain over necessity but I will leave that for another debate.

Humanity’s sever lack of compassion over greed amazes me still to this day.

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No.. I will not criticise you, because that is 100% the truth. Without saying too much, a family member works in, let's just say.. Antineoplastics, and the money involved is truly astonishing. Billions in profits. The governments also get a cut of the profits, in one way or another (). Too much money (read.. GREED) involved for a cure to be found.

So to answer the OP's question. NO! a cure for ALL cancers will not be allowed to be found.
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No. (and before anyone snaps, I lost my dad to cancer 7 years ago. It's a horrendous disease and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy).

The fact is that the way our cells replicate leaves itself open for mistakes - mutations are the force of change. And uncontrolable replication is happening constantly within us. It's just that our bodies can usually shut it off early.

It's a horrible thought, but it's just not natural to stop this process. And as we get better with diagnosis we are uncovering more cancers. And as we expose our bodies to more and more unnatural elements and chemicals, it's inevitable we will develop more cancers.

I wish we could eliminate all disease, but that would be disturbing the natural balance. We do that enough already. It's a sad fact of life and something I wish we could get rid of, but I just don't think humans can beat mother nature... if we ever did it would be dangerous.
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I'll disagree with Andrew and say, we will find a cure eventually, but too late for so many good people.

Dad was diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer last week. The doctors haven't given him a good prognosis.
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I am glad I am not the only cynical person here that thinks there has always been a cure for cancer. But due to profitability of the pharmaceutical companies, they won't let you get it unless you are willing to spend a shedload of cash to someone. It's not in 'their' best interests to remove the hand that feeds them. They want to keep you alive long enough to continue spending money on their drugs.
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Yes one day, but no one with cancer today will benifit, sad to say.
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Dad was diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer last week. The doctors haven't given him a good prognosis.
Damn I am really sorry to hear that.
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No. (and before anyone snaps, I lost my dad to cancer 7 years ago. It's a horrendous disease and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy).

The fact is that the way our cells replicate leaves itself open for mistakes - mutations are the force of change. And uncontrolable replication is happening constantly within us. It's just that our bodies can usually shut it off early.

It's a horrible thought, but it's just not natural to stop this process. And as we get better with diagnosis we are uncovering more cancers. And as we expose our bodies to more and more unnatural elements and chemicals, it's inevitable we will develop more cancers.

I wish we could eliminate all disease, but that would be disturbing the natural balance. We do that enough already. It's a sad fact of life and something I wish we could get rid of, but I just don't think humans can beat mother nature... if we ever did it would be dangerous.
Exactly what I was going to write basically..
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i bloody hope so. i think im a sure thing for it
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I lost my favourite aunt to that abominable disease this year.

I'm going to have to disagree with the conspiracy theorists on this one. As a scientist, I know of some excellent groups working on the problem of cancer, particularly early cancer detection. A particular group on Germany has found that cancer cells, irrespective of what they are have a distinctly lower Young's Modulus than any healthy cells. A mouth swab and stress-strain testing of the cells has already lead to a 90+% detection rate in clinical trials.
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